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ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 20:37:02 asciilifeform: !Qlater tell mod6 you presently majority shareholder. asciilifeform -- minority. ( mp is owed and also rightfully has a say. ) let's discuss asap the lawsuit.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 10:35:25 mp_en_viaje: for instance, on basis of pizarro experience, mp currently thinks latam is a joke technologically, similarly.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943116 << it was, literally, a 2/3 scale model of u.s. wtc.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 09:50:44 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942651 << this is a thing we considered before even. the fundamental problem with it is that it's phd-assemblyline essentially, the work is worth 10 bux an hour but can only be done by like... one guy in the werld. i think it rather a pitfall.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 09:40:42 mp_en_viaje: what value does it generate ? is it a good deal for nsa, to trade half a bitcoin for a coupla used dc machines, even leaving aside how these eminently constitute what asciilifeform knows to be called "surplus", through the process he oft described in logs of buying stuff for pennies ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943075 << seems like mp intends on answering this q solely from own head. ( and relatedly asciilifeform would like to establish whether asciilifeform is , in eyes of mp, a human, or a tin soldier . )
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943068 << is person? or is mp_en_viaje, a pile of homeless irons, and a gagged asciilifeform tied to firing squad post ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 10:23:54 mp_en_viaje: "sure, most people specializing in serving breakfast for a fee can produce omlets in about ten minutes. but they start with a ready kitchen, which already contains eg eggs"
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943108 << I see your point. fwiw I'd be willing to give a chicken-finding discount once all is said and done
mp_en_viaje: but yes, obviously w'ere losing a window. having to start from scratch years later means we're starting in a more hostile enviroment, of course the internet is closing up etc.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943057 << what's the use of a dc that far ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 23:32:12 BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942223 << It's been a busy day, but thank you mp for asking if I forgot to issue thanks before
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 23:20:36 trinque: if indeed we're scuttling piz, BingoBoingo may have the hardware I sent on bv's run as a gift.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 22:19:47 mod6: And mentioned that if he wants to, he can stop by for a nomination to the co-chair.
mp_en_viaje: it's because you're a bunch of mangy old asses that are NEVER going to be asked to fly or spit fire.
mp_en_viaje: you'te not fucking apt for anything, if yo ucan't run a foundation, something any middle aged sad female abandoned by her offspring manages just fine, if you can't manage a cozy isp with a bunchload of friendl contracts, it's not because "you're dragons called to plough",
mp_en_viaje: first, make some real world shit work. then, MAYBE. though, honestly, i'd much rather have bitcoin work done by other people, while you spend the rest of your lives seling aluminum siding door to door and eating a machine sandwich each other day.
mp_en_viaje: it works just the fuck fine, and i wouldn't have a buncha morons that can't get a biplane off the ground touch it in any case.
mp_en_viaje: go, why not, retrace old ground, maybe you could start work on re-writing a lisp interpreter also. or who knows. something impractical in any case.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:58:34 mod6: There is a lot of work re: trb that does need to be done too. Another thing that was nagging at me... if we're to have a "university", we also need materials. And technical materials can be 'trb' coad itself; however, it might be cool to have an annotated source.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942922 << no danger of that. but yes, if we ever get a church we're gonna need some prettily carved steeple decorations eventually (or not), best set to it rightnow!
mp_en_viaje: sure, anytime someone;s ready to do some useful shit there's a shitton of useful shit that's needed.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:53:52 mod6: I would like to see trb carry-on indeed. Now, perhaps, more than ever, is needed as a check against wild shitcoiners out there.
mp_en_viaje: everything you do, each day, is meaningless and stays meaningless. you even understand this yourself, in [][a different compartment] of the stupid head.
mp_en_viaje: no foundation, no business, there may be a MINOR place for castrated bois on the farm, but it's in the barn not in the house.
mp_en_viaje: yes, it'd have been perfectly fine to say, YEAR+ AGO WHEN THIS CAME UP, "well mp, maybe we don't do other things, but we have a donations program that's growing an average 0.2% per month, predicated on building trb nodes, which we do built, at the rate of ~one per quarter".
mp_en_viaje: "oh, it'll be sad to not have a thing we don't have, to do things it didn't do anyway that i just argued i tshouldn't have been doing in any case".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:47:31 asciilifeform: incidentally i dun agree w/ mp's verdict that tbf is somehow broken (aside from 1 of the 2 chairs having gone awol.) charter reads, clearly, 'This charter establishes the existence of a virtual organization whose mission is to maintain the Bitcoin reference implementation.' this was carried out .
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942903 << because he has exactly none of the skillsets involved in running anything even remotely like a useful foundation, and no interest in acquiring them (or perhaps no capacity for acquiring them) as proven by years of practical measurements.
mp_en_viaje: (btw : Fayetteville State University is 2/3 female, and worst crime rate in the state. because that's what happens when you mix inclusivity with female-friendliness, you build a rape shack.)
mp_en_viaje: you know what stanford's charter is ? here : "First, the Nature, Object, and Purposes of the Institution Hereby Founded, to Be: Its nature, that of a university with such seminaries of learning as shall make it of the highest grade, including mechanical institutes, museums, galleries of art, laboratories, and conservatories, together with all things necessary for the study of agriculture in all its branches, and for mechanical train
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:47:31 asciilifeform: incidentally i dun agree w/ mp's verdict that tbf is somehow broken (aside from 1 of the 2 chairs having gone awol.) charter reads, clearly, 'This charter establishes the existence of a virtual organization whose mission is to maintain the Bitcoin reference implementation.' this was carried out .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 13:54:38 mp_en_viaje: the end result of "null-routed ip space for half a day whenever someone decides to spend 10 bux on '''ddos'''" is reproducible via 50 dubaloos/month in hand of any rando nobody/scammer off sitepoint forums ; no need to buy whole c blocks if they just null-route by the c-block like inconceivab
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:22:28 asciilifeform: we are to set a proper standard, imho, for seppuku.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942868 << this'd be a great outcome, as far as such are available, defo.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:18:06 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd rather not put those on a heathen hoster, but let's ask the affected folx 1st.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:17:35 asciilifeform: mod6: currently i'm thinking, we do not need 'liquidator' a la bbet. we, ourselves, can properly play the orchestra as the ship goes down.
mp_en_viaje: they can suck it up and like it very much, or else drop the "corporate policy" and start sucking cock, whatever comes first.
mp_en_viaje: be that as it may : one particularly inept internet provider in costa rica (whom i suspect by now is just a local-dressup verizon or coxco or somesuch rural midwestern bs) failed to deliver to spec ; were warned to either immediately remedy or else (which they ignored) ; were ordered to close the contract (which they claimed they did) ; sent a further bill, which was returned with lolz (they responded by pointing out that contract c
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:10:14 BingoBoingo: On some level once the auditions to see if any lawyers are hungrier than present counsel are concluded, if a suit isn't feasible counsel may be necessary to cleanly send the contract to /dev/null should latecho get combative
mp_en_viaje: every time im talking to you about anything touching business it's like talking to a literary character.
mp_en_viaje: just how, HOW the fuck does the noggin work on your shoulders, dude ? you think paying a coupla grand a month for dc pipe is maxint while you think dc hardware you carried through customs at great expense and is locally irreplaceable has no resale value, you think lawyers will be cheap while you don't pay lawyers that were cheap, you think lawyers could help you but lawyers with proven track record of helping you ~screamingly~ misma
mp_en_viaje: i seem to recall this other attorney that didn't charge megabux (in fact, like a hundy or so per month) that i've surprise-discovered in your wake and on which you've been owin me for like a year now. i'm starting to think it'll get discharged "for cost of postage" also, just as soon as i'm ready ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942832 << wtf sense does this make ? you'll buy it "for cost of postage" and nsa will buy boxes for quarter btc a pop ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942824 << really ?! whenever i needed something there, it was either at a premium on their local shitlist (mercado something) or else (more commonly) not even available, had to be courriered in.
mp_en_viaje: nothing wrong with talking to a local legal guy, see what he says in any case.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 20:37:02 asciilifeform: !Qlater tell mod6 you presently majority shareholder. asciilifeform -- minority. ( mp is owed and also rightfully has a say. ) let's discuss asap the lawsuit.
mp_en_viaje: but, the feelings of idiots should be hurt as a matter of course.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942800 << certainly. a good time to threaten, "if you don't pay me now you'll have to pay 2x + legal fees in a few months, and i will take out newspaper publicity on your name,"
mp_en_viaje: could be a good idea for isps of the future to keep ~weight~ accouintancy as well. you never know.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 18:32:02 asciilifeform: 'lately spring broke, from cold, / like from prison, once more, / by mistake once i let out a word: / 'friend, leave a little to smoke!' / silence -- was all i heard, as he never returned from the war.'
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942759 << "A spring broke loose today, from frost like from jail. In the confusion I called out -- "old friend, leave the smoke!". But the answer came silent, as yesterday's spring never returned from the war. " rather.
mp_en_viaje: then of course the fantasy becomes unsustainable once school starts, so they acquire as a bonus on the side all the desocialization brought by being morosely aloof and ineptly derpy instead of vital. and from there on... you got pretty much the whole enchilada, aged 10 or so the boi's already useless, THROUGH TRAINING. and will likely stay useless his whole lfie.
mp_en_viaje: in fact, i currently suspect the principal avenue through which the marginally retarded / autistic "engineer" bois of contemporaneity are built is through parents ineptly failing to recognize these children's preference for non-interrupting as a disease symptom, and catering to it.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942736 << it's approx what i do. though still interrupted, which is the principal function of the harem in fact. but i'll point out that it is fallacy of naive linear extension to imagine "3, 4, 10, 100 days" works quite like that. yes uninterrupted slots are good, but not experimentaly useful past a few hours. yes the knowledge, certified by experience, that "can get back to this wh
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 17:34:46 asciilifeform: they were thought to be untrainable. but turned out that erry cat had a performance that he's willingly do. was matter of finding.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 17:32:01 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol naturally, can't have broken lamps!111 or smudged floor! who needs a working cable!1111
mp_en_viaje: for instance, on basis of pizarro experience, mp currently thinks latam is a joke technologically, similarly.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, all im saying is, have a ready sheet somewhere.
mp_en_viaje: and the whole delco assemblage for it seems to be a single internally represented bit. whether he feels like he can do it / it could be done / should be done / the priests approve, nfi.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942714 << yes, he's a 2-takt engine, dither and do. in the do phase he's pretty good, but in the dither phase he's phenomenal.
mp_en_viaje: it's not even untenable to pay a little extra for it, i guess.
mp_en_viaje: "sure, most people specializing in serving breakfast for a fee can produce omlets in about ten minutes. but they start with a ready kitchen, which already contains eg eggs"
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942688 << yes, we are saying the same thing here. "insane" as in extremely large, "nine months is an insane interval to make an omlet". "well... first i gotta find a chicken"
mp_en_viaje: (this is a literalism : it is likely caesar's original target, to "plunder something and get out of debt" was dacia not gaul ; but dacia too strong for him at the time)
mp_en_viaje: i don't expect they will, but why not match idiocy with idiocy ? every time they send an ill thought out, wetware-shannonized piece of idiocy about how "hey, would you like to be a twerking wigger slave on my internet lulzcow farm" ??? you send one right back.
diana_coman: for extra lulz had some swiss guys too: I asked them 4 questions even numbered; they took 1 day to come back with a reply that sort-of and without referencing, covered maybe 2; I replied and pointed out that an aswer that doesn't answer makes for funny reading so will they answer questions 1 and 4 now? they came back answering only 1.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, maybe the right move here is to construct a little counter, you know ? "i'd like to use your services, this is what you have to do".
mp_en_viaje: this is what they do, what they all do : "hey, would you like to be a twerking wigger slave on my internet lulzcow farm" ???
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: actually I woke up to a bunch of emails saying "you do need an account BUT no need to fill in any info really, just email plz"
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942651 << this is a thing we considered before even. the fundamental problem with it is that it's phd-assemblyline essentially, the work is worth 10 bux an hour but can only be done by like... one guy in the werld. i think it rather a pitfall.
mp_en_viaje: more importantly, what the fuck, we paid DC prices to rent machines so that pizarro could have a book, now we also buy them back so pizarro doesn't have a downside ? what the fuck is this, training for failure ?
mp_en_viaje: what value does it generate ? is it a good deal for nsa, to trade half a bitcoin for a coupla used dc machines, even leaving aside how these eminently constitute what asciilifeform knows to be called "surplus", through the process he oft described in logs of buying stuff for pennies ?
mp_en_viaje: it did not work for the original latino whores ; it did not work for dpb, "oh, ima call myself a republican but really, what i'm interested in is remarkably stupid sterlie shit". not worked for phf idem exactly, and will not work fucking generally.
mp_en_viaje: it's not "s.nsa is a thing for as long as i can carry on doing what i fucking feel like i doing, but should that become untenable it can just dissipate into thin air".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:58:34 mod6: There is a lot of work re: trb that does need to be done too. Another thing that was nagging at me... if we're to have a "university", we also need materials. And technical materials can be 'trb' coad itself; however, it might be cool to have an annotated source.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942922 - certainly need materials and yes, I think mod6 would do a great job annotating the trb code and generally getting it moving again.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 22:13:30 asciilifeform: mod6: incidentally imho diana_coman 1) understands it about as well as asciilifeform 2) is a+++ pedagogue .
asciilifeform asked for quotes in a dc in darkest afri^H^H^H^Hbaltimore. will see what comes out.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: One last thing. We had a neighbor installed later than us. That rack is now all air dams without boxes.
BingoBoingo to take a short walk with the back unloaded before turning in.
asciilifeform: oh neat, ty trinque . will depend on how much folx weigh. may have to do 1-2 at a time.
BingoBoingo: trinque: working on a place to put tarballs. If you have a place you want me to sftp it, I can GPGgram my ssh pubkey
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He's got two crematory type disks and to spinning rusts along with a spare spinning rust
asciilifeform: there's a crematory list
BingoBoingo: trinque: Not as bad as Sunday. It's a different stress, but its been a fairly productive stress.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942223 << It's been a busy day, but thank you mp for asking if I forgot to issue thanks before
trinque: I'd like a final backup of my uy1 web dir, blog and w/e else is in there.
trinque: if indeed we're scuttling piz, BingoBoingo may have the hardware I sent on bv's run as a gift.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1942856 << in my case, I *think* I have all the backups I need. I had the presence of mind to run my backup script of auctionbot data and blog dump when I logged in for final time. There is always a chance I forgot something or dump is corrupt, etc. Will find out in the coming days once heathen replacement comes online
lobbes: asciilifeform: main reason for not wanting to host it on usg box is mainly because logger is also running on there and a) don't want too many eggs in one basket and b) don't want too many things interfacing with same postgres database (since actionbot is on top of logbot which also logs every line, and I dunno if this will slow things down or what. I like the idea of segregating them in this sense)
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1942833 << btw, I've snagged another leased server from some singapore heathen hoster. Once they provision the thing and give login info then auctionbot will live again. However, if it is desperately needed in the meantime I can slap it up on the usg hoster as a stop-gap measure
asciilifeform: imho it was a much better 'have-read' world to play in head with, than 'to-read' per se, 1 of those.
mod6: Was previously actually looking for a Kynes quote...
asciilifeform: perhaps he still has a pulse, might answer.
mod6: And mentioned that if he wants to, he can stop by for a nomination to the co-chair.
asciilifeform: i do not know whether diana_coman is still taking people into her school, but for a ffa n00b it is imho a very desirable school.
asciilifeform: mod6: incidentally imho diana_coman 1) understands it about as well as asciilifeform 2) is a+++ pedagogue .
asciilifeform: for a novel 'trbi' is entirely uninteresting what or how did fucking openssl.
asciilifeform: but again this is only interesting if one's building a '100% trb-compat' in e.g. ada.