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asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/fellow-zoologists/#comment-115897
phf: but since you can't do that in the format of american higher education, we're stuck with dog and cow bullshit
phf: you can attempt to teach oop that reflects the real world, but then you should be talking in terms of communicating agents, and that will lead you to the chinese room, at which point you'd be amiss not drop some acid.
ben_vulpes: teaching OOP with models that "reflect the real world" instead of the programming environment is bad pedagogy and does a massive disservice to anyone who endures it.
phf: alan kay's, sonya keene's, etc. examples are window systems and thread locks, where's every single shitty intro to objects book uses the utterly meaningless "dog and cow are subclasses of animal".
phf: just because you can do it, doesn't give it meaning. in fact that sort of attempts at ontology result in a lot of bad code. (not to mention that they are doomed to failure, e.g. semantic web)
BingoBoingo: Gotta remember ISIS is also a group of teenage boys
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deedbot-: [Qntra] Claims "Anonymous" Uncovered "World Terror Day" Threat Circulating - http://qntra.net/2015/11/claims-anonymous-uncovered-world-terror-day-threat-circulating/
asciilifeform: ^ in there somewhere.
asciilifeform is set to 'sloth' and too lazy to dig up the old patton thread
BingoBoingo: Patton also loved playing with dolls when he grew up and kept wearing dresses long after the neighbor kids stopped
mircea_popescu: shooter, the fastest runner, big league ball players, the toughest boxers. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans play to win all the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost and never will lose a war, because the very thought of losing is hateful to Americans."
mircea_popescu: "...Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. Men, all this stuff you've heard about America not wanting to fight - wanting to stay out of the war, is a lot of horse dung. Americans traditionally love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble
BingoBoingo: WTF UK press recongugal words, the WWE event with the "terror threat" is survivor series not survival series
mircea_popescu: not that this is a bad approximation in any sense. but, contiguity is too juicy to have.
mircea_popescu: it is altogether dubious that brownian motion is a stochastic process.
assbot: Classical Wiener space - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1lBnA5r )
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu got a torrent for that flick?
assbot: Anonymous, ISIS, terror, Paris attack, hack, bomb, world event, risk | World | News | Daily Express ... ( http://bit.ly/1LsXs1s )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/621120/Anonymous-publish-a-list-of-ISIS-targets-after-hacking-their-terrorist-network << teh usg press is claiming this, seems dubious
BingoBoingo: trying to broaden my idiot mining empire
BingoBoingo: It's from the mines
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you own that juice chair ? i'd like to know how it works: which way do the legs go? through the metal brace, or is the latter a backrest?
BingoBoingo: Isn't that what GPRS stands for "Gland Packet Radio System" you know that system used for spreading HIV
BingoBoingo: Gland to bring to your personal Africa
kakobrekla: depends how far the planet is
linton_s_dawson: so disconnection from the outer world doesn't seem feasible unless i'm on another planet
adlai: if there's an "outer world", you may have violated "where it has nothing to do with fiat"?
mircea_popescu: or else your 5 apples delusion is crushed by the outer world supply.
mircea_popescu: either the "1000 apples" of outer world fiction is crushed by your demand,
mircea_popescu: this is resolved through arbitrage.
linton_s_dawson: indeed. the community must consist of "true believers" as well, i guess, since external factors can easily screw things up. like, if 1 btc buys 5 apples in my community but 1000 apples in the outer world.
mircea_popescu: this question is a lot less theoretical than it seems, seeing how eulora.
mircea_popescu: in general the supply side is going to be "as many btc as that community can get hands on" and the demand side will be "all the goods and services it wants to trade".
mircea_popescu: this is a question to be answered by that community neh ?
linton_s_dawson: mircea_popescu: i've seen your argument regarding the "true" value of a bitcoin where it has nothing to do with fiat. do you have a way to determine it? say, i start a community and we agree to use bitcoin as a currency. how many apples would one bitcoin (bit, satoshi, etc.) buy?
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> or was it zeus? << Brodin, the All Spotter
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well that'd be a different thing then wouldn't it.
adlai: there is also the chain of knowledge of valid and invalid
assbot: Logged on 21-11-2015 17:43:09; mircea_popescu: now you're presuming there exists a heavenly Births & Deaths register
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-11-2015#1329180 << there is the "book of life," but not everyone's name is written in it ☝︎
adlai: so all retards are retarded in His image, but some retards are 'more equal than others'?
assbot: Logged on 21-11-2015 17:33:32; mircea_popescu: well yes, the problem with the magical thinking of retards is that they assume there's a divinity somehwere in whose image they were made.
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-11-2015#1329151 << there is, but the retards don't believe in Him ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hilariously, because they handed out a diploma-shaped object at the ceremony, but it was actually some spam << SOP
asciilifeform: is that... a cup ?
mircea_popescu also didn't go to ceremony.
asciilifeform: hilariously, because they handed out a diploma-shaped object at the ceremony, but it was actually some spam
mircea_popescu: couldn't be arsed to send a lawyer after it - to put it with the tax papers.
mircea_popescu: went once, was a queue, took a girl for coffee and welll... there it waits, no doubt.
mircea_popescu: i never bothered to pick it up myself.
assbot: Logged on 21-11-2015 19:44:22; mircea_popescu: really, "less than college education" ? having a us college diploma is like having a mental disability certificate. it just means you're at best useless but in principle dumb.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-11-2015#1329372 << kinda funny, everybody i know who has one, incl. self, keeps it in some dark place with tax papers etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: because sad landz of the phonemically-challenged ?
mircea_popescu: http://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/avoska/ << yeah, good point - how come the us campus isn't full of these ? they're envirofriendly!
mircea_popescu: really, "less than college education" ? having a us college diploma is like having a mental disability certificate. it just means you're at best useless but in principle dumb. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me enjoyed the spin. really, the gop "may take out" trump ? the gop can't as much as take out the garbage.
mircea_popescu: dudes "just wanted to", and so they got their wish.
mircea_popescu: hey, maybe they feel like strangers "in their own country" because it ain't their own fucking country, and yes they are strangers.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, when rage of mages hit the market in the 90s, what the educated ro kids were saying was omfg, bilibin lives!)
mircea_popescu: and the feather of finist the eagle.
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asciilifeform: pretty sure everyone had this
mircea_popescu: http://russiapedia.rt.com/files/of-russian-origin/koshchey-bessmertny/koshchey-bessmertny_4-t.jpg << this pic is stolen from a book i had.
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mircea_popescu: (also there)
mircea_popescu: foreigner is taken aback
mircea_popescu: he stops passerby, more or less with hands and props they manage to understand each other. passerby looks around, identifies a tree, points to it.
mircea_popescu: proper & civilised soviet citizen walking on street in romanian capital, suddenly needs to pee.
asciilifeform: dun think so
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw ever told you the joke of the muscovite trying to take a shit in bucharest ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: easily my favourite russian thing.
asciilifeform: http://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin << many lulz, esp. in the choice of listed items
mircea_popescu: d collected in the navel, there is a disturbing episode."
mircea_popescu: "Go to Japan when he is transmitted (the mid-5th century), the board is there to make a box. The Remains of the back hole in the center had been opened for the sound effects. Blood reservoir (No Chi) Name of the samurai in the game of Go was the accomplishment, the spectators came from the mouth (first eight came through clearly), cut off by a samurai sword to the neck of the angry flip board , put the head of the bloo
funkenstein_: i guess their socialization is superior in the sense adlai implied: more evolved
mircea_popescu: what you call it ain't the lynchpin of this here lynch mob.
mircea_popescu: "Regardless of whether you waive the fine or not, and despite conditional terms added to reassert authority" being the point of interest.
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact, the whole distance is this : that you want the word unary and all the items equal. whereas the world is not even coherent
funkenstein_: actually in this case I was complimenting a far more entrenched class system
mircea_popescu: this is what derpy libertards call, for the short distance their congenital apnea allows them to run it, "critiquing the entrenched patriarchy"
funkenstein_: has nothing to do with any god?
mircea_popescu: nor, in point of fact, is there one now.
mircea_popescu: except, as far as the ants are concerned, there wouldn't be.
mircea_popescu: admire : you want that to be there so that you and ants are made by the same god so therefore, and i underscore, therefore, if the ants were owners of the world there still were a place in the world for you.
funkenstein_: aha ok thanks
mircea_popescu: specifically because it was not vague at all, but both specific and a fundamental requisite of the thinking in question.
funkenstein_: lets make a metric then: differentiation in societal roles
mircea_popescu: mno, you don't get to walk away from it.
funkenstein_: yeah that was pretty vague sorry.. I guess more established social behaviors..
mircea_popescu: tell me funkenstein_ what do you have "socialization" mean in there ?
mircea_popescu: actually upon rereading that spoken poem, i notice a hole the light might perhaps be brought in!
asciilifeform: at any rate, legend is that the cavity is for the severed head of 'hint giver' spectator during castle matches
adlai: the friend who made 'my' (his) goban says they're pretty much impossible to buy locally
asciilifeform: (part of the deal is that it has to be made of a sufficiently thick tree, no glue allowed)
asciilifeform: astonishingly expensive today.
asciilifeform: adlai: these are typically found in the old-style 'kaya' wood boards, the kind having legs
adlai doesn't have one of these
adlai: huh TIL http://senseis.xmp.net/?Heso