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mircea_popescu: o o ok i see. i mixed the .3 and .7 aite
mircea_popescu: right ?
mircea_popescu: and .3 + .5 + .7 = 1.5 btc
mircea_popescu: aite. so dems side is now 3 (opresumably) + 3.5 + .95 shares
mircea_popescu: ok. now, i come and put 0.7 on dems. what's this do ?
mircea_popescu: so i get 5, say.
mircea_popescu: aite, so let's try it. since you're somehow decided it must be 0.1s for some reason, i put 0.5 on dems. what's that do ?
mircea_popescu: does your thing lift me up ?
mircea_popescu: bbv1 is neutral on thsi score. if someone buys the other side later it lifts you up
mircea_popescu: now we know it's the end of the world.
mircea_popescu: 5 ltc dispute
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=352830.0 << check out the paperwork that went into a
mircea_popescu: why not pi.
mircea_popescu: e ?
mircea_popescu: we're trying to see how that'd go atm
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: (1st share 1 btc, 2nd share 1.3 btc etc ftr)
mircea_popescu: now he goes all taylor on it i bet
mircea_popescu: just a little numerical analysis
mircea_popescu: just guess the value of the integral, it won't kill you .not like it's a binding contract or anything
mircea_popescu: that was quick ;/
mircea_popescu: mike_c so guess dood. weren't you an engineer ?
mircea_popescu: guess why.
mircea_popescu: algorithmically generated order books aren't used irl
mircea_popescu: so if i spend 10 btc i get a number of shares you can't specify. wjhat happens next ?
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: all math is scam. so what's your x on my 10 btc ?
mircea_popescu: scam.
mircea_popescu: "x" ?
mircea_popescu: i got 10 btc on the dems right here. i send it to your site. what happens ?
mircea_popescu: wait, what ?
mircea_popescu: i think irl bitbet seeds more like .3 .7 bu anyway
mircea_popescu: ok
mircea_popescu: so what do i do now ?
mircea_popescu: it dun matter what the bet is.
mircea_popescu: that aside
mircea_popescu: nah, one's enough for this
mircea_popescu: what now ?
mircea_popescu: so let's run through this. bet is gribble's coin toss comes out heads.
mircea_popescu: we need a better format.
mircea_popescu: pdfs need to die already
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i like this guy.
mircea_popescu: mike_c did the academia folks invent something again ?
mircea_popescu: this was "news" in 200 bc too. i dunno why it's so counterintuitive
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's possible substitution for reputation generally.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i can be all, ha, i was doing this in 2012 newbs.
mircea_popescu: im kinda looking forward to the day when the old world starts actually paying lawyers to troll irc.
mircea_popescu: myeah
mircea_popescu: what's apple gonna do, come here and bitch ?
mircea_popescu: besides, btc makes us about 5000x as powerful as fiat ever was
mircea_popescu: i guess roua's accident recently left a hole.
mircea_popescu: this is a point
mircea_popescu: was it jurov ?
mircea_popescu: prolly something unfortunate
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform somethin' like that.
mircea_popescu: mno ?
mircea_popescu: not like i won't let you make a bet that expires early or that ends with w/e weight etc
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this discussion mostly started because users can't be arsed to use the fine tuning implem,ents already available
mircea_popescu: what are you, an engineer ?
mircea_popescu: it doesn't give him cake and you penis.
mircea_popescu: but not more than his.
mircea_popescu: but at least you know what weight you get.
mircea_popescu: blancmange. moar like tits.
mircea_popescu: what can math possibly hurt.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ianal.
mircea_popescu: jurov looks too un-sine to be a sine imo.
mircea_popescu: you basically now live in a cloudy soup of "i can't fucking know wjhat i'm betting on"
mircea_popescu: mike_c one major problem of the not-time approach is, what if right before your 10btc bet makes it, someone puts in a 1k btc bet.
mircea_popescu: "any woman would be better than the girl next door. except, you know, a really annoying pornstar. or a quadriplegic. or a butch lesbian."
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that can't be true.
mircea_popescu: prolly
mircea_popescu: he linked some stuff above from weather prediction
mircea_popescu: jurov what's that curve even, its not a sine section.
mircea_popescu: the who ?
mircea_popescu: however, it may be the best approximation, depending how the problem is actually defined
mircea_popescu: i mean to be clear, im not proposing linear timeweight is the absolutely correct solution. it's obviously wrong, life isn't linear.
mircea_popescu: Vexual it's where people seem to think they do a lot better at predicting outcomes as time goes by
mircea_popescu: mebbe i only think i got what you mean
mircea_popescu: or w/e, model this for me
mircea_popescu: yes, but his more is a function of the total bet.
mircea_popescu: mike_c how is your idea different from just splitting the pool according to a polynomial (bet sum) ?
mircea_popescu: likle the blockchain
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves basically he proposes to not use a time function, but a bet function
mircea_popescu: mike_c how do you anchor it ? why 50k and not 492 ?
mircea_popescu: jurov interesting...
mircea_popescu: i can follow mike_c proposal but not yours, and moreover they seem quite distinct
mircea_popescu: jurov a nonlinear curve would, of course, have to somehow be communicated to the bettors, which may take 16 months of scam accusations in the btctalk.
mircea_popescu: explain it ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c i dunno what it'd be
mircea_popescu: jurov just do a historical average of all science ?
mircea_popescu: it's still pretty wild.
mircea_popescu: what has materially changed in that bet since a month ago ?
mircea_popescu: i can't even follow the guy's idea
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: not only what mike_c said, but also... then how do you specify the curve.
mircea_popescu: jurov huh ?