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mircea_popescu: Sep 19 04:43:50 <mircea_popescu>anyway, since i'm stuck guessing : your link probably onyl counts mtgoxusd.
mircea_popescu: see, according to this graph mtgox for today is at 36^
mircea_popescu: i'm trying to compare things here so as to see how the two items rate.
mircea_popescu: the same thing as what you used for the 8th of aug or w/e it was
mircea_popescu: anyway, can you see what % mtgox has on bitcoinity for today ?
mircea_popescu: i mean this is the internet. what else are people to do ?
mircea_popescu: i somehow doubt a bet with 100 btc riding on it literally had nobody giving a shit.
mircea_popescu: looky here : out of the three contentious bets so far, the two most problematic ones were the ones which actually were quite provable
mircea_popescu: well yes but entirely different tihngs these. european vs american options.
mircea_popescu: i mean... on one hand forbidding bets of the sort seems strange, as the people aren't obliged to bet on it.
mircea_popescu: well that's why those links are in there (bet judged by X source). so these sorts of disputes can be dispatched.
mircea_popescu: and if indeed that's the case then we definitely have a problem with the daily averaged bitcoinity data.
mircea_popescu: now, the only way mtgox has 49% is if these are averages for the past 30 days.
mircea_popescu: { label: "mtgoxUSD", data: 37}, { label: "mtgoxEUR", data: 6}, { label: "mtgoxJPY", data: 3}, { label: "mtgoxGBP", data: 1}, { label: "mtgoxCAD", data: 1}, { label: "mtgoxAUD", data: 1},
mircea_popescu: no, what i mean is, bitcoincharts currently shows mtgox as
mircea_popescu: i think some small RSS icons next to resolved and closed topics would prolly be useful.
mircea_popescu: <Kleeck__> What a perfect position you've created for yourself MP. << this happens to be how business works, incidentally. you do a narrowly defined, specified thing. you never do "everything", ie, unbounded obligations.
mircea_popescu: currently bitbet retains no user info of any kind. there is value in this model.
mircea_popescu: also, bitcoinity is doing daily averages, but it seems to me bitcoincharts is doing 30 day averages.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves srsly, what have you been waiting for ?!
mircea_popescu: alternatively, you could maybe bug tactm (the owner) to check.
mircea_popescu: hey, do the graphs get constructed out of the request somehow ?
mircea_popescu: i'd have been surprised if this thing was amenable to some sort of resolution ;/
mircea_popescu: unless tactm changed how bitcoincharts operates since the bet was made.
mircea_popescu: anyway, decisions that conflict with reality aren't at issue here. reality isn't what you feel it is, it's what you can prove it is.
mircea_popescu: teaching people how to work in an actually structured system, rather than floating in this internet vague.
mircea_popescu: that;'s the point, and that's a giood half of the value and utility of bitbet to the community.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, users are welcome to bring their cases before the supreme tribunal \which is bitbet.
mircea_popescu: and emphatically that putative authority isn't any user.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves pretty much. bitbet is the authority. there's not some other authority to which bitbet submits facts
mircea_popescu: it's economically unfeasible to require bitbet to permanently maintain records of everything. it's also kinda against the entire concept of bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i would, cause it'd create untenable precedent.
mircea_popescu: Kleeck__ no but it's not practical to have bitbet store details in any degree of detail permanently.
mircea_popescu: this is like going "o, the court should show me". dude... you got a case, show your case. you don't got no case... that's what it is.
mircea_popescu: that's the story here : bitbet enacts reality. that's all i do to show you : point to the bitbet decision.
mircea_popescu: you know, any of the interested partioes going "HEY! This bet is won!"
mircea_popescu: anyway. all this would have been way more useful sometime around august the 8th
mircea_popescu: i find it suspicious mtgox is one single thing, and i find it suspicious that thing is 2 digit precise.
mircea_popescu: Ukyo it's true, but it's also damned hard to distinguish who's serious etc. gotta pick some sort of a fixed criterion.
mircea_popescu: mtgoxUSD, bitstampUSD, btcnCNY, btceUSD, mtgoxEUR, mtgoxJPY, btcdeEUR, cbxUSD, mtgoxGBP, mtgoxCAD, bitcurexPLN, btceRUR, virtexCAD, mtgoxAUD, virwoxSLL
mircea_popescu: on some substitute source wherein a lot of other exchanges were counted.
mircea_popescu: which is why your substitute source is no good : it includes more things.
mircea_popescu: if you're half of your household including more girlfriends makes you more or less a % ?
mircea_popescu: well now we know for a fact it's not good : the bitcoincharts site doesn't include this bit2c thing
mircea_popescu: but does that actually correctly include the same thing as the bitcoincharts includes.