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assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 22:29:23; mircea_popescu: "Whenever I see a reference to a statement that seems insane to me, two things will be true: 1. It will take me as long to get the study as it did to conduct the study, i.e. 45 minutes. No hyperlink. No free access. Then I have to go into the university's PubMed, which takes me through three windows to Science Direct or some other outlet. Why, oh why, can't I just click "(15)" in the original pap
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312897 << death to copyrasty ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 21:43:27; mircea_popescu: i has lulzed enough to last me the month.
ascii_field: there are 3 separate rng subsystems in gpg 1.4 - but more on this later)
ascii_field: (deliberately not released with the mpi, because imho they are separate concerns)
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 21:45:55; mircea_popescu: re asciilifeform mpi : the actual extraction, and especially auditing of the rng is a very worthy project.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312886 << what if i admitted to having extracted it... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2015 00:56:46; asciilifeform: connects to the box itself with a thick triax cable
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 21:34:31; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312712 << the more i think abvout it the more i understand the "display has its own computer" cut of this gordian knot.
mircea_popescu: aka "any claim as to science or studies done made in english, or by a libtard, or in support of notions not found in the literature of 1800 is to be dismissed out of hand."
assbot: How to deal with pseudoscience ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRVDzE )
mircea_popescu: see it? Because: 2. It will turn out to be actually insane, and the only part of the reference that will support the statement will be the title."
mircea_popescu: "Whenever I see a reference to a statement that seems insane to me, two things will be true: 1. It will take me as long to get the study as it did to conduct the study, i.e. 45 minutes. No hyperlink. No free access. Then I have to go into the university's PubMed, which takes me through three windows to Science Direct or some other outlet. Why, oh why, can't I just click "(15)" in the original paper and immediately ☟︎
jurov: you're welcome to resend it to juraj@coinbr.com or otherwise publish
jurov: spam isn't as nutritional as i thought, seems
mircea_popescu: you clearly don't feed that thing enough.
jurov: asciilifeform: sadly i don't have your message because it started eating the bounces for yet unknown reason
shinohai: np, glad to be back on track
mod6: shinohai: yeah, looks like it worked. thanks!
mircea_popescu: it mighgt even tie in with the phuctor.
mircea_popescu: re asciilifeform mpi : the actual extraction, and especially auditing of the rng is a very worthy project. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i has lulzed enough to last me the month. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 16:41:36; asciilifeform: every time you stick in the knife, somebody says 'NOOOOOO! this is NECESSARY complexity...!'
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 16:46:49; asciilifeform: phf: in case this wasn't obvious, i was not speaking of a ~literal~ return to v6
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 Success I guess? http://dpaste.com/3WH9Q58
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 16:35:52; asciilifeform: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/diffutils.git/tree/src/util.c << a good chunk of the complexity IS THERE BECAUSE characters are EVER variadic
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312712 << the more i think abvout it the more i understand the "display has its own computer" cut of this gordian knot. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu has said "AT THE VERY FUCKING LEAST!!!1 separate this mess into string.h and non-string.h god damned it!!1"
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 16:17:23; jurov: *every* time i did anything nontrivial with #include <string.h> it ended up by drawing stuff on paper
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312684 << you are not the only one. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 15:43:52; jurov: well, you're bound to see your software broken by people who don't agree with you then
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312632 << once they broke it it's no longer mine, it's theirs. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 15:43:21; asciilifeform: as a native of what latinate folks regard as likewise a 'hieroglyphs' language, i STILL favour the abolition of 'hieroglyphs display on EVERY box'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312629 << hey, i nullrouted orc glyphs in romanian text! not even computing, literature. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (though i've read many convincing arguments that utf-8 is new jersey brain dead) << al lyou need to know is that it's what seems to have been left standing once the pain of "gotta support bullshit" washed off.
deedbot-: [Trilema] The quest ; and its resolution - http://trilema.com/2015/the-quest-and-its-resolution/
mircea_popescu: maybe when i retire i'll learn to lisp.
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 11:45:24; jurov: mircea_popescu: in your quest for other non-derpy irc chans, have you tried #lisp?
v_diddy: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312555 << very educational to watch drmeister and co hammer on clasp ☝︎
asciilifeform wanders off in the direction of pet
mircea_popescu: im going to have breakfast before i pop a vein
asciilifeform: eh i'd be spewing greek then
mircea_popescu: should have taken a god fearting major like the letters.
asciilifeform already there
mircea_popescu: damn you all to hell and eternal torment!
asciilifeform: but on unix we can't really have this conversation at all.
asciilifeform: anyway the reason to have a sane notion of text and glyphs is not so that coolies can write hieroglyphs but so that one can speak of mathematics.
mircea_popescu: just because bunches of barbarians "do without" the ablative doesn't mean they can fucking think in their pigdin
jurov: mircea_popescu: "ignore whitespaces" is half of the source alf posted me as example
mircea_popescu: this is not how things fgucking work. text means latin.
mircea_popescu: "oh, hurr, i kinda like the bible and my name is john smith".
mircea_popescu: and i will ritously say this is americanism at its finest. "oh, i like this girl, what need of her fambly ? we'll just live together under a blanked of sky, alone, like those two kids in the chinese myth!".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'text' is merely a subprogram for a program that displays glyphs. any other definition is braindamaged and will have to be paid for, again and again, until replaced with a sane one.
mircea_popescu: no matter how elegant the pretense can be made to appear.
mircea_popescu: this is entirely beyond the fucking point.
asciilifeform: and yes, this is bidirectional.
jurov: meh. i'll believe you both when you in the names of simplicity, shot "ignore whitespaces" too.
asciilifeform: one that fits will into the architecture of the machine.
mircea_popescu: and just because you can't see where this problem breaks shit down from where you sit doesn't mean it's not gonna. it will.
mircea_popescu: just because you can elegantly package idiocy in sexpr does not alter what text is
mircea_popescu: explain this to me. what the fuck is a "sane notion of text" ?
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 16:37:36; *: asciilifeform is l0lzing over how we are replacing the asciilifeform vs mircea_popescu debate on udp, with jurov playing the part of asciilifeform and asciilifeform playing the part of mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: text means a very specific thing. latin alphabet. nothing else. if you'd rather work with 文本, work with 文本.
mod6: asciilifeform thx for posting the MPI stuff.
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 15:32:52; jurov: i want diff to be usable for any text files, not just code
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312599 << unicode is not text. ☝︎
asciilifeform: actually it mostly ~is~ a closet. 99.999% of the cn code publicly known on the net (in any attributable way) is wincrud.
mircea_popescu: and it was important to separate the cowstumers from the coolies.
mircea_popescu: back then they still hoped china might be just a sort of magical closet.
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 15:09:58; asciilifeform: where do i meet all of these mythical people who own a computer, use gpg, but do not know enough english to operate it without this garbage ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312583 << the point is not that they exist. the point is that nsa decided cca 1990 that IN THE FUTURE tm/r it WANTS them to exist. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose the people who inform me also didn't think much of it.
asciilifeform: except that i'm not convinced that cryptome was ever a human thing
mircea_popescu: good for you, shows your ties to sanity are strong :D
asciilifeform expected mircea_popescu to make this observation.
mircea_popescu: an ufo chock full of partying alien sluts on alien spring break could ~easily~ land in brooklyn too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is a huge wall of fire between easily and probably.
mircea_popescu: b) they still hate assange.
mircea_popescu: a) they know the secret is out, so this candle is burning - gotta use it NOW for maximum impact
mircea_popescu: and that what they attempt to do with the recently stolen item is to try and muddy up wikileaks is, at least to my eyes informative.
mircea_popescu: as it is - cryptome is the whistlebreaking device.
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 14:21:34; asciilifeform: 'Wikileaks is not offering a search of Cryptome - the files are hosted on their server as a honeypot for snatching user data for who knows what. There are subtle sneaky differences that give it away...'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312574 << if the "there are subtle" were actually a specific list, i would be much more convinced. ☝︎
assbot: Loper OS » MPI sans the mud. ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0WdBf )
mircea_popescu: lol funny how this happens.
asciilifeform: and many anti-kudos to the authors of the package for making me do what i had to do.
mircea_popescu: what is this, capitalist merit ?
asciilifeform: kudos to mircea_popescu for supplying a blessed version of the package.
assbot: Loper OS » MPI sans the mud. ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0WdBf )
asciilifeform got tired, and,
mircea_popescu: actually as frustrating as it is, iirc there was always a good reason
asciilifeform: it ate my shit, for the 1,001th time.
asciilifeform: could you plz check turdatron ?
asciilifeform: phf: in case this wasn't obvious, i was not speaking of a ~literal~ return to v6 ☟︎
phf: actually i don't think v6 has threads
phf: could crosscompile the core, but openssl/boost, i don't even imagine the scope of that one
asciilifeform: therealbitcoin, as we have it, makes minimal use of gnarly unixisms. but its dependencies (incl. gcc and the toolchain) are another matter.
jurov: would bitcoin run on the lions book system?
asciilifeform: 'I'M JWZ AND I JUST WANT SHIT TO WURK!'
asciilifeform: every time you stick in the knife, somebody says 'NOOOOOO! this is NECESSARY complexity...!' ☟︎