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ascii_field: but on
the other hand,
they didn't hang all of germany
mircea_popescu: there is no "resistance
through culture", you don't get
to
tell me "hey i knew all along X was a scam, i just promoted it ironically"
mircea_popescu: the mengele who knows he's doing wrong anf
the mengele who "doesn't" are both mengele.
ascii_field: tlp's point, i
think, was precisely
that he isn't mengele and if he won't vivisect
the screaming prisoner, he'll
take his place
mircea_popescu: should be part of
the
test. no sexual history, no meds.
ascii_field: in fact i'm pretty certain
that it is happening as we speak a floor or so below where i sit
mircea_popescu: i have no objection
to anyone who ever prescribed neuroleptics in virgins
to be
taken straight off
to death row.
ascii_field: 'inject
this blue paint in
the eyes of
this here 100 prisoners before you clock out'
mircea_popescu: but
this isn't what
this is.
this is a doctor claiming he's being a contemporary rendition of fucking mengele because "the jews and
the dogs expected it"
ascii_field: say a fella at butugychag stuffs his boot full of ammonal and blows off his
toes,
to avoid work detail in
the quarry
mircea_popescu: obviously i have no us clinical experience. i also have an apparent inability
to represent how
this'd work. seriously, doctor says "nope, he's acting out because of X, Y, Z, and medications aren't going
to fix
this" and
the parent argues
the point ? with
the doctor ? just.... how ?
mircea_popescu: i wonder how much of
this is jenuine and how much mere malingering.
mircea_popescu: "When a kid is presented
to a psychiatrist,
the psychiatrist is pressured, obligated,
to do something pharmacological. If a psychiatrist looked a single parent a joint away from a nap right in
the eye and said, "nope, he's acting out because of X, Y, Z, and medications aren't going
to fix
this"
that doctor will get his head handed
to him by parent or by lawyer. Justice will be done, you negligent elitist."
ascii_field: nobody canceled
the good ol' chemical straightjacket
mircea_popescu: The cause of
these high levels of medications is so simple you'll recoil from
the
truth of it, but pour yourself a drink and
take it like a man:
the kids showed up.
That's it.
The kid is in front of you and you have
to do something, now,
that results in an acute change. Not better grades 4 years out, or less sadness over
the
teen years; change
the sleep
tonight, make
the kid less hyper now, and when it "stops working
mircea_popescu: You'll observe
that none of
those words is "diagnosis" or "severity."
mircea_popescu: You can wrack your brain
trying
to figure
this out or blame
the usual suspects, but
the answer is right
there in
the article:
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: what self-respecting психушка serves up something other
than neuroleptic ?
mircea_popescu: "10 year study of inpatient kids: 44% got antipsychotics. Is
that a lot? Yes. It's a lot."
mircea_popescu: could marry cameron diaz,
they could go
to conferences as cameron & cameron diaz-tinkletoss
mircea_popescu: did
the cameron one get a sex change ? or is
that
the wachowski
mircea_popescu: it was erin was it ? or
taylor ? what was
the guy's name ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, plox
to not insult
the derps. gotta reference
them correctly, whenever it's one of
those idiots it should be "Blythe Masters, who claims
to have invented Facebook", or "Erin
Twinkletoss, who claims
to have invented CDOs" etc.
mircea_popescu: o wait,
the dude
that failed
to get
tenure at j p morgan university ?
mircea_popescu: the angle here is
that 6 months is a waste of
time/resources in
the present configuration
to go chase
that
thing. pure scheduling matter, yes, it's valuable, no we can't fill
the larder with brontosaurus.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 20:37:02; mircea_popescu: not some form. specifically
the following form : if you fail we all die.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 20:43:37; mircea_popescu: well no,
this is not even
the angle here.
ascii_field: or
the little Al pyramid on washington's monument?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: didja ever see
the
teaspoons ?
mircea_popescu: the NEXT box has a price. would napoleon have paid
that for his box ? never.
mircea_popescu: the first box, gifted
to napoleon, has no value (!= is worthless)
mircea_popescu: and now with exaples : aluminum is a
theoretical metal.
mircea_popescu: whereas nobody can exclude another from possession of a
theoretical item.
mircea_popescu: the equivalent approach is
to say item acquired a new property in going from a
to b. in both it's
the same
thing, but in b it is also an exclusive good
mircea_popescu: and so
therefore, going from a
to b actually increases
the market value of item.
through a process known as "creating a market".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in situation a,
the value of item is
to be calculated
theoretically ; in situation b,
the value of
the item is "a little less
than it costs me
to get one myself". and it is VERY practical. because yes, you MUST keep up with
the Xs.
mircea_popescu: situation a) item is shown
theoretically
to possibly exist ; situation b) item is alleged
to physically exist in vaults of lord X.
ascii_field: so idea is, mircea_popescu pays
to have
the koh-i-noor dug up,
the fact of
this matter is chronicled in
the logz, and anyone who's anyone is
to simply believe ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field outsiders are utterly a red herring.
there exist no outsiders. reddit might as well not exist and everyone else reads
the logs.
mircea_popescu: jurov i am actually saying something very much like
that, yes.
jurov: i'm utterly lost on
the sexual metaphor, but if mircea says no one is going
to look closely
to intel's silicon except under
threat of death, i gotta believe him
mircea_popescu: actually,
the
thing is more valuable once known
to exist.
mircea_popescu: obviously no
tool works for any purpose in any context.
ascii_field: i'm not sure
there ~is~ a difference re: e.g., an 0day
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between getting
to see
the koh i noor and knowing lord x owns it. or,
to quote popfictionikia, "Another consideration was education. Before
the late 1950s and
the advent of
the stately home business, very few working-class people had seen
the upstairs of
these great houses;
those
that had were
there only
to clean and serve, with an obligation
to keep
their eyes down, rather
than uplift
them and be
ascii_field: you did say 'nulls
the entire silence cost bs' ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i did not say nor was it implied
that i'll make it public. merely
that it is had.
ascii_field: who
the hell would pay for 100k reversing only
to have
the result made public ?
mircea_popescu: one of
the major wins of /me style b-a governance is
that it actually nulls
THAT ENTIRE silence cost bs. it's in
the logs.
ascii_field: see
the old 0day market
threadz, for instance.
ascii_field: jurov: one of
the
things
to understand is
that a, e.g., 100k r.e. job is really a
transaction in ~silence~ far more so
than in
the deliverable as conceived of in
this hypothetical.
mircea_popescu: (i suppose
the deeply lame situation of secret servicemen in
this regard has escape all notice prior ?)
mircea_popescu: stalker has files on all
the celebs, does
that mean
they're sexually intimate now ?
jurov: mossad has files on all
the professors?
jurov: what you describe would be mossad going
to german uni
mircea_popescu: not how
this works. if you wanna call it nonsense, show where it doesn't work.
jurov: how is
that comparable<
mircea_popescu: jurov why can't it happen you go
to neighbour's wife and place an order ?
jurov: why it cannot happen such
that mossad goes
to
tel aviv university and places an order?
mircea_popescu: not some form. specifically
the following form : if you fail we all die.
☟︎ jurov: i understand
there must be a pool of scientists, as staff or in wot
that must be reassigned
to
this
jurov: i never meant it
that way
ascii_field: in case n00bz are reading
this: nobody pays 100
tonnes for a reversing gig
to some unknown for
the same reason all 'assassination markets' are usg hoaxes
ascii_field: if you ever feel like explaining, i promise
to listen.
mircea_popescu: capitalism works well, but is not well suited
to
the
tasks
that feudalism requires.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field
the important
thing here being
that it is not even expensive. it's free. for me. which is a large part of
the problem - medieval knights didn't get paid in cash nor did
they pay cash for
the fees.
ascii_field: in
the same way as he has
the intel dept, mircea_popescucoin squad (whoever maintains
that 0.6-compat.
thing), etc.
ascii_field: but - unsurprisingly - he has his own people for
this.
mircea_popescu: oh i see. in a world of lizzards and wizzards, what's a girl
to do!
ascii_field: or possibly out of general grasp of
the mechanics