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assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 17:58:38; ascii_field:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306139 << advertising has no future in a sane world. but has anyone invented even a hypothetical profit model for qntra
that doesn't in some way involve it? i've been wondering
this since
the day q opened
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306325 <<
trilema is for instance making decent money on subscription model.
this is not
to be discounted. also, no press IN
THE HISTORY of press has EVER made money. not ever. it didn't happen (yes
there are exceptions, in particular,
temporary, self limited nooks).
this never stopped
the press from being WORTH money, which it always was.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: "Shocked, and also frightened for his safety due
to
the fact
that Johnson is a “big girl,”
the 140 pound security guard said he ran out until police arrived. When
they did, female officers entered
the restroom with Johnson still “putting in work with
the sausage.”"
ascii_field: 'When
they did, female officers entered
the restroom with Johnson still “putting in work with
the sausage.”'
mircea_popescu: sex is by its design
the one,
the first,
the best public matter.
mircea_popescu: they also don't put chunks of mango in
the mango icecream i bet. you knolw ?
ascii_field: for some reason, even before
the oil
thing, 'hershey' is associated with diarrhea in my mind
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 17:49:30; ascii_field:
thing is, it is necessary
to explain why i can get ru chocolate (and without breaking a sweat, really) at some mere 3x
pete_dushenski: "we're like
the nsa, fbi, cia alphabet agencies, but better !"
pete_dushenski: whoddathunk
that
the meta-nsa would only be meta... in name
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski just saying, a dossier on all
the ways alphabet mitigates
tax is definitely a qntra worthy research project for
the actuarialy inclined.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu alphabet would seem
to be a
tax mitigation strategy from
this angle, but maybe it's one of
those libtard jokes gone wrong, like 'czar'
mircea_popescu: why
the fuck does google even have an "alphabet" parent, since we're discussing
these
things ? doth qntra know?
☟︎ pete_dushenski: better
to understand
that part of
the world now
than after i'm already
there
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i was
thinking about
this,
there's no way
to avoid a v dependency anyway, in principle. so it will have
to be a python www anyway
pete_dushenski: "After laying off more
than 300 workers,
Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey is
trying
to lift
the spirits of
the remaining employees by giving
them 6.8 million shares of
the stock he owns in
the online messaging service." << so noble of jack
to
take a
tax write-off on
these shares before
their value plummets
to zero.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: or integrate whole
thing into a pythonatronic www
thing, a la phuctor
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 16:53:18; pete_dushenski: "Our 36 years of continuous growth and success has been driven by our consistent willingness
to reimagine our future" << heh
mircea_popescu: course callouts from www
to python will have
to be supported.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: all
the useful, correct parts, were published,
they are in
the 'v' article on your www.
mircea_popescu: looky,
there's sometrhing dysfiunctional in
this process of "i want
this
thing, and i want it
to work exactly like
this
thing i made,
that i'm not publishing". what is
this,
tru love mating ?
ascii_field: atm i desperately lack
the
time
to do anything useful with
this.
mircea_popescu: which is wjhy you break it open publish
the parts
that work
ascii_field: and i now consider mod6's gadget
to have superseded mine.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
there were a bunch of important
things which did not work.
ascii_field: i actually had
this working in my unpublished v-wwwtron
mircea_popescu: so you want
the www server
to see [path]/hash/ and spit out
the right file ?
ascii_field: i don't need a 100MB pile of shit in my browser,
ty
ascii_field: just display
the file having
that hash, and have
the js wind
to
the correct line
mircea_popescu: how about what you want is a # in front of each file, linked
to [path]/filename#hash
ascii_field: really needs a wwwtronic
thing
that
takes a vhash in
the url and a line num.
mircea_popescu: no you're right... so basically each line needs a # in front of it, which should link
to
that... hmmm...
ascii_field: it is
the vhash (sha512) of his output's main.cpp
ascii_field: it will always be possible
to produce
the file having it, by walking
the chain
ascii_field: 9cbe118c362dca5f4e340519d3ad48e79a1ef896f2fe297a3481067e8a3c0c1fdd6c09fe251918358e67bc90aa884f952454c051ddfca06f334ce359aadd688a#xxxxx where xxxxx is
the line
ascii_field: in order
to do
this,
there would have
to be a www widget
that displays
the
tree he patched against. and will continue
to do so a year from now.
mircea_popescu: \and want actual meaningful LINE,
that's complex suddenly
mircea_popescu: but if you're not happy with
the mere "meaningless line" as seen i ntrilema selection
ascii_field: well, more concretely,
today i wanted
to link
to one of
the places where funkenstein introduced a mistake
mircea_popescu: but see, you wish
to link
to "lines of code" except
these are lower
than
the minimal granularity ;
they only catch meaning after
the ast was derived from
the whole program
ascii_field: well yes, which is why a link has
to encode ~which~ point in
the patchspace it links
to.
ascii_field: no, because it is pointless
to save something
that can be re-derived.
mircea_popescu: well
this actually changes everything... should we be saving directly asts ?
mircea_popescu: specifically : does
this actually need
to make a "line of code" a graph node ?
mircea_popescu: of course
the other problem in question may actually be one of
those "ensconced rock"
type of
things, ie, we've not fully conceptualized
the implications.
mircea_popescu: that's a different problem. but merely
the "individual lines of a page" part of it
ascii_field: so it is not simply a matter of highlighting
text on a www page.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: not
trivial. see
thread. it has
to not break when new patches appear!
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 16:45:38; ascii_field: because i can't link
to individual lines of code
there.
mircea_popescu: moroever, if your five days of research can just be dreamed up by
the next guy, you've not done any actual research.
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 16:11:41; HeySteve: well, I've accepted a freelance writing contract for
this weekend so I can't make any immediate changes. if someone is interested in editing it, I
think it's worth doing before Banx assumes its next form
thestringpuller: oh wow cad-comic is still around and
they have a physical publisher now and an ongoing?
ascii_field does not actually know enough on
the subject
to comment further
☟︎ ascii_field: afaik every single webcomic
that actually pays somebody's rent is produced by a charismatic reddit-panderer
ascii_field: i really can't fathom how qntra could
turn a profit any more
than
therealbitcoin could
thestringpuller: me either. qntra isn't a webcomic so I don't expect it
to monetize as such. but
the webcomics have held
their own.
ascii_field: it also helps
to remember
that 'nobody pays for sunlight'
thestringpuller: this is why
thinkgeek is still around a decade later, yet
they sell nothing but "tyos"
ascii_field: whereas ~thinking~ btc folks are not easily separable from
their btc.
☟︎ ascii_field: thestringpuller:
the one
thing
that always bugged me about r. munroe is his eagerness
to play
to
the reddit/derp crowd
thestringpuller: enough
that he doesn't have
to get a "real job" and can subsidize gf's medical bills
thestringpuller: ^- you do
this with XKCD and
they make money without ads, so something is going on here.
ascii_field: because if i can't link
to it, it doesn't rightfully exist
ascii_field: notice
that when we discuss books, i eventually end up linking a w4r3z copy here.
thestringpuller: jurov:
this is good point. XKCD is profitable because of it's merch store
☟︎ ascii_field: 'if i can't link someone
to it, it isn't part of
the conversation' or how did it go.
ascii_field: because a
thing like qntra works at least partly by being linkable
☟︎ thestringpuller: ascii_field:
there has
to be something Qntra could publish you would be willing
to purchase
ascii_field: thestringpuller:
thing is, i only buy books because reading on electronic machines is unpleasant (and before anyone asks, i own a dozen or so different
types)