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BingoBoingo: Typical rates listed on the whoring portals are 1000-3000 pesos (30-100 USD) hourly. In practice...
mircea_popescu: like fucking children exactly, "the precarious chair tower seemed solid to me on the basis of it standing, why did it fall over ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: wtf, and these tards are actually lawyers now ?
mircea_popescu: "Cuando ejecutás un vale la ley prevé una serie de mecanismos de defensa, entre esos mecanismos de defensa no está el que vos ingreses a analizar el negocio que dio origen al vale. El vale es una forma de pago, es un documento de crédito, es como que emitas un cheque. El juez de la ejecución no tiene autorizado entrar a analizar el negocio que dio origen al cheque", explic
BingoBoingo: 33 to the dollar
mircea_popescu: when the fuck's a whore in that shithole made 10k, let alone 100k. or what is the peso, 8 to the dollar or so ?
mircea_popescu: im sure she has a contract afore the fact, too, listing the price.
BingoBoingo: You know, the sort of thought patterns that drive prison lawyers incapable of keeping themselves out of prison
mircea_popescu: "Este miércoles, Salle dijo a Montevideo Portal que el vale "fue un arrendamiento de servicio por actos sexuales y orgiásticos" y que el juez debe fijarse si el pagaré cumple con todos los requisitos y no en otros asuntos."
BingoBoingo: Her cause can be reduced to that unyielding socialist faith. "It imagined it working, why isn't it?" ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought 'possession is 9/10th of the law'(tm) lol
asciilifeform: ematician. But I always get the right answers, you see."'
asciilifeform: '"Yes, I know," said the little technician earnestly, "but I start by saying seven times three because that's the way it works. Now seven times three is twenty-one." "And how do you know that?" asked the congressman. "I just remember it. It's always twenty-one on the computer. I've checked it any number of times." "That doesn't mean it always will be, though, does it?" said the congressman. "Maybe not," stammered Aub. "I'm not a math
mircea_popescu: gifts from the hand, in civil law, that aren't in possession aren't title.
asciilifeform: !#s the feeling of power
mircea_popescu: now all it takes is it actually being taught.
asciilifeform: afaik it's teachable like any other mechanical trick
mircea_popescu: i don't even mean radicals, or fast calculations of things like 149 * 16 as "well, 24 minus a unit"
mircea_popescu: ok, but i mean... so it's a notation, what. i'd settle for any manner of teaching kids headarithmetic ; i've yet to meet any female of enslavement age who can actually do it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik lehrer was laffing at the notion that 'new notation will cure all'
mircea_popescu: maybe it's just me being jewish or w/e, but honestly, so what if "that 1 in the 10s is really 10 ones, and if it were in the 64s it'd really be 8 8s" ?
mircea_popescu: fwiw, since it was mentioned : i don't see what's so scandalous with the "new arithmetic" whereby one explicits the powers rather than whatever historical approach.
asciilifeform: i.e. all electrically-permitted inputs map onto a permitted 2 .. n - 1 , and those who fit into the range to begin with, map directly ( others map via modular reduction )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, for instance, proceeding through analogy with what with did to the e's, "must be this many bits"
asciilifeform: ( observe what asciilifeform's m-r does with the witness input )
asciilifeform: i can't think of any reason to constrict the witness pool any further than m-r per se constrains it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, point being, can't just take the 2nd half. yes, start at 2.
mircea_popescu: the other useful rtidbit that came out of this, you came up with : new tmsr.ent element, which yes should be done.
mircea_popescu: the only practically useful tidbit i have is "according to math arcana, witnesses absolutely must come from 1, 2^n rather than 2^n-1, 2^n ; notwithstanding the latter might look "thicker"
asciilifeform: before thread exhausts its fuel, asciilifeform would like to hear whether mircea_popescu has actionable 'nah do it like ~so~' for m-r, or only the 'memento mori'
mircea_popescu is quite tickled that the ready reference of the issue is titled things with squares and morals and pornos. considering the context in which i needed it lo SIX years later...
a111: Logged on 2019-03-28 14:39 mircea_popescu: atm i am unaware how one would answer this ; but if any brins are in the audience by all means, even an unsuccessful ~meaningful~ attempt at tackling this question of our times is liable to make new math.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that much is true, and yes, this 2nd link you unearth is also very likely (at least as far as i know) true : can't have at the same time what we discuss here and http://trilema.com/2013/squares-do-morals-a-porno/#selection-475.0-475.334 ; therefore i said http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905411 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ~this~ subthread i must leave to mircea_popescu ( i haven't with what to disagree )
mircea_popescu: therefore, the previous class of specialist egg layers are now repurposed into a doubling of the food searcher contingent.
mircea_popescu: and, lest the "women's rights an' freedoms" morons get irritated -- no, the "not anymore" re marriage and the outlay above is not some kind of "progress". it is the simple economical result of the value of new children reaching ~0 and the probability of success also reaching ~0 : thus
asciilifeform: ( also ougta add, that if extended riemann is troo , then the supposition that 'for erry finite set of witnesses, can produce a p for which they all lie' is not , and the rng component of m-r would then be redherring )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, depends if you look from inside or from outside. from outside, kim is quite the perfect model.
asciilifeform: i.e. '"That dial hasn't moved yet, has it?" Edwardson asked, over the clamor of the Detector alarm bell. "Not a waffle." Cassel said reassuringly, looking at the dial with its indicator slamming back and forth against the stoppers either way.'
mircea_popescu: "of all the merchants there lie within this generation of 12 yo boys, 3/4 will die before being rich" "i intend to marry one of the rest. or three."
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness, will add that http://trilema.com/2014/the-hour-of-reckoning/ is possibly moar pertinent to the orig q than 'resplenduminous'
mircea_popescu: what is a rich merchant but a false witness to the truth of the dangers of voyage and risks of merchantry ?
mircea_popescu: the whole human race (and not exceptionally, most mammals also) is, essentialyl, an exercise in the exploitation of liar distribution like here discussed
asciilifeform: i'd be lying if i said that i knew how to connect this to the orig puzzler.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-28 16:02 asciilifeform: oook even with tea i cannot digest it. mircea_popescu's gedankendevice requires http://trilema.com/2017/resplenduminous/ .
mircea_popescu: the overarching point here is that merely http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905503 is very little argument -- the whore discussed is superlatively feminine, and as a factual matter the human species exists as extant because the females employ the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905562 item, specifically as "let's all you schmoes go to war, and [http://trilema.com/2017/the-perennial-harriette-wilson/#selection-111.0-111 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: upstack, to 'exploiting the winners is +ev strat' , this is entirely troo, for so long as you know how to eat'em without becoming infected with whatever made'em fat to begin with
asciilifeform: at least it wasn't the old 'cockroach inside , ticks' item.
asciilifeform: already guessed what was the trick ?
asciilifeform: before taking off , decided to buy sumthing from the carpet men, and bought a pocket watch. appeared to be keeping correct time, spiffy-looking '20s german thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: asciilifeform oughta confess how he was duped in buenos aires , it is pertinent to thread
mircea_popescu: yes, but i happen to have whole blog documenting the daughter strategy, hence eg http://trilema.com/2009/chiar-nu-ma-agita-chestiunea/#selection-69.105-69.754
asciilifeform: i.e. 'stopped clock is right 1ce a day' but is still a broken clock, even if at that moment in day it is not distinguishable with naked eye from working
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu amply documented this for the btc lotterists , for instance
asciilifeform: historically, by sharp stick. at least in the case of what's ordinarily called lottery. cuz winning dun banish from the head the cockroaches that made'em play to begin with ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: principally, by the daughters.
asciilifeform: record appears to show that the winners, too , fucked
mircea_popescu: from the fact that "it is improductive, economically, to play the lottery" it does NOT follow that "it is a bad strategy, my daughter, to marry the winners"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, all lottery players except the winner are fucked in the head.
mircea_popescu: this is proven by the fact that when you go to p-numbers shop and get numbers, what you get are... numbers.
asciilifeform: the notion does however follow, that lottery players are fucked in the head ( or is this also nao reopened case ..? )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, "uniform distributions" are not guaranteed to be what you get. when you go to milk shop and order milk, you get milk on the strength of ~human industry~, NOT on the strength of "the meanings of abstracts".
mircea_popescu: from "numbers on the interval 1, n have property p with probability 3/4"it does NOT follow that "these five numbers i picked contain 3.75 numbers wirth property p"
asciilifeform: so the latter ? 'bahaha you think uniform distributions exist' ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it's not a puzzler ; it all reduces to the downstream implications of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905437 ☝︎
asciilifeform: so is the puzzler actually about m-r , or about whether notion of probability is physical ?
asciilifeform: rright, which is why he is in this play , notion is that he'd like you to continue to think that you have a working process with given characteristic, whereas in fact quite different
mircea_popescu: and ~this~ is the core of my argument -- not that probability of 1, nor that "forever". merely that for the one spot you happen to look at.
mircea_popescu: devil cares about the thought of man. which is neither.
mircea_popescu: devil dun' care about probability 1, or about "infinitely long trials".
mircea_popescu: if we were even close to space saturation, itr wouldn't be called crypto, it'd be called social security numbers.
mircea_popescu: yes, in theory. in practice, you have a finite set out of a necessarily large space -- as part and parcel of what cryptography IS.
asciilifeform: these are drawn from 1/4 of the phase space.
asciilifeform: if he wants you to fail with prob=1 , then he gotta give you a false witness each time.
asciilifeform: who said '0%' tho. you have an arbitrarily long string of queries to devil
mircea_popescu: you can not, on the basis of a 0% sample, to say anything avbout how the sample fits in the 100% it came from.
mircea_popescu: understand : there are no less than 2^4096 numbers in 4096 bits. if you take say 32 numbers out of this, that is, 2^5, you have thereby avoided 2^4091 numbers from the original set, which is to say, 100% to any practical apperoximation.
asciilifeform: so does mircea_popescu reject the 'for ~any~ given composite, 3/4 of integers are m-r witnesses' item ?
asciilifeform: cuz 'avoids 3/4 of space' is equiv to , e.g., rng that never produces string '00', '01', '10' for any 2 bits of output
a111: Logged on 2019-03-28 15:21 mircea_popescu: i'm willing to bet "entropy is improved" 50% of the time.
asciilifeform: nao the q becomes, you later look at what came out of the wire. is it possible to conceive of a 'rng test' that the output would not (for particular p , taken as constant) fail ?
asciilifeform: so erry time you milk the wire for a witness, he gives you ( with some probability higher than what you would expect from actual rng per the orig m-r ) a false witness , erry time.
asciilifeform: however he would like you to have a good probability of settling on a p which is actually composite
asciilifeform: where the devil in fact knows what each of your p is ( but he won't tell yer human enemy, he likes to make humans fight for amusement )
asciilifeform: however, for baking m-r witnesses, you are in fact using a wire that goes down straight into hell
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, i expect sometime before 2022 ima switch to buying azn cars. what can you do, germans are morons now. ☟︎
asciilifeform: suppose you have candidate p , generated with what you consider to be a working (i.e. uniform) rng , with no interference from devils.
BingoBoingo: Version for export to China/India/Russia/Qatar probably better anyways
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's rework the supposition into a gedankenexperiment, with mircea_popescu's permission ( plox to say if the described situation dun match the orig. )
mircea_popescu: we don't see the same thing here.
asciilifeform: sure enuff, but seems to me that asking for an object that appears to pass even elementary (e.g. 'pi dart') rng smoke test, while actually avoids 3/4 of the phase space in its output, is like asking for a 2 which is also a 3 .
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, fortunately their tower of shit depends on crap like having gps in the car.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, there's a difference between "show x can't be done" and "show how to do x"
asciilifeform: oook even with tea i cannot digest it. mircea_popescu's gedankendevice requires http://trilema.com/2017/resplenduminous/ . ☟︎
BingoBoingo: ^ Disagrees with EU on which side of road is for driving, auto-adopts entire EU transport shit anyways
asciilifeform to tea, will think
asciilifeform: i confess the orig. supposition still dun compute in my head, where yes 3/4 of number line proves compositivity , but somehow a device which even approximates uniform random, manages to avoid'em in 32+ shots.
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/4Qjzh << keks of all fucking time.
asciilifeform: ( a coupla thou. are known, found by brute force for the bottom 10e12 or so of number line, that's afaik it )
asciilifeform: afaik there is no recipe for finding large carmichaels .