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mircea_popescu: $depth O.USD.C110T
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1/0.00227272
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1/0.0016129
mircea_popescu: jurov well you don't HAVE to settle, you can just sell it back later
mircea_popescu: $depth x.eur
mircea_popescu: oh.
mircea_popescu: what's r=1 do
mircea_popescu: no love for jurov
mircea_popescu: log's your friend
mircea_popescu: but idiots love being overzealously silly.
mircea_popescu: seems the usual overreaction. no such thing happened as far as anyone knows
mircea_popescu: FabianB_ in passing. not rly.
mircea_popescu: what are we voting on ?
mircea_popescu: herp.
mircea_popescu: especially if you also keep in mind his age.
mircea_popescu: all i recall is this dos-age splash screen
mircea_popescu: wow f-secure, what a blast from the past
mircea_popescu: was supposed to start today. i guess davout is having some tech trouble ?
mircea_popescu: now you're in... now you're out. back in... back out...
mircea_popescu: financial sex.
mircea_popescu: btc y u so break my haert
mircea_popescu: aw shucks, not a billionaire again ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it'd be ~1050 even so
mircea_popescu: is it ?
mircea_popescu: lol bitcoincharts is a little behind the blox
mircea_popescu: ;;bcstats
mircea_popescu: Estimated1002357574 in 1167 blks
mircea_popescu: it's its party and it can crash if it wants to ?
mircea_popescu: taub_ better than 1% or w/e mtgox was doing
mircea_popescu: ;;bcstats
mircea_popescu: making it obvious when someone defaults and making responsibility stick for defaults is good enough.
mircea_popescu: looky, economy is built on trust and people doing their job. it's not really built on "making it impossible" for people to default.
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: i'm not a fucking exchange. i gotta pick one.
mircea_popescu: at the very leasty.
mircea_popescu: i tell you euro will turn worthless in the next ten years a degree of magnitude more often than btc will
mircea_popescu: it creates the equivalent.
mircea_popescu: lyspooner what, instead of btc ? that's nonsense.
mircea_popescu: and moreover he has the means to go delta neutral as he has ready access to a spot market.
mircea_popescu: of course, what he says is that he's not going directional, and it makes sense for him not to, if he knows his business,
mircea_popescu: it's a possibility.
mircea_popescu: and it's practically better than the alternative (hold 1mn euros which also COULD be worthless)
mircea_popescu: still, on one hand it's a much better liquidation event than either the best or the most recent non-mpex liquidation event, on one hand
mircea_popescu: that COULD be worthless, obviously. and it'll have to be accounted for.
mircea_popescu: people get 0.00156 btc per held contract.
mircea_popescu: he sells those, and then runs off
mircea_popescu: well suppose the mm gets 1mn contracts, by depositing 1560 btc.
mircea_popescu: lyspooner certainly all changes are announced before the contract trades. this is sacred.
mircea_popescu: but it seems really edgy.
mircea_popescu: admittedly there could still exist an edge case where the mm splits and the holders book a loss
mircea_popescu: anyway, the mm deposit could have been in either of the pair, but btc seems safer.
mircea_popescu: embrace free market.
mircea_popescu: no there isn't. you've been looking at eurodollars too long.
mircea_popescu: we do things right for a reason.
mircea_popescu: it rots the brain.
mircea_popescu: how can't he not give you 1000 euros ?
mircea_popescu: 1000 contracts = 1000 euros
mircea_popescu: lyspooner that is one way to run it. there's no guarantee it'll be the way it's run.
mircea_popescu: edy for contract holders from the part of the Exchange.
mircea_popescu: (a) The Market Maker will immediately notify the Exchange should observance of the terms of this contract become impossible for the future. Should such notification be received, the Exchange will distribute the Market Maker's deposit to contract holders, in proportion of the number of contracts they hold but not in excess of the implied spot value rounded to the lowest 10. This distribution will constitute the sole rem
mircea_popescu: and
mircea_popescu: (c) The Market Maker will make a deposit of BTC with the Exchange, on the basis of which the Exchange will create a number of X.EUR contracts in the Market Maker's account, by the criterion of the weighted spot price rounded to the lowest 10.
mircea_popescu: yeah, because they deposit to mm.
mircea_popescu: Monthly settlement details available here : http://xeur.bitcoin-central.net/
mircea_popescu: jurov click all the links!
mircea_popescu: (see teh email you just got)
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: no such guarantee is made.
mircea_popescu: which obviously is not a future.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the phys delivery is mostly there to keep things honest. unlike all the bucket shops running a soft-settled only "future"
mircea_popescu: go ahead
mircea_popescu: lyspooner afaik there's a 5 eur charge per delivery.
mircea_popescu: this obviously being a mm feature, don't expect it to happen for 7.8 eur or some bs
mircea_popescu: but you can contact davout, and deliver euros to him on bc, which arrangement he may accept
mircea_popescu: jurov no.
mircea_popescu: at expiration you can either take 1 euro in cash if you go through the delivery process or have it rolled to next month's x.eur
mircea_popescu: yea
mircea_popescu: <lyspooner> and do i understand the specifications correctly that davout will be responsible for defining delivery details? << within reason and in advance.
mircea_popescu: 1 x.eur = 1 eur
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you getting a lot of that in -otc these days huh ? i see Azelphur negging people, that's a rarity.
mircea_popescu: lyspooner what do you mean min size ? you can get 1
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic lol so what was that all about ?
mircea_popescu: scam castle!
mircea_popescu: ya
mircea_popescu: herp
mircea_popescu: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-15/jpmorgans-bitcoin-alternative-patent-rejected-175-times
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: the south like 1:5
mircea_popescu: dollar split, the north was like, 1:2
mircea_popescu: nah, the war.
mircea_popescu: gribs gives me such heads.
mircea_popescu: ;;coin
mircea_popescu: than anything
mircea_popescu: this is a sadder site
mircea_popescu: http://www.harlanellison.com/heboard/ihnm/code/hypertxt.htm
mircea_popescu: gives the coin an incentive to spontaneously die
mircea_popescu: basically, the longer a block interval, the lower the reward
mircea_popescu: actually block rewards equal to say the 5th digit of the nonce are an interesting idea
mircea_popescu: i thought we were kidding around
mircea_popescu: holy shit, dogecoin is an actual thing ?