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mircea_popescu: possibly all
the
trouble since
then entirely rests on mp's pathologically complex misunderstanding of what
that original guy actually meant.\
mircea_popescu: ironically, my foray into bitcoin was started by random guy on
the internet [at
the
time hadn't used irc at all in decade +] insisting i move into his "GPG" castle.
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, is
the aspirational 2nd eigen state for "art", as hoped-for by various [failed, necessarily] artistes
throughout
the ages.)
mircea_popescu: phf except people on a regular basis DO share others' castles in
the sky. it's just
that
they don't happen
to be
the very castles people hold most dear.
mircea_popescu: armies move because of
the interplay of production and consumption.
talk
to
the
traders.
phf: castle in
the sky visions.
phf: seems like conversation goes back
to
tomb raiding for books
thread. can go and write code according
to hyperspec, or vhdl a lispmachine, or whatever, but from b-a perspective
the symbolics world of professional men deliberately solving problems with
their lisp repl does not exist outside of
the log, is superseded by
the log. ultimately it's pretty pointless
to point at a handful of sources and specs and expect others
to share your
mircea_popescu: exactly. sort-of like
trying
to achieve military results by "asking
the
troops".
mircea_popescu: ironially, "programmers
themselves" play exactly no part in all of
this.
mircea_popescu: now, js.1 is how it's sold
to users ; but js.2 is why it's appealing
to business. and for a long
time - really, as long as rsm seemed
to have
teeth -
this appeared
to
them (understandably) as a required pontoon bridge
to have, jic.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect
the
thing with js is like so : it has
two eigenstates. js.1 is "well, kinda useful
to do some
tasks browsewr side". as exemplified by say
the
trilema
text select
thing. way cheaper
to do
that client side
than server side. js.2 however is "deploy code you can update yourself". ie, no need
to ask people
to update it for you.
mircea_popescu: btcdrak next we're going
to follow what
the solidcoin guy says ? who's next, atlas ?
taaki ?
btcdrak: 3 months after release of XT,
there 1 block out of 1000 mined.
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 20:55:55; gabriel_laddel: I sunk a lot of
time into it (and got it working) only
to realize
that I don't want
to javascript no matter how s-expressiony it is.
shinohai: Shout out
to btcdrak who was shilling for OP_HODL a few days back
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << l0l, meta-google has
the real people ? << Meta Google actually seems
to exist
BingoBoingo: <trinque> aw come now, I go mad
twice daily << Gotta up
the duration and intensity. If you aren't spending at least a week in an insane state you aren't doing it right
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 22:18:34; mircea_popescu: let bezos headhunt
them and die, sort of logic.
mircea_popescu: anyway, asciilifeform,
the objection is not
to
the "word problem" abstraction cast over
the world. it's with
the apparent expectation
this does something
to
the world.
that's all.
trinque: aw come now, I go mad
twice daily
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, do not expect
they operate IN
THE WORLD!
mircea_popescu: yea,
this is
the
thing with psychic defenses :
they are not optional, but necessary.
mircea_popescu: in
the immortal words of
that short, brunette scion of
the wealthy dreyfuss fambly (hey, almost like
the rothschilds, ok ?) "Ohh.. right. Cause if we're dating, what everyone saw was just a beautiful moment between
two lovers."
mircea_popescu: the problem is not what you call it, but
the bizarre notion
that
there is a switch somewhere.
mircea_popescu: don't
tell me we accidentallied into a public-private corssover where i was discussing public matters and you were recounting your sex life.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im speaking of
the
thing. what were you speaking of ?
mircea_popescu: in
truth and honestly, humanity has produced one single great idea since
the beginning,
mircea_popescu: maybe it's possible
to paint it green. so what if it is.
mircea_popescu: random arbitrary measure is irrelevant in
this discussion.
mircea_popescu: trinque
that's why i say "it's as if he reads his own
text with a different part of
the brain."
trinque: I'm reminded of
the idea
that whichever fighter jet is not just itself, but
the vast complex which sustains it
mircea_popescu: anyway,
there's nothing wrong with
taking pictures, as a memory aid.
trinque: the standard existing for whatever value of existing doesn't put a symbolics next
to my desk
trinque: I in point of fact cannot use common lisp in
the same manner someone might've back whenever
trinque: the koran is not some book; it's an arrangement of ideas in
the world
mircea_popescu: why
THE FUCK do you suppose
they
throw a fit ? "because
towelheads" ?
mircea_popescu off
to ammend
the rule, 0 , 1, infitnity MINUS ONE, infinity.
mircea_popescu: this happens irrespective of whether
they ALSO fell down in your picture or not.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, if i lean on
the pile just
the right way, whether you
took
the picture or not,
they will fall down.
mircea_popescu: you snap out your camera, and
take a picture of some objects in
this room.
mircea_popescu: so we go into
this room, where
there's all sorts of furniture.
mircea_popescu: it's as if he reads his own
text with a different part of
the brain.
mircea_popescu: next
thing you know
teaching hasn't happened in 2o years. wow of wow.
mircea_popescu: because clearly
this is a good
thing, not like
they'll now be more powerful
than whatever force is "opressing"
them into education.
mircea_popescu: they
took a snapshot of
the way educating
the young worked, imagined
that it's held in place by forces from mythology, and proceeded
to "give kids a say"
mircea_popescu: it is also how idiot brits/everyone sunk
the entire culture of
the west after
the war :
mircea_popescu: this is
the substance of
the misunderstanding. you imagine
that if you
take a picture of a pile of objects, you now have a SPECIAL pile of objects,
that does other
things.
mircea_popescu: once it becomes
the c, your flimsy "federalist papers" won't protect you any more
than yes, what
trinque said.
trinque: browser <- standardized
to hell and back