asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937108 << recently in an old-b00kz shop i encountered new 'gem' of irigarayism, 'Gender and Boyle's Law of Gases' . arguing that 'boyle cheated and instead of data used the patriarchic preconceptions of his time'(tm)(r) .
asciilifeform: speaking of 'do what have to do!' , asciilifeform gotta fix a leaking pipe, bbl.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu actually had piece on this subj. where mentioned 'dragon'. i.e. at some pt the lamer's task becomes factually impossible, after tall enuff pile of fuckup
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as you said earlier, prolly similar to how phf threw in towel. i.e. 'i racked up 9 figures of stupidity bill, no way to pay'
asciilifeform: sure as fuck worx, 1934-1953 worked a+++. but then the 'soft' folx came, and forgot how.
asciilifeform: d to stick with 1960s state of art while west has pdp'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'face derealization' / 'they gave up, why' -- i was reading not long ago about keldysh (head of sovok academy of sciences, and overall respectable figure, in charge of ~100% of calculative works for space / atomic programs etc. ) BUT at same time is the fella who undertook 'let's ditch native comp archs and copy pdp'. seems like was a checkmate, rather than 'dolchstoss', saw no working alternative , 'we can't affor
asciilifeform: aha! ty mircea_popescu , was digging for that same piece
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol! reminds of 'britain-poland mutual defense treaty' of 1930s
asciilifeform will admit that he does not follow the muppetshow in realtime
asciilifeform: re gabbard ? possib. BingoBoingo already gave answr.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'gave up' in '70s, when the 'party elite' sys solidified into an obviously hereditary aristocracy (populated by not esp. bright folx, at that)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re glibc -- iirc subj of inquiry was re the 'nss' thing, which i found to be the sublib that drags in dynamicism, dns, etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: trade in metal ~not produced~ since ~1991 or so.
asciilifeform: loyal quisling flavoured with 'disobedience' for decades, then suddenly 'moment of clarity' when toolate.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i.e. putin is ~exactly rms
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bonus funny re subj -- putin continued selling sovok's plutonium stockpile to washingtonistan all the way to '13 ! ( then -- when stopped in '14 -- got the 'ukrs' fiesta )
asciilifeform: sorta like the termite house , pylons long ago hollow, finally collapsing into pile o'rubble.
asciilifeform: '91 was simply culmination of this process, when pretense fell away.
asciilifeform: the poisoners -- 'drew quicker'. removed his chosen successor and his wot ; and proceeded to start sawing apart the house and sell to foreigners, feather miami nests.
asciilifeform: $process of course did not start with andropov. but with the derps who poisoned stalin, who was , near as i can tell, gettin' ready to purge the 'party elite' an' replace it w/ the young, vigorous folx who did loyal wetwork for him earlier.
asciilifeform: ( kgb -- won ; andropov -- crowned; purged the 'principled' folx, proceeded to do all he could to blow up the pylons on which stood sovok, but croaked promptly, adopted prince gorby was left to ineptly finish up the job )
asciilifeform: episode, at least from my perch, is reminiscent of the undeclared 'civil war' in early '80s sovok b/w kgb and mvd .
asciilifeform: internal usg turf war. google-crapple-et-al miffed that some trickle from printing press still went to the 90yo's at mit 'ai lab' .
asciilifeform: ( why nao cement -- i have nfi. it aint as if anyffin was ever likely to rise outta that grave. )
asciilifeform: fsf dead, for any conceivable pov, for decade+ . nao simply cement poured on grave.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re 'cohesive' -- no moar or less than ameritards. simply in orcistans there does not exist the custom of pseudo-'plurality' that the (formerly) rich 'west' was able (until recently) to afford.
asciilifeform: 'replaced with other-abled oppressed poor black female with hiv dancing macarena in a wheelchair'(tm)(r)(uncle al schwartz)
asciilifeform: i suspect it'll be a trans-'chix' or similar.
asciilifeform: this being said -- will be interesting to see which 'bob beck' is crowned as 'new rms'.
asciilifeform: 'old age & treachery beat youth & vigour erry time' or how did it go.
asciilifeform: exactly as happened in sovok, the leninists had 0 lasting dynastic succession, ~100% garbagecollected by stalin & co.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this so, but observe that present-day china is run 100% by (sons of) folx who sat in gulag during 'cultural rev'. and not of the 'red guards'.
asciilifeform: cattle stampeding (all the way into meat plant conveyor) aint 'cattle running the farm', the farm is still a farm and farmer is still the farmer, and meat still grown for market.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: exactly like the chinese cultural rev. (which shut off like a lamp when mao flicked switch) this one is a 'controlled burn'.
asciilifeform: will say what script tells'em to say.
asciilifeform: the cucklets are extras in this movie.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: notice, he Officially Recanted , can have corner right next to linus.
asciilifeform: for so long as there's a gaggle of idjits who see him having 'auctoritas', his formaldehyde-pickled hide is worth sumthing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: betcha microshit already cleared out a hallway corner for mr mushroom.
asciilifeform: they stood up under flag of 'africa' when, per legend, drowned the sqrt(2) fella.
asciilifeform: as i understand, the 'modern current' (i.e. 'ifuckinglovescience'(tm)(r) zombie worship) existed even in 'the day of plato' -- the pythagoreans & co
asciilifeform: cks in exactly same way, and neither maffs, nor physics, nor even programming, are happening in their hands, but instead elaborate waste of time.
asciilifeform: this particular 'africa' tho is prion-contagious. the software derps decided that 'it's still a valid program' when imports GB of autoconfolade and 'appears to work'. the maffs people decided 'it's still a proof' when imports a GB of softwareliquishit and fits in 0 heads. the physics folx , that 'it's still physics' if used an irreproducible machine built by great inca. whereas per asciilifeform all of these people are pulling own co
asciilifeform: well if formulate it as a 'jeszcze polska ne zginela / kiedy my zyjemy' , then sure, 'maffs is alive'. in 5-6 heads. not a very big place.
asciilifeform: what's it mean for medicine to be 'alive' if zimbabwe is errywhere ?
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform counts the maffs komyooniti's swallowing of the autogenned 3colour proof as 'moment of death', but strictly for convenience, entirely possible that died earlier )
