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OZmaster: yeh well i know
they are, i got fked myself majourly by one
mircea_popescu: scammers still
trying
to sell pmbs
to redditards, with mixed success.
OZmaster: well not
to mention
the cloudmineing sites
then, ponzis 101
mircea_popescu: has he ? besides
the fucking point.
talking about how much you make is his way of getting under your skin.
mircea_popescu: so... yeah. all con men start by breaking a minor
taboo of
this sort.
the widest known is
the "make money" derp, who can't cease
talking about how much money he made bla bla.
mircea_popescu: 2. conversely, all confidence games are predicated on
the same process : "is it called a confidence game because i'm supposed
to give you my confidence ?" "no. because i give yo umine".
mircea_popescu: the same exact incentives exist
to attack all of
these. consequently,
there exists exactly no incentive for a miner
to advertise ; and strong incentive not
to.
mircea_popescu: 1. miners are key points of
the bitcoin infrastructure. unlike
traditional infrastructure such as
the hoover dam or
the pentagon,
the miners do not have
to be physically discernible.
OZmaster: how could
they "use"
the
term miner
to scam something:S i'm
totaly not folowing now
OZmaster: oh u surely mean all
the cloudmining sites?
Presstrump: alts only exist
to extract BTC from n00bs
OZmaster: is it dangerous
to let people know one is mining?
mircea_popescu: yeah. just saying, if someone's claiming
to be a miner, odds are
they're a scammer.
OZmaster: mircea_popescu why u mean
that
they dont "advertise" it ?
pete_dushenski: OZmaster:
there's not much in
the way of btc miner representation amongst
the regulars here. as for alts,
the folks here are more likely
to short
them
than mine
them.
Presstrump: with
the exception of MPEx,
that is ;)
OZmaster: lulz, well cant argue much
there
Presstrump: OZmaster, no,
they pretty much
talk about how everything BTC related is a scam.
mircea_popescu: if it doesn't work you can let us know here, we'll
twist kako's arms over it for many years
to come :D
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http://paste.lisp.org/display/163299 OZmaster: cable and BTC,,, some alts but not
that many
OZmaster: hope its not against
the rules :)
OZmaster: just a
trader looking for some company
mircea_popescu: can't update cursor position until i have a hash of all
the 50000 icons i put in
that folder.
mircea_popescu: it's usually
the wm going "oh, i caqn't have X ?
THEN I WILL WAIT WITH EVERYTHING!!1"
mircea_popescu: phf i don'\t
think
this ever happened at
the scheduler level.
phf: it's usually handling millions of other interrupts, and
then
the scheduler needs
to decide "oh
there's some mouse events, maybe i should prioritize
them a bit"
mircea_popescu: this shouldn't be a problem, except
they're written by ustarded children, and so
they expect everything all
the
time or else drop
to
the floor and cry
mircea_popescu: afaik dumbass osen (such as windoze) end up looking choppy because
they handle
the swap poorly and
the windows manager ends up conflicted with some higher priority item on "memory" access
☟︎ phf: trinque: a combination of system calls and interrupts, but it's up
to scheduler
to decide what
to do and when. "handling some other interrupt" is usually not
the bottle neck
trinque: I read
this guy as saying it should drop everything and move
the cursor
☟︎ trinque: so if
the OS is handling some other interrupt, it's not going
to bother with
the input interrupts until after
mircea_popescu: and what
the everloving fuck would you do with
the mouse on a server
mircea_popescu: trinque i've not yet observed
the mouse cursor lagging on any system
that i can recall since mice became a
thing.
☟︎ phf: on a console you want operator issued commands
to have priority over everything else, i don't
think
this has anything
to do with
the kernel.
there was a set of patches for linux
that gave scheduling priority
to x11, and generally was supposed
to make system much more responsive from operator side of
things. guy quit over "giant co server needs decide what goes into kernel, i'm done"
mircea_popescu: <trinque> shinohai: somehow I'm doubtful boston's white
thug population ever read anything <
trinque: as I understand it
these preemption systems incur a great deal of additional complexity, and some wise folks might say keeping *that*
to a minimum is of
the greatest importance.
trinque: "You know, when I first switched
to MacOS from Linux,
the fact
that I was finally using an operating system
that understood
that
tracking
the mouse was
the highest priority
thing and
that you could never, ever let
that fall behind was one of
the most refreshing
things." << wtf kind of idiocy is
this?
pete_dushenski: maintain monopoly on force so
that
the state may have some hope of social relevance
trinque: pete_dushenski:
that guy started
trying
to spin a gun control narrative
the day of
pete_dushenski: didn't obama have some lulzy press conpherence quote after
the recent california shootings (at
the autistard clinic) along
the lines of "these shooting are more and more frequent and we know we can't stop
them but we sure wouldn't mind making
them ~less frequent~"
trinque: I guess
that look is spreading
trinque: shinohai: and whoops,
that was maryland
trinque: shinohai: somehow I'm doubtful boston's white
thug population ever read anything
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mircea_popescu: why are we redoing
the flame
thing ? it's not 2012 anymore, and srsly, "one of
the most sophisticated, md5-hash based, windows-only piece of crapolade ever" ?
thestringpuller: nothing but state you spent money via reddit in
their name.
thestringpuller: it means
the redditards liked what you wrote so much,
they bought you reddit gold.
shinohai: i saw
that. One post about
them on reddit got gilded x3
trinque: shinohai: just verify
them on your end before
trying
to submit
shinohai: god fucking dammit why can't I do
this right? >.<
adlai: you can also sign from
the input addresses
mircea_popescu: clearly
this
thing is not coming from anywhere we've seen before.
mircea_popescu: the adequacy of bitcoin is eerly evident in
this context : "what happens if someone sees my secret and steals it ?" "well... i guess you can pay again."
mircea_popescu: (make deed
today
that "i will pay sum so and so
to foundation address
tomorrow",
then pay
tomorrow.)
mircea_popescu: well, jurov is
teh
treasurer. he might be amenable
to making arrangements for you, if it's a significant sum. alternatively, you can use
the forward secret method.
gabrielradio: yes, but say someone in b-a inquires about your payments
to
the foundation
gabrielradio: "this obligation is a moral requirement, and outside of
the opinion of
the sovereign people it will not be enforced."
mircea_popescu: ahaha
that redditard guy. "i did not know you were stolen your honoars!!!!" "were
they discounted ?" "well yes, but
this
totally happens all
the
time" "with what ?" "with for instance... stolen cars, if people sell it
to
the chop shop... or if someone is selling something out of
the
trunk downtown ? or like... if it's you know, like we say on
the street hot" "..."