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kakobrekla: i used to get invited to slaughtering, attended once.
kakobrekla: which reminds me, i might get some to try to make kefir at home
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla: same here, save milk, for which the raw unpasteurised variety is de facto illegal here
asciilifeform: ^ this is sop and it is how they typically bust 1,001 'tor onion' boxes after popping ~one~
kakobrekla: could also get milk but i dont use it that much.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, i could confirm the story that there've been a bunch of stolen servers all through ukr / poland / baltics, "opperation
asciilifeform: l0l looks like mr plug puller from phuctor finally found his way there
mircea_popescu: fancy that!
mircea_popescu: ok so. the story, after what was it, 4 days downtime, once the dude finally came back, is, and i quote, "ok I fixed it. give it about 20 minutes". whereupon at my inquiry trhat what was wrong wit hit ?! the response came that "it was turned off for some reason".
asciilifeform: iirc cazalla had a tale about chinese strawberries in australia
punkman: pete_dushenski: not same profits to be made around here, but people do try to pass of shitty imports as local produce
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 15:24:00; asciilifeform: for some reason i am reminded of 'farmer's market' sc4mz0rz who load up on monsanto garbage at the big box shop and then resell 'organic tomatoez!!111' to chumpers
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1327028 << sad sounding farmer's markets. must be an american thing. or non-breadbasketlandia thing. ☝︎
asciilifeform: punkman: aha, i had the doug lenat scans OCR'd on some weird proprietary shitware
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 14:54:55; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1326906 no, no, allow me to give you a grandiose anecdote to go with that! so, mp spends 6-700 euro to get new servers at internoc24.com which is supposedly the flagship of the entire "offshore hosting" "industry". in exchange for which payment, the following conversation ensues : http://dpaste.com/1HP9QY2
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1326937 << i thought this sorta said it all. ☝︎
asciilifeform: or just about anything technical
asciilifeform: problem is that ocr is not so hot for maths
asciilifeform: only thing i ever really tried was t
punkman: also, is there anything other than tesseract?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo and understand, we're not even talking "server" aka 10 bux a month. or "cheap vps". or even dedicated. we're talking guy who walks in, orders 3 boxes, pays cash. and there they sit babbling. << I know seriously what the fuck is these people's allergy to money
asciilifeform: right after you put on a new tape bobbin & back up, no ?
mircea_popescu: in a sec ima recount the story of this
pete_dushenski: 'The seat is only suitable for children greater than 37 inches tall, weighing between 35 and 77 pounds'
mircea_popescu: in other news, trilema is back on, believe it or not.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1326888 << i don't actually ocr my scans, ever. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://static1.consumerreportscdn.org/etc/designs/news-archive/cars/2013/03/Tesla-Model-S-third-row-seat.jpg << tesla 'jump' seats, for kulak children up to age ~9.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and understand, we're not even talking "server" aka 10 bux a month. or "cheap vps". or even dedicated. we're talking guy who walks in, orders 3 boxes, pays cash. and there they sit babbling.
pete_dushenski: (tesla model s has two rear-facing 'jump' seats)
pete_dushenski: "officer, those bad people put CHILDREN in their car's TRUNK!"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so now tell me a little more about ddos and basic bojums and whatnot. << Fuck there isn't even a business of datacenter
assbot: Tesla Model S problem with the police - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1SHWzHR )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'do not believe those who say 'all the world is shit.' for there also exists piss.' -- my grandfather
mircea_popescu: what the fuck isn't a fucking gag.
asciilifeform: '5pc of respondents even reported suffering from "menstrual cramps"' << this has gotta be a gag
assbot: Quarter of men believe they have 'man periods' ... ( http://bit.ly/1PCbOEl )
asciilifeform: punkman: i bust my gut from the lulz re: how when cn deals with its vermin there is neverending whine re: 'cruel oppressive dictatorial bootz!11111'
mircea_popescu: believe it or not there still is some west tecvh they've not fully disassembled yet.
asciilifeform: what moves ~from~ rotterdam to shanghai ?
mircea_popescu: and then it will be 200, and then 100, and then you simply won't be able to get a container there. at all. ☟︎
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punkman: speaking of boats, "Prices to move a 40-foot container from Rotterdam to Shanghai drop to $300"
mircea_popescu: you think i'm speaking of westardian genocide + mass rape cause overactive imagination ?
mircea_popescu: what, you think the redskins got exterminated because people hated niggers ?
mircea_popescu: burn the orcs, rape their women, stgart over.
asciilifeform: suddenly it's 1000 ad and you gotta own the castle again, and the staff
mircea_popescu: that's how commerce works. unavoidably, and to great benefit.
asciilifeform: and closed-form solutions are scarce in our universe, i hear they live in another one where platonic triangles fuck platonic circles
mircea_popescu: "i don't own the boat but the merchandise within"
mircea_popescu: the very thing of being a merchant is, that you enter into deals.
asciilifeform: the soil of the beloved motherland, aha, but peasant.
asciilifeform: meatwotty enough and you're a peasant working the soil
asciilifeform: aha, the good old meatwot problem
mircea_popescu: that's the bitch here. there is no closed form solution.
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 14:59:18; mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> or, if you prefer the alternative formulation, http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-11-09.log.html#t04:28:25
mircea_popescu: this is very good, patrimonially. the drawback however is, it's very bad, sartorially.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla do you own the building you live in ?
kakobrekla: its like having money in the bank? is it your bank? no? its not your money.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ANYTHING would be proof that. anything. just as long as done by human.
asciilifeform: they weren't nuke-proof, no. but they ~were~ 'oops, i'm an orc and forgot to pay the bills at the place i secretly resell you'-proof.
mircea_popescu: you're looking at about 1.5bn investment to make a competitive one.
asciilifeform: unlike a hydro plant, a dc is this thing that, at its practical minimum, costs what maybe 2 or 3 passenger buses do. serious corps run their own. most of my past employers had their critical infrastructure in some variant of own, non-leveraged in-house dc
mircea_popescu: for one thing, most everyone works with a list of dc approved suppliers anyway.
mircea_popescu: whether they bought their own box and colocated it, or rented a precolocated one from dc is a very fine point.
mircea_popescu: punkman in practical terms ownership of capital goods is very messy. you think gm owns the equipment in gm plant ? as what, outright ? mno.
mircea_popescu: they run the technical side, marketing has got to be wholesaled out.
asciilifeform: for some reason i am reminded of 'farmer's market' sc4mz0rz who load up on monsanto garbage at the big box shop and then resell 'organic tomatoez!!111' to chumpers ☟︎
kakobrekla: if you dont controll the building , you dont control the server
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not anymore than "Someone somewhere actually runs hydro plant".
punkman: could also read as "they pretend they have own hardware"
mircea_popescu: no but seriously, this is the job, what.
asciilifeform: 'only the ancients could build temples, all we know how to do is take shits in'em'
mircea_popescu: i thought they shat the shoes out!
mircea_popescu: what the fuck would you expect them do, build dcs ?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why this would be a discovery or anythning. this is the business.
asciilifeform: 'They just resell servers from various other datacenters but appear as if they have their own hardware' << this may well be true. very common scamatron, arse-mouth system.
mircea_popescu: like that's what i want from life ;/
mircea_popescu: is that i actually make money with these stupid shits.
mircea_popescu: the despicable, miserable, filthy truth in here
punkman: let's see if they ask you take log down
punkman: "We dont receive any answer so we have temp. shutdown the VPS. The VPS would be unblocked after the wrong Review is deleted."
mircea_popescu: iirc there was one on bitbet there too.
mircea_popescu: punkman that site is a known blackmail op.
mircea_popescu: all etas now upgraded to "basic bojum" level.
asciilifeform: punkman: just as a mortgaged house - sure. but then all the victim gets is just another debt collector after him
mircea_popescu: they can but the lease co gets it back, fines you.
punkman: can they seize leased car?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: many, but the car is typically a museum piece
asciilifeform: the linked article mentioned cops searching pockets and taking as little as 100 usd. and this was meant to provoke outrage, but typical reader quite likely went 'what kind of monster walks around with 100 bill'
mircea_popescu: this myth that usians own cars is laughable.
asciilifeform: punkman: the car is typically either an old rust bucket or deeply creditatronic
asciilifeform: what can a cop take from the typical american, other than anal virginity ?
asciilifeform: not entirely off subj, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1326848 >> i've begun to suspect that most u.s. folk who know about the police looting are ~in favour~. thinkaboutit: they have no assets to steal. ergo 'those bloody kulaks deserve'. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and so now you have the whole planet poisoned.
mircea_popescu: exactly. so what happens next ? a) they show up for work and b) the only work they can do is star in movies, where unfortunate thirld worlders suffer the horrible fate of having their ancestral knowledge passed down at great expense that "white man good, you scum" married to the fact that deep down in his entrails he feels like this is a great thing!
asciilifeform: 'Some data centers in Ukraine had a raid this week and we dont receive the information in time to set the offers out of stock.' << any idea if this is true ?
asciilifeform: where literally this happens.
asciilifeform: the 'unionize out of class' thing is horrifyingly real. in usa we have a custom of 'grade on a curve'
asciilifeform: prolongs the agony
mircea_popescu: it's dumb-dumb : the phds pay the rents, the scum gets to keep the pretense going