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trinque: v_diddy: wait this wasn't a place I worked with the lotto tickets was it?
v_diddy: and also reversion to the mean
asciilifeform: but you can rely on the 0.
v_diddy: mk then.
asciilifeform: ah in that sense, no.
v_diddy: really? scratch-offs are provably trustable now?
v_diddy: lotto ticket has unknowable, but predictably bad odds.
asciilifeform: v_diddy: i also remember the one other time i had a lotto ticket; when the lab where i worked in 2011 was defunded, the boss passed the hat and, as a last l0l, bought lotto tickets
v_diddy: so there
v_diddy: asciilifeform: perhaps remembers the lotto tickets at con3?
asciilifeform is fortunately not needed for any of this.
v_diddy: the man would also rather chew tacks than talk to humans, so we are at an impasse.
v_diddy: asciilifeform doubts my ability to milk humans of v!
phf: regressing to mean? that's a paddling
asciilifeform wishes v_diddy only the highest quality, not-at-all-regressed-to-mean offspring
trinque chuckles as the +ev scheme is laid bare!
v_diddy: he won't be able to resist!
v_diddy: worst case scenario i sell off a daughter or two to mircea_popescu
v_diddy: does schmuck attempting to hedge against total collapse of local civilization calculate ROI of expanding meatwot?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how to apply it properly.
v_diddy: farmer who has 10 children 6 of which survive, 3 of which are useful on the farm doesn't calculate either.
v_diddy: but perhaps with judicious selection and market knowledge one can over time make some money.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck is /mode #bitcoin-assets +b *!*@c-50-140-140-37.hsd1.il.comcast.net do nothing ?
v_diddy: value is apparent to some people.
v_diddy: what, you calculate the worth of a twenty lying on the street?
asciilifeform: aha. i've yet to meet anyone who had children ~as result of calculation~
trinque: at any rate it'll be fun to see what comes of your direction v_diddy :)
trinque: but I'd be fine to consider my kid an art project
trinque: you'd have to come at the thing by determining the value of your time, then the amount of time and resources devoted to the kid, what the kid ends up producing of value, does this offset the development period...
asciilifeform: aha, if you keep it around for no good reason other than that you like, e.g., its fur, its purr - it is a pet.
asciilifeform: v_diddy: livestock (if you've any business with them) are +ev
v_diddy: how do you draw the line between pets and livestock, asciilifeform?
mircea_popescu: ok this is enough of this.
asciilifeform: v_diddy: it is a perfectly fine thing to have pets, there is no need to pretend that they're +ev
v_diddy: failure of imagination, i tell yas.
v_diddy: tending the aquaponics, banging together a new dome, romping unattended in the neighbors fields not incurring costs...
asciilifeform wonders how far along usa collapse needs to be for this assumption to fade away
asciilifeform: the last time i went.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the thing that i was bitching about earlier is that nobody cared to find out how attentive ~i~ would be to the frier either
mircea_popescu: "You will observe the Keisha does not even have the enthusiasm to know what is written on the most important economic documents of her life. "I don't know, bipolar, panic attacks, whatever they put on there." She can't be bothered to handle those papers, someone else is in charge of that. How attentive will she be to the frier? McDonalds doesn't want to find out."
v_diddy: has yet to happen with /anyone/ i've taught to use power tools.
mircea_popescu: either that or they waste the consumables, break the tools and injure themselves.
v_diddy: make them shred papers. they learn something, biz gets shit done.
v_diddy: no, don't send kids to school. make them put up molding in the remodel. they learn something, the thing increases in value.
mircea_popescu: v_diddy how do you plan to extract value from the offspring ?
v_diddy: "must be rich to not send kids to school"
asciilifeform: v_diddy: they're -ev.
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2015 16:46:39; asciilifeform: 'this problem will not be solved for you personally, pray that your grandchildren get to live like people' <--> 'but i don't want to have children, i want to live like people ~myself~'
v_diddy: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=18-10-2015#1301924 << dude this notion that children must of necessity be -ev is a strictly temporal and american thing ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that's the measure of skilled in a life run as a business
mircea_popescu: then stop bitching and make those warrants / shares worth something.
asciilifeform: i suppose there is 'as a charity' ('keisha' et al)
mircea_popescu: which is fine, but it also means they gotta run their life as a business.
asciilifeform: v_diddy: was trying to speak of... actual market
mircea_popescu: there's a huge market for all sorts of skilled and a large pile of people who want skilled to mean what they want it to mean.
v_diddy: asciilifeform: doesn't this thread devolve into "there's precious little market for anything not supported by usg"?
asciilifeform: (because what does zimbabwe need engineer for ? as far as the people's republic is concerned, he's just another shit-scooper ~but with pretensions~)
mircea_popescu: naphex's been trying to hire skilled cocksuckers ; i've been trying to hire skilled pr ; bitbet still needs skilled bookies
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on the other end, there is also precious little market for... skilled anything.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: How To Be Mean To Your Kids ... ( http://bit.ly/1M1VEhg )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/09/how_to_be_mean_to_your_kids.html << tlp, at the top of his game
mircea_popescu: Ferrari and now it's only a Honda, but either way, not much time for absences and no time at all for Keisha's learning curve. Keisha isn't just unemployed, she is completely unemployable. We can argue whether auto plants should pay $20/hr or $50/hr, but for certain there is no market for unskilled labor at all."
mircea_popescu: "That specific issue reveals an important bias and misunderstanding America has when it talks about employment. Yes, there is an issue about people wanting to work but the other issue is that the global economy is too quick and efficient to tolerate your idiotic car troubles or your imbecilic grandmother's death or your moronic lack of child care (cue Scandinavia) or, and mostly, your stupid health. The economy was a
BingoBoingo: One of the other jacket people may also be drawing a second salary now too.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: One of those fellows on the linked page actually to my knowledge draws not one, but TWO professorial salaries from the same university.
mircea_popescu: baby chews right through dat!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> kim could have been done in 36 minutes. << Not anymore. Not with the new FUPA since she let herself go.
BingoBoingo: Dayum v_diddy so how many babbies were there?
mircea_popescu: also this is what you get for not favouring birthing hips!
v_diddy is taking some fucking paternity leave
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These creatures exist even at regional colleges, check "humanities department." Seems they adopted the uniform from Hollywood.
mircea_popescu: also these guys don't teach anything whatsoever. they mostly try to be carrie from sex and the city, except without the sex.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they come here on tour once in a spell. they don't wear this 'uniform' either.
v_diddy: ;;later tell pete_dushenski ^^
v_diddy: much less doing it to pound sense into his own spawn. could be wrong though.
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing here random derp making 63k a year from community college, we're discussing here krugman or w/e his name is, the nyt resident finance derp
v_diddy: i don't think pete's actually interested in /building/ the skoolarium ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik these creatures exist only in hollywood films
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no need to go far, see the case of, e.g., terry davis
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a thing, thick jacket with applied elbow patches, certain haircut, certain glasses, laptop-like case on shoulder, open collar shirt...
BingoBoingo: v_diddy: Mr. Combs is not a candidate really to lecture at Ben & Pete's Skoolarium ☟︎
v_diddy: anyone game to compare http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016RepNomination (via ritzy) to the odds on bitbet?
asciilifeform: typically, anything short of a proper felony conviction results in demotion at the most.
assbot: How To Retire At Age 27 | Thought Broadcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1M1UCBX )
asciilifeform: v_diddy: 'canned' means something quite else for a tenured prof than for the rank and file.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (typical u.s. state uni employs largely 'lecturers', who occupy approx. same place in the org chart as an air conditioner mechanic) << air conditioner mechanic comparatively makes bank compared to uni lecturer, and often professor
v_diddy: BingoBoingo: funny, hadn't heard that one.
v_diddy: except that if they sleep with their students they still get canned.
asciilifeform: a tenured prof is prolly the closest thing that presently exists in the western world to ~titled nobility~
shinohai: "They are in fact, the last bastions of mediaevalism left in modern society outside, perhaps, the church." <<< I like it already, because though I do not believe in God, I am somehow drawn to the church for just that reason.
asciilifeform: (typical u.s. state uni employs largely 'lecturers', who occupy approx. same place in the org chart as an air conditioner mechanic)
asciilifeform: most of'em don't even have the 'job security' popularly associated with this line of work
asciilifeform: but no, you won't find ~these~ profs at anything describable as 'pretentious party.' in fact, you won't find them at the high-end grocery shop, either.
asciilifeform could not help but take off his hat to, e.g., the fella who put off +ev employment until he was 40 and subsisted on chickenshit wage just so that he could teach asciilifeform and other scum algorithms, number theory, etc
shinohai: Possibly they stopped learning.
asciilifeform: went to school, professoring is just a (poorly-paying) job, and the folks who did it showed no symptoms of conceiving of it as anything else
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'I have a few friends (lawyers, hedge fund managers, high powered money types generally) who make sport of hunting and humiliating UStardian college professors socially. It is a sport I would like to see extended to the middle class. Next time you're at a pretentious party and you spot some douche in the uniform of "college professor", go see if you can make him admit he's not read a whole book....' << where i
BingoBoingo: P. Diddy also did: "On June 22, 2015, Combs was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon by the University of California, Los Angeles Police Department. He was accused of assaulting one of his son's football coaches after witnessing the coach yell at his son. His son, Justin Combs, plays football for the UCLA Bruins." << Because not even entertainment stars can spare their children the gladitorial arena
BingoBoingo: Puff Daddy, then P. Diddy, then Diddy, then Sean's Combs inc.
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 02:43:51; asciilifeform: mr mold had a hilarious piece on the subject, involving a game of chess played by vote