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ascii_field: afaik usg does not even
think in
these
terms
ascii_field: what's
the roi of
this week's 'minuteman' rocket
test ?
ascii_field: as i understand,
the ethereum
thing was not purely a classical scam, but has abstract/usgtronic political aims
mircea_popescu: understandably, it's not clear
the us fed is worth
that much atm,
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ascii_field: but is it coin
they wish
to avoid losing ? or 'intangibles' ?
mircea_popescu: it went
to all shit (15 iirc last, 50% over
the cutoff of
the bitbet), only
to get a dead cat's jump yest.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field apparently
they can't afford
to lose 150 BTC
THIS BAD.
thinkaboutit.
mircea_popescu: fuyck
that shit.
the world women's organisation is gonna publish studies about
the CAUSAL relationship between domestic beatings and happiness.
mircea_popescu: this is what has
to be uprooted, fucking WHO making studies about
the impact of inequality ?
mircea_popescu: but yes : do you
think sumner rothstein gives a flying fuck
that his car producing subsidiary paid his
tv producing subsidiary a billion in advertising with no roi, when
the result of
this expense is
that china now
THINKS
the
truth about china is on viacom released movies and argentines
think citibank is a
thing
that may exist in buenos aires ?
mircea_popescu: ""The evidence we have from
these academic studies is
that quite often [soap opera viewers in developing countries]
take away different attitudes
toward
things like how many children
they want, what is acceptable behavior for a husband
toward his wife, what is
the breakdown in a household of responsibilities over
things like finances, should we be sending girls
to school," says Charles Kenny, an economist at
the World
mircea_popescu: anyway, he explained somewhere
that ads aren't designed
to sell
the avertised product, but
the SYSTEM
that produces
the product in question.
thestringpuller: i guess royalty is bad word. qntra publishes something, people buy what's published, qntra receives revenue for as long as
that
thing is "in print"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well, it's all
the media of
the new republic. <<
This was my point.
The 'intellectual property' or whatever you want
to call it spawning from qntra is
the value. For instance a movie or book, or some other form of media published under qntra. I see royalties in
the future perhaps?
mircea_popescu: it destroys
the "notion of payment" = all payments are grocery, bitcoin should be visa, all peopel are equal and mp should be nicer
to fucktard x.
mircea_popescu: what does
the queen's mineral water cost ? "it would be an honor if you drank our water!"
ascii_field: but how does
this destroy
the grocery notion of payment ?
ascii_field: as in
the story with 'what does mircea_popescu's flat cost' ?
mircea_popescu: the financial notion of monetary commitment is DIFFERENT from
the grocery notion of monetary commitment.
mircea_popescu: govt comes out announcing it's "commitment"
to so and so.
mircea_popescu: suppose instead
the streetwalker is a bank in distress, and you decide
to prop it up. you don't do jack, all you do is SAY you're going
to do it.
mircea_popescu: this is usually a
transaction between you and her holder, involving one or more crumpled up pieces of paper.
mircea_popescu: suppose you desire
the use of a streetwalker for half an hour.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i suspect
the very notion of PAYMENT is going
to be destroyed by btc. let me illustrate what i mean.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well, it's all
the media of
the new republic.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: from
this standpoint
this Qntra is more like a media conglemorate
than a simple new agency.
ascii_field: in
the sense of somebody-pays-and-it-goes-to-shareholders
ascii_field: so
then it doesn't need a profit model in
the usual sense?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller successful webcomics also aren't usually attached
to behemoths set on destroying
the entire world. note
that qntra is NEVER going
to be successful, because it's not here
to obtain praise from daddy.
ascii_field: so qntra
targets 'the people',
the ones who buy ipad ?!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "successful" webcomics usually survive by selling
their brand.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field and yet, as much
they dislike paywalls,
they love paying for ipads.
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 19:56:17; mircea_popescu: ascii_field not even about me. why would ~you~ argue it like
that ? you don't argue like
that for anything else, certainly not anything else you know well / understand in depth.
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 18:20:02; *: ascii_field does not actually know enough on
the subject
to comment further
ascii_field: so, not a brainfart, i really meant
to say
this. but it is possible
that i catastrophically misunderstand
the purpose of qntra.
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 18:03:03; jurov: mugs and
tees!
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i really was
thinking 'qntra is a propaganda machine primarily for speaking
to non-#b-a people.' ergo 'thinking folks other
than myself dislike paywalls' is a relevant hypothesis
ascii_field: mod6: see
thread. i'd like
to be able
to link
to known lines in known files of known vhash.
trinque: the day rapidly approaches when I simply write my own IRC handling part, rather
than using
this golang bot
trinque: pete_dushenski: heh. some piece of inane, unnecessary complexity for sure. died during a netsplit so I assume he handles
this rather poorly.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field
the point i'm coming
to is
that it's, unlike something you/those
thinking people have actually
thought about, merely an aculturation. ie, "this is how we dress". and i know where it comes from
too, and so forth. nothing wrong with it, but it is what it is.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: now
that you say
this, i'm not even sure i correctly apprehend
the purpose of qntra.
mod6: ascii_field: for lxr should jurov and I just put up
the code
to HEAD
that includes
through 'maxint' and 'verifyall' -- and we'll label it "HEAD" or "v0.5.4-TEST2"?
There isn't any actual reason
to have
two versions of code going up
through each leaf is
there?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field not even about me. why would ~you~ argue it like
that ? you don't argue like
that for anything else, certainly not anything else you know well / understand in depth.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 13:39:19; jurov: and on more serious note, I miss anything about paragraph formatting, guess <p> should be allowed or even endorsed,
too.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i get
that
the phrase
triggers your allergy.
trinque wonders wtf is killing
that
thing
mircea_popescu: ascii_field besides
the point what you were
tryingt
to say.
the important
thing
to notice is how your mental flow went. and it went
to "i am not alone". why would it ?
mircea_popescu: moreover she didn't want
to / understand she has
to make a gpg, and i dun wanna encourage
the demuring damsels.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
the point i was
trying
to make was not
that some 'silent majority' (tm) of
thinking people dislike paywall and 'therefore paywalls suck', but
that, if my hypothesis is
true, it may pose a practical problem - how many of
the folks in #b-a would have
taken an interest in it if merely reading
the logs had cost money ?
mircea_popescu: she'd prolly go for it, but she'd still have
to be paid, and so far qntra is not so keen
to spend cash.
pete_dushenski: how about
the chica who did your last xt-memorial comic ?
mircea_popescu: yeah pete_dushenski but i recall we briefly interviewing a moderately
talented fellow in
this very chan and he wanted a billion euros or some shit.
mircea_popescu: you're alone among
thinking people
thinking computing sucks. what now ? it doesn't suck ?
mircea_popescu: you can paint
the box whatever color you want. what do you
think elen degeneres says, "degenerates" ?
mircea_popescu: you don't wanna go
to
the fuckfest because fucking is by its nature public, but you wanna be
thinking in a herd because
thinking by its nature is private ?
mircea_popescu: who
the fuck cares and when did you start giving a shit if you're alone or not. what's
this nonsense!
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 18:00:47; ascii_field: and i don't
think i am alone among
thinking people in
this position on paywalls.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306332 << and if you were
to be against gpg, or against signed commits, or against "not everyone is/can be a contriobutor" or for "women in
tech" in
the sense of lipstick in
the optic drive or a bunch of other equally nutty notionms, you could equally say "i don't
think i am alone" and more importantly, FIND YOURSELF INCLINED
TO SAY IT
☝︎ ascii_field: 'would you, could you, in
the zoo' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: i just gave you some lsd (by permission) in
the shape of serotonin or whatever you fired in your own brain.
ascii_field: but it difficult
to answer. how much money does my car earn ?
mircea_popescu: how much money does
the pet earn you ascii_field ? and what P/E do i need
to pay
to buy her ?
ascii_field will have
to remember
to ask for
this pill when next visiting mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: so far, gutting
the pretense of "press" of
the oposition,
that DOES advertise, is good enough.
ascii_field: can't be explained? must
take
the correct lsd ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: '...this never stopped
the press from being WORTH money, which it always was' << how does
this work ?
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 18:00:09; ascii_field:
that'll be when i stop reading.