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pete_dushenski: though it's probably fair to say that anyone trinque associates with is an sd or two above the mean
trinque: I don't speak with many that'd be unaware they were well off.
pete_dushenski: i guess it could be the mistaken belief that 'men of the people are by definition the people incarnate and are therefore as average as anyone even though we remember only the names of the best of us and not those of the men who were truly average and truly of the people'
pete_dushenski: the americans at home are free to correct me here, tis just my impression from afar
pete_dushenski: as if that was the only true basis for their xtianity reborn
pete_dushenski: i'm not sure what it is with americans imagining that their founding fathers lived in filth and squalour their entire lives.
mircea_popescu: (at the time the 60k acres were perhaps worth a few k ounces of gold. maybe. for instance.)
mircea_popescu: he certainly wasn't poor, but that's as far as that goes. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: acreage was ~1 dollar per. ONE YEAR of govt sales produced in excess of 1mn dollars during "normal" times and well over 10 mn during speculative bubbles.
mircea_popescu: "Washington was a land developer, often described as the richest of his generation. By the end of the American Revolution, General Washington controlled about sixty thousand acres of land" << and there lies the debunk. it's true that george washington was well off. it's true he controlled some tens of k's of acres. it is UNTRUE that made him "richest in his generation". ☟︎
pete_dushenski: http://jackbaruth.com/?p=3683#comment-48692 << not my comment, but hit the bullseye at the intersection of politics and sexual proclivities. bingoboingo might also like the topic (college bball)
assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » George Washington, Mules, and Donald Trump ... ( http://bit.ly/1jDurdJ )
pete_dushenski: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/10/22/george-washington-mules-and-donald-trump/comment-page-1/#comment-270616 << because trump IS more like george washington than you'd care to admit (where you admits zero likeness)
mircea_popescu: as long as they're both hfcs drinks all's good.
mircea_popescu: like hell! real sports fans think the sport outcomes OBVIOUSLY MATTER. they just don't think they matter to anything in particular, but that's fine, neither does the punditry fan.
mircea_popescu: Political TV punditry is like sports for the intellectual set. You get to keep track of who's on which team, who gets traded, who made what play last night...and none of it could possibly matter less to what actually makes the world go 'round. At least sports fans don't have the same delusion of their choice of entertainment "mattering".
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRxbClfWIAAZIx8.png:large "Wondering how my botnet researcher friends feel like knowing that all botnets they took down w/ FBI ended up to TAO " ☟︎
assbot: Drug compounder offers cheap version of costly Turing drug ... ( http://bit.ly/1XnMd36 )
BingoBoingo: Saw it. Imma sleep and do draft two of Qntra submission guidelines when I wake up taking in the feedback since the original publication and my waking.
pete_dushenski: (if you don't see it, try a page re-fresh)
pete_dushenski: but if monday rolls around and you find my pgp sig on a mortgage and a !rate travispatron 10 bbf4lyf, i'm in a better place.
pete_dushenski: also, if anyone's looking for me, i'll be away this weekend sans internet. just a heads up
BingoBoingo: Second space not only means nothing, it means less than nothing.
pete_dushenski: well i'm quite happy to beleet the space then
trinque gets another beer, triggered
trinque: browser smashes multiple spaces to one
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: For a browser to care you do.
pete_dushenski: "Who said smartphones weren't useful ?" v. "(Run moar winbloze!™)" << though i seem to only use a question/exclamation mark once every 4-5 articles, so maybe not a big deal.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: For a browser to care you actually have to use the special character to force the second space.
trinque: well I mean, what one does to cope with a world of shit is forgivable
BingoBoingo: So before it gets to that debate you have to ask yourself "Am I that much of a pretentious dick" or am I going to trust the reading software to know.
punkman: trinque: I do that
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo i use a space 90% of the time on contravex, but i've been even less consistent in qntra submissions.
trinque: punkman: to take this to the absurd extreme, imagine your crawler had to OCR an image of the web page
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: It's html, there is no second space. Browser enforces that unless you a a dick who adds a second &nbsp
pete_dushenski: i was suprised to see that neither BingoBoingo nor mircea_popescu mentioned a guideline for a space (or no space) after the last word in a sentence and any subsequent question/exclamation mark.
trinque: point being your crawler wants facts not tag soup
trinque: I wouldn't want to take your crawler from you; I'd just prefer it were crawling structured data that is solely data
trinque: and so on; they're very poorly defined
punkman: trinque: the whole semantic thing in html is horse-shit << well I can't say I prefer <div> and <table> to <article> and <nav>, but maybe that's because I write crawlers often
trinque: the idea with "em" and other such "semantic" tags were to remove the notion that any particular reader would be used
BingoBoingo: trinque: Yes CSS does that
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You've been very guilty of that. Now it is official.
trinque: BingoBoingo: in those cases it's somewhat reasonable; CSS does that
pete_dushenski: No footnotes in the first (or only) paragraph of a submission. << good idea. i've been guilty of this and it does look sloppy
BingoBoingo: Now <center> and other alignment tags, depreciated still
mircea_popescu: im not even sure tbh
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu b i works. is that what you use on trilema ?
BingoBoingo: May they pick their index article well
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You also write to much to make every contravex mandatory, every third past article.
pete_dushenski: every third past ?
mircea_popescu: a in that case let's instead go b i
pete_dushenski: "and every third past contravex post article keeping up with the news ones is a good starting point." << kinda broken, BingoBoingo. no comprendo
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They were undepreciated
mircea_popescu: o wait they're back ?
trinque: the whole semantic thing in html is horse-shit
punkman: supposedly they have some "semantic" diffeence
punkman: strong and em were in vogue for a while, but then html5 brought b/i backj
pete_dushenski: (ftr 8-week-olds won't go the fuck to sleep)
pete_dushenski: <b></b> for bold and <i></i> for italic << my dumdum wp install does <strong></strong> for bold and <em></em> for italic. don't ask why but it seems unnecessary to specify which precise tags to use if strong/em seem to work just as well as b/i, which they do.
trinque: punkman: I don't either, likely due to string quoting in programming.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo i can live with that
punkman: I never liked that rule, ever since learning it in school. never used it either I think
pete_dushenski: trinque down with the fat cat quotation marks !
mircea_popescu: right it's exactly the opposite of "literary" english.
pete_dushenski: " Links to sources out of Level 1 of assbots Web or Trust and links to dynamic pages that change content as a function of their nature should be followed with a link to an archive.is snapshot of the page in the form" << specified here, mind you.
trinque: hell, if we're uprooting other things, why should the greedy quotation marks be safe!
pete_dushenski: "Links to sources out of WoT and links to dynamic pages should be followed with a link to an archive.is snapshot of the page in the form (archived)" << the thing about this is that assbot's wot =! BingoBoingo's wot =! author's wot. so whose wot is the correct wot ?
BingoBoingo: Either way the language is broken
trinque: seems rather odd that some side effect from that which is quoting the inner material should end up inside the quotation
trinque: pete_dushenski: it's an odd rule, if considered right in english grammar. I'm not aware of the rules in other languages. Regardless, why do the quotes eat the punctuation at the end of the sentence, but require no internal puntuation when the sentence quoted otherwise would.
pete_dushenski: if that's the rule, i'll abide, but if it's up for discussion, i'm in favour of the 'wrong.' ☟︎
pete_dushenski: (Right : He said "this sucks". Wrong : He said "this sucks.") << not a fan of this 'right'
BingoBoingo: Well if we are talking food name diversions, I came up with an interesting "alt white Russian" last week
punkman: well those two I can easily get, but finding real chocolate is a hassle
mircea_popescu: more people than food.
BingoBoingo: It wasn't here till 2005 when Hersheys pushed the limit. Fucking Chicago bastards
punkman: BingoBoingo: yeah that's common here
BingoBoingo: For a while Hershey was advertising that shit as chocolate... since the ruling they just don't sell chocolate now, just "chocolate product" ☟︎
punkman: do they allow vegetable oil in US chocolate now?
assbot: Logged on 22-10-2015 21:54:01; mircea_popescu: "(1) Hershey's, et al, petitioned the FDA and EU to allow them to change the definition of "milk chocolate" to allow for the substitution of vegetable oil for cocoa butter. The FDA said no, but the EU thought it would be awesome idea.
assbot: Operation Cyber Juice: Police and Their Favorite Drug of Abuse, Part 1 | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LJG0ad )
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/10/operation-cyber-juice-police-and-their-favorite-drug-of-abuse-part-1/#comment-69824 << And people are catching on that piece leads somewhere. I won't spoil it and say it ends in "Police turn themselves into inhuman monsters. but..."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No one yet, but I suspect someone is going to scan a document and think "this format is old enough: ☟︎
mircea_popescu: who the fuck submits tiffs ffs.
BingoBoingo: Because Qntra actually cares about delivering Bitcoin news to dial up and Africa
BingoBoingo: But less pictures the better
mircea_popescu: well... it doesn't, is the point.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo there's this growing trend where "is better with images", derp media ends up with the most ridiculous images published
BingoBoingo: Last one I saw was the first Saw
mircea_popescu: i think i might have seen 2
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo well to discourage derps from plundering google images. << ic
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> wow they made 6 saws ?! << 7, Maybe an 8th in a year or two. 1, 2, 5, and 6 are watchable.
mircea_popescu: if you go to conference and take pic of x sure
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well to discourage derps from plundering google images.
mircea_popescu: wow they made 6 saws ?!
BingoBoingo: Betsy Russell, very under rated and very super titted "scream queen"
BingoBoingo: cazalla, thestringpuller, pete_dushenski, hanbot, PeterL as the qntra contributors with more than 3 pieces a piece, your feedback is especially welcome. Every contributor will get a ;;later tell in about 12 hours baring messages lodged in channel.
BingoBoingo: At the moment I am liking the smashing and tensing of the content and non-content material
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Concerning images can you clarify the concept of ownership considering the #b-a corpus: "Images are acceptable if you own them"