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mircea_popescu: wait, you were gonna go weaboo all over
the xbox line but
then slept
through
the opening ?
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: (for
the record,
taking a regular caffine pill before sleep doesn't wok)
gabriel_laddel: but all of
this is solved when I
take a pill - not just a caffine pill - but a coffee extract?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I enjoyed
the fuck out of going
to buy $CENSORED and was really excited about it, but ended up sleeping
through
the allotted
time.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I see your point about education 100% at
this moment.
trinque: I enjoyed
the fuck out of winning at
that game so I did
trinque: the sergeant's screaming had nothing
to do with my waking up
gabriel_laddel: and all of
this is solved by
taking a pill before I go
to sleep
gabriel_laddel: and even with people screaming at me, I still missed
things
gabriel_laddel: trinque: you're missing my point, or I'm not stating it correctly. I've missed
things I care deeply about because of sleep
trinque: gabriel_laddel:
this sounds like "I should've given a fuck" not "I gave a fuck"
trinque: to be grinning with a "fuck you"
to
the sergeant
that'd come busting into my room screaming hoping I was still asleep
trinque: and I went
to a few pretend military camps in
the summer and woke up myself every morning while
there
trinque: except I didn't give a fuck
to, and my mother woke me up with breakfast and all my shit ready
to go
trinque: yeah I "never could wake up" as a
teenager either
gabriel_laddel: trinque: people have screamed
things of
this nature at me when I would miss
the little school I went
to
gabriel_laddel: trinque: you'd
think
that. but I've missed events I *really* wanted
to attend because I wouldn't wake
trinque: if you're bitching about waking up in
the morning I
think you haven't suffered enough
trinque: or maybe *you* wouldn't but
the normal human mind can decide it can do all kinds of
things when it must
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I've lived with myself for 23 years, and have at no point been able
to wake up sanely. I
try it with
these caffine pills and et viola! I wake up like a normal human!
trinque: these
types of experiences (and
they're probably
the cheapest version) will rid you of
that nonsense in a moment
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: yeah, I don't know what
this "being a man" stuff is about
trinque: the reason I mentioned it is
that you are so sure of your model of yourself
trinque: accepted he might die,
then found it within himself
to be a man and swim his ass back
to what felt like shore, and he did
trinque: he was disoriented and lost
track of
the beach and ended up rather far out
trinque: this is where he gets dumped in
the ocean on mushrooms
gabriel_laddel: I understand
the point you're making, but simply don't find
that it applies
to my situation.
trinque: you're doing
the same
thing.
mircea_popescu: he had diabethes. according
to him, he could not
take
the medicine. except with honey.
gabriel_laddel: and
the whole process of brushing
teeth
takes like 1 hour
mircea_popescu: there's somewhere in
the log
this observation, you can't learn medicine on yourself.
gabriel_laddel: othewise I wake up and hate myself, am unable
to open my eyes etc
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: look,
there are some
things
that I *know* make my body work better
trinque: ahaha,
this is excellent due
to
the gentoo-as-ricer-car mockery
gabriel_laddel: actually, with respect
to portage / gentoo / funtoo - yeah
mircea_popescu: the only reason it's not included in
the series version is
that it's a stupid idea.
mircea_popescu: it's an industrial fucking product, you
think
they don't know what you know ?
mircea_popescu: tell you what, if your mods were actually improvements
THEY WOULD BE IN
THE CAR.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <gabriel_laddel> and
then I spend more
time hacking apart portage
than I would have otherwise << no you don't.
this is like
the ridiculous notion of
teenagers
that
they'll make a car "better".
trinque: my statement is right
there, no secret other meanings
trinque: fascinating, I didn't say it was for
that
trinque: "I am
the guy
that coded for 40 hrs."
gabriel_laddel: and
then I spend more
time hacking apart portage
than I would have otherwise
trinque: what is
the goal? so you stay awake for 40 hrs
trinque: this is an odd notion of being better; note
that it is mostly about you being some kind of machine you run for x hours and produce y per hour
gabriel_laddel: trinque: for example,
the modafinil
that I've
taken works great for other people.
trinque: those may be different chemistry; I'm still chewing on
the article as I said!
gabriel_laddel: trinque: it seems
to me
that
the other
thing missing from
this discussion is
that we've all very different chemistry.
trinque: have you ever really considered
the fact
that you will soon die?
trinque: for me
that's plenty
to get
to work
gabriel_laddel: it's a horrid slog
through boring nonsense, depression,
the works.
gabriel_laddel: trinque: in part. It's also
that I'm just not interested or excited about life without coffee.
trinque: I drink coffee yes, for
the high, but
this does not prevent me from reading otherwise
trinque: is it
that you have
trouble clearing your head
to consider one
thing at a
time?
trinque: like you're a guy at
the bridge of yourself directing
things rather
than being
the
thing
trinque: this notion of making oneself do a
thing is bizarre
gabriel_laddel: trinque:
the problem I have with being coffee-free isn't
the stress, but rather
that I miss having my
thoughts race around
trinque: I've quit it entirely before, feels like shit, but a lot of
the "stress" I was feeling back
then was
the several cups of coffee per day I was drinking.
trinque: my only point is I wouldn't self diagnose "I need meds" before dropping your caffeine
to zero, seeing where you're at
gabriel_laddel: I've been burnt out on coke and hating life, but never have had
this effect.
mircea_popescu: the serious problem for coffee drinkers is
the caffeine headache.
☟︎ trinque: why are you surprised your body's freaking out over your
treatment of it?
trinque: yeah I've been fucked up on drugs before
too bud
gabriel_laddel: and
this goes away completely when I don't drink a lot of coffee
trinque: sure,
this is very interesting
though
gabriel_laddel: with coffee
there are all sorts of weird
things: like whenever I have a bike pass me by, I sort of envision it running into me.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise,
the fact
that placebo is nothing short of crazy is an open secret in clinician circles.
mircea_popescu: trinque
the caution being
that it's a single study and
they might be insane.
gabriel_laddel: like, you're just standing and
then
the stray
thought "hey, it'd be nice
to fall into bed, except
there isn't a bed her" flies
through your mind?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: do you have
the effect of almost fainting sometimes?
trinque: but it affects goddamn everything all over
the body
trinque: as it stands you've got a massive addiction
to caffeine
gabriel_laddel: trinque: you're right. I've not even read
the article yet.