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asciilifeform: diana_coman: compare w/fix vs. your current to see the diff.
asciilifeform: see lobbes's article re where .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: bug was specifically in /log-raw , rather than db (which iirc you ate wholesale, and then manually synced coupla lines during the interval remained )
asciilifeform: ( and apparently when diana_coman synced, got lucky, there were no 'actions' )
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman
asciilifeform: diana_coman i recommend to read & emplace this one, so lobbes & asciilifeform can resync from your /log-raw : the old export mechanism was apparently broken in the case of 'action' lines.
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! lobbes , diana_coman , et al : reader.py on dulap updated to lobbes's raw-export-fix. vtree page updated w/ lobbes patch and lobbes , asciilifeform , sigs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: net pipe
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on 3w : smartctl -a -d 3ware,x /dev/twa0 (where x is the hose #)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we'll snapshot the os a la dulap/smg so can be done reasonably quickly, when disk goes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you want 100% striped (vs. e.g. 2x mirrored 2x striped ) i still recommend to think about how will back up such box. with the current pipe, backing up remotely e.g. 4TB, will take ~week (and that's if entire population of piz is idling)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 12:32:09 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-12#1935775 << not that you asked me, but atm the better is to do both of these and report findings.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 07:37:18 mircea_popescu: (yes, believe it or not, i ran a "all films reviewed on trilema" server for like... a year. to see if anything interesting happens. major pipe and everything, came to high four figures all told, mostly hardware, soem sweat to get it up.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i expect you'll want mechanical disks for this item. lemme know the types , will procure'em ( when the crate is flown, mircea_popescu will have 2 own boxen, the current smg , and its spare ; piz will have the 2 vacated boxen, which mircea_popescu can either purchase or lease , lemme know which prefer . ea. takes up to 4 disks . )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: atm we still have 'kolhoz' bandwidth, i.e. 'all you can eat', but i expect if we put up an image paster it'll saturate the pipe 100% . ( naturally if mircea_popescu wants to make arrangements to get monster pipe specially for this experiment, i'ma work with him to make it go. but promises to be costly. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he has some entirely good translations of ru texts. i ran into 1 piece where he has a 17th c. snippet, properly translated.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 06:21:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this acceptabru on ye pizarro ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 04:14:57 mircea_popescu: in other greats outside the walls : https://www.jassa.org/?p=10723 << this dude ~actually sourced~ an extremely rare (online, it is in the basic toolkit of any serious medievalist, excellent late 1800s edition bei Boretius/Krause (BK)) source (Inquisitio de theloneis Raffelstettensis, BK 253) and then translated it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 16:45:11 mircea_popescu: 37^4 = 1874161, no way anyone's doing 2mn pastes/week
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/raw_line_fixkvvpatch/ << lobbesblog -- raw_line_fix.kv.vpatch
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:56:17 diana_coman: from your paste though, I suspect it's mainly that you missed that part of the README where it says months as NUMBERS.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orig lul re subj
asciilifeform: speaking of kalash, mircea_popescu what's this i hear re iliescu (ro eltsin) being tried in absentia for orchestrating the demise of shoemaker ?
asciilifeform: no one will ever say ' mircea_popescu is not consistent ' .
snsabot: Logged on 2017-04-09 18:03:45 mircea_popescu: dozenpeopleeighteenmonths!!!
mircea_popescu: i expect diana_coman 's stable will soon enough surpass all the supposed "utility" you hallucinate in the anal children (much like a demented old hoarder hallucinates "utility" in random junk) ; much like trilema in fact surpassed any whisperer's monument, "against odds" etce
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:53:01 mircea_popescu: it'll solve all the world's problems regardless : either through zeroing, or else through solving.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:30:19 asciilifeform: trinque: 2-3 moar 'wins' like this and what will be left , will be mircea_popescu writing his memoirs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: some historians iirc convinced that newton's cock literally did not work
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i knew the window story as a boy and always it was part of why respected newton.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm, so kinda like lazar kaganovich in stalin's orcistan ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 10:45:07 mp_en_viaje: this is also true, as a broad trend. it is unfortunate but true that the inept king prefers crossbowmen over archers, because archers take lifetime to train and dedication from puberty to craft, whereas crossbow can be operated by... outsourced labour. it takes a certain sort of short-sightedness to not notice the implicit band-of-brothers vs [http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-07-12#1833989][your own nob
snsabot: Logged on 2019-04-17 15:31:05 a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 17:50 mircea_popescu: basically, all the architecture systems architects have managed yet to produce is the equivalent of "we need 10.1k builders - 100 to build and 10k to hold up the walls once we're done".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, the finns ran iron-cum-sails clippers all the way into 1920s.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if a hypothetical phylloxera-for-horses had hit in 1800, would, imho, have been problem.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-12-17 00:05:49 mircea_popescu: i was using "continuous" to people's confused disbelief. apparently continuous just means "has value for all x in interval"
snsabot: Logged on 2017-12-17 00:04:18 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you say "function that has derivate in every point" in englisch ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:29:16 asciilifeform: trinque: obv. mircea_popescu's (and for that matter anyone's) ratings are b/w him and odin. but imho to present the disappearance of phf as some kinda win, is disingenuous at best .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how's the net pipe in that 15th c castle ?
asciilifeform waves to mircea_popescu
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:37:58 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935205 << where is the leucosys threshold in diana_coman's view?
bvt: asciilifeform: today i had a quick look through stevens, apparently timeout for SO_KEEPALIVE is two hours (digging through linux source confirms), so i don't think this option is any useful as is; TCP_KEEPIDLE sets the keepalive timeout per-socket, but then there is a question to which extent to rely on all of these socket options.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 22:55:05 trinque: as of now, I've retired ben_vulpes' paster in favor of my own.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:15:54 mircea_popescu: the obverse of that "oh, stalin got tupolev back out of dungeon" coin is that BEFORE getting itno dungeon, cis-tupolev, the whole half million of them, had ONE DAMNED GOOD reason to get out of bed in the morning. "holy shit it's gonna happen to me", terror works. on short stretches at a time, but works.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:14:53 mircea_popescu: but yes, the ~one~ good (unintentional, and unaware, but neither of this matters) 2nd order effect of attempted socialism is that in the mid phase it shook the complacency out of people.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:11:58 mircea_popescu: here they sat, same #trilema as today, and preened, like these do. nothing came of it, and then one day i showed up and kicked them all out.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:53:39 mircea_popescu: as i tell the slavegirls "when they most need my support", "do or fucking die ; and i don't particularly care which the fuck it is."
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: no, i actually buy your summary, 'd00d wouldn't fucking talk'. but i'm also willing to ask ~why~ didn't talk ? maybe because erry time he opened the door, there was a beating behind it ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: changed how ? grow extra pair of hands ? a tree-proof arse ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to properly colour in this picture -- what would have looked like 'engage beyond the technical' ?
asciilifeform: evidently asciilifeform has diff. reading from diana_coman , of the 'clear' .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: for my enlightenment, plox to summarize, in own words, 'how phf lost his epaulettes' .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and if yer about to say 'the fact that phf said 10 words in that many months' at one pt same was tru of e.g. trinque . and i suspect if deedbot had been the bot that fell for a week, we'd be having exactly same thread about trinque instead of phf .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the trigger for the entire episode. was the loss of the logger .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:35:55 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935445 << yes, and look how beautifully sabotage-y ~highly intelligent~ idiotic misbehaviour actually is : if i wasn't me, but slightly less of a me such as to not notice the problem and get carried away emotionally, we'd have a fine problem on our hands, through having ruined an imp
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:23:16 mircea_popescu: and to properly bolster the fundaments of the foregoing terror -- it DPOES NOT MATTER whether one actually was, deliberately, working for the enemy. from my pov, phf is not "merely an idiot", but very well saboteur anon describes NOT because he actually is, but because... again, guy found with smoking gun next to dead president is hanged, [http
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i am working from mircea_popescu's verdict strictly.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what detail, in your eyes important, am i neglecting ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if expectation is that logging is a 24/7/365 system -- then yes ought to be obv. that it aint a job for 1 set of hands. rather than 'let's put it in 1 hands for years and then say 'saboteur' when he falls down' .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:26:02 mircea_popescu: and so this is what happened there, the complete story : he did ~just what a saboteur would do~, because look how fucking wunderbar=ly it'd have sabotaged if it worked ; and a less-than-divine mp easily would've gotten fucked over it. so now -- we can never be friends again, i ain't getting over that.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:53:41 diana_coman: you can restrict their access to the danger, but you can't fence in the danger "for your safety and security"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:17:15 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935442 << tjhere's a thread re micro/macro economy and a discussion of money in its dual aspect somewhere but i can't take the time to find it for you right nao, leaving for hunedoara castle in about five minutes. we can revisit this in weekend though, ping me.
a111: Logged on 2014-04-06 06:17 mircea_popescu: there's two kinds of money see ? money-%, like btc. that's the money used by the people who allocate resources.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 02:26:02 mircea_popescu: and so this is what happened there, the complete story : he did ~just what a saboteur would do~, because look how fucking wunderbar=ly it'd have sabotaged if it worked ; and a less-than-divine mp easily would've gotten fucked over it. so now -- we can never be friends again, i ain't getting over that.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:53:41 diana_coman: you can restrict their access to the danger, but you can't fence in the danger "for your safety and security"
asciilifeform: diana_coman: let's reformulate. it takes a very long time to produce 1st class people. (as a pedagogue, you know this.) if they burn up faster than they are produced -- this is a problem.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:21:49 mircea_popescu: imagine, all this flurry of exciting new development could have been occuring in 2017, if i had the sense to kick phf out on his rear in 2017, rather than let him sit his dumb ass on us for two years.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:01:10 diana_coman: but it seems it took "diana_coman;is" as nick?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 23:53:06 lobbes: I'm willing to patch one or the other (should be a quick fix). Now... the question is which one? The converter, the raw-dumper, or should the eat_dump.py be able to handle BOTH formats?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-10 06:25:00 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935311 - your znc2tmsr converter; I made initially the same mistake with mine, here's the thread re standard: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927457
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:08:43 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935332 << diana_coman, could you provide me a small snippet of your irssi log that you fed into your irssi2tmsr converter (with both an "action line" and "regular line" example)?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:05:56 trinque: asciilifeform: and you know, to take the other side of the leucosys thing, this is mircea_popescu's hall. he didn't ban anyone from yours, or mine.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:40:47 diana_coman: what I can't quite get in all this is why is asciilifeform fighting mircea_popescu's leucocite-qualities so much and at every occasion?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:53:35 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935205 << where is the leucosys threshold in diana_coman's view?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 06:43:33 mircea_popescu: in any case, the net's been thoroughly scrubbed : http://il.php.net/get/php-4.4.8.tar.bz2/from/us.php.net/mirror no longer works (they even redirected the old /get/ directory to the manual now) ; the downloads studiously only includes the (entirely useless) 7 series. even lulzy spamsites a la http://www.oldapps.com/php_programming_language.php?old_php=13 are dead (the frontend works, but the [http://download.ol
dorion: 2a. The config.guess and config.sub files for bdb were taken directly from the links in the configuration error message : http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=config.git;a=blob_plain;f=config.guess;hb=HEAD ; http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=config.git;a=blob_plain;f=config.sub;hb=HEAD
dorion: 1. I used the buildroot menuconfig to produce a rotor_buildroot_aarch64_dot_config.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-26 10:17:04 dorion: ty mp_en_viaje I am Robinson Dorion, the someone BingoBoingo mentioned had inquired about the rk. Plan is to sync a trb node there.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935482 << iirc mircea_popescu warned about this (and apparently was right) : the coupla folx in #a, already would not do when mircea_popescu asked ; why would they do when asciilifeform asks, who isn't famous hero, has no millions, no harems, nothing in particular that forces recalcitrant folx to stand up. so far the output of the #a people is the predicted 0.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-11 03:57:39 trinque: iirc mircea_popescu met phf irl, didn't like him, and that was that
asciilifeform: trinque: for that matter, there ain't a spare mircea_popescu either. observe that nobody else knows how to strip the valence electrons from folx like phf and make'em usefully react. none of the burnouts are doing anyffin worth note in e.g. #a .
asciilifeform: trinque: my contention wasn't that it was somehow work for mircea_popescu to nurse'em back to health (how?)
trinque: iirc mircea_popescu met phf irl, didn't like him, and that was that
trinque: I mean, it's empire-shaped thinking to say mircea_popescu should consult with you and whomever else on who he likes.
trinque: why doesn't asciilifeform have a relationship with phf independent of mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform: trinque: 2-3 moar 'wins' like this and what will be left , will be mircea_popescu writing his memoirs.
asciilifeform: trinque: obv. mircea_popescu's (and for that matter anyone's) ratings are b/w him and odin. but imho to present the disappearance of phf as some kinda win, is disingenuous at best .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:21:49 mircea_popescu: imagine, all this flurry of exciting new development could have been occuring in 2017, if i had the sense to kick phf out on his rear in 2017, rather than let him sit his dumb ass on us for two years.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:50:19 trinque: asciilifeform: and you know, to take the other side of the leucosys thing, this is mircea_popescu's hall. he didn't ban anyone from yours, or mine.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:01:10 diana_coman: but it seems it took "diana_coman;is" as nick?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 23:53:06 lobbes: I'm willing to patch one or the other (should be a quick fix). Now... the question is which one? The converter, the raw-dumper, or should the eat_dump.py be able to handle BOTH formats?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-10 06:25:00 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935311 - your znc2tmsr converter; I made initially the same mistake with mine, here's the thread re standard: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927457
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935332 << diana_coman, could you provide me a small snippet of your irssi log that you fed into your irssi2tmsr converter (with both an "action line" and "regular line" example)?
trinque: asciilifeform: and you know, to take the other side of the leucosys thing, this is mircea_popescu's hall. he didn't ban anyone from yours, or mine.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 08:31:54 mircea_popescu: that's how economy works at the scale here discussed, "and if you don't like it, get ready for valleyforge -- if you got it in you".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:40:47 diana_coman: what I can't quite get in all this is why is asciilifeform fighting mircea_popescu's leucocite-qualities so much and at every occasion?
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935205 << where is the leucosys threshold in diana_coman's view?
trinque: as of now, I've retired ben_vulpes' paster in favor of my own.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i expected answer 'as audiophiles(tm)' but sure