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nubbins`: lotta keefes in the ground out west
nubbins`: before scrounging enough to build a more permanent home
nubbins`: my great-grandparents floated over on the Empress of Ireland and lived in a canvas tent in Banff for 5 years
pete_dushenski: show me the "boomer echo" kid whose great-grandparents actually owned something and i'll show you a kid who's doing well for himself today.
pete_dushenski: "boomer" parents fluked into a historical windfall ~themselves~, like y'know, actual lottery winners. that their kids didn't manage to hold onto a dime of it is par for the course.
nubbins`: dude i'm 33, the parents are still living
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 18:07:55; nubbins`: mircea_popescu lol my entire generation was spawned by people together enough to actually own something. and they're all fuckups
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338224 << the parents never owned anything. if you didn't pass it down, what the fuck did you do with it ? blow and hookerz ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 18:07:06; nubbins`: unremarkable in the sense that any asshole can get a windfall
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338217 << in a sense, yes, those with sane and productive parents are indeed 'lottery winners', the key difference being that, unlike 6/49 winners, the 'lucky' kids have skills and blood-related mentors !!1 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 18:06:26; mircea_popescu: an inheritance was unremarkable. WAS. three centuries ago.
pete_dushenski: mkay. so maybe in halifax, the banks are the warm huggy people who care and the local slumlords and the jerkoffs. what do i know.
nubbins`: or their tenants
nubbins`: and they DGAF about their rentals
nubbins`: the rest goes to the waltons, or the irvings, or whomever
nubbins`: where maybe 5-10 cents of every dollar they spend stays in the community
nubbins`: most landlords spend all their money at big box stores
nubbins`: on the whole, i disagree
pete_dushenski: this, then, in turn benefits the tenants, our tenants
pete_dushenski: it's not binary, of course, just that we care ~more~
pete_dushenski: that landlords, like yourself, like myself, give a shit about the places they live MORE than the banks from far-off lands.
nubbins`: i try!
pete_dushenski: you're a small time landlord though, and even still i'm sure you don't buy much of anything at usg-megacorp-retail-centre
pete_dushenski: well, you're a landlord aintcha, don't you care about your town ?
nubbins`: besides, how's the landlord buying a new snowblower at Wal-Mart helping the local anything?
nubbins`: landlords don't give a red fuck about their towns
pete_dushenski: because i'd see local landlord and caring more about my town than some bank in toronto
pete_dushenski: ok, let's work the with 'maybe house will never again be worth 200k' condition. why not give 12k to landlord instead of bank ? will landlord not put that money to more practicable and local use, having a higher probability of bettering renter's station ?
nubbins`: put another way, let's say you rent for a year. at the end of the year, what do you have to show for it? ☟︎
nubbins`: if you'd rather work less as time goes on, well, maybe buy?
nubbins`: i feel there's more value in one than the other, ymmv
nubbins`: whether that's paying off a too-high mortgage or paying off someone ELSE'S too-high mortgage is his choice
pete_dushenski: so explain to me guy who keeps paying down 200k mortgage on 100k house. does he expect house to one day be worth 200k again ?
nubbins`: i actually received a new property assessment in the mail last week
nubbins`: so the mortgage goes up $50/mo. big whoop.
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: i feel sorry for the idjits paying down 200k mortgage for house that will only ever be worth 100k. why not light money on fire ? stay warm, enjoy the show ?
nubbins`: for someone like me, market value affects property tax, little else
mircea_popescu: kinda the whole point of property being that solvent owners really don't give a shit what other parties think things be "worth".
nubbins`: "don't borrow a lot of money unless you don't need to" is ok advice
nubbins`: tbf it's not a lesson unless they wanna sell
pete_dushenski: and teach one to their kids
pete_dushenski: ok, they should live on the street after the fact ;/
nubbins`: but telling them to rent after the fact is gibberish
nubbins`: well, this, yes.
pete_dushenski: wtf were you doing taking out massive loan when you didn't understand downside risk
nubbins`: yes, or rent in the first place
pete_dushenski: or RENT IN THE FIRST PLACE
mircea_popescu: same exact thing happened to the athenian fucking fleet.
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 17:49:06; nubbins`: pete_dushenski all the people whose houses are suddenly worth less than the outstanding mortgages would tend to disagree that "all will be well"
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338119 << so... tell 'em to rent. what. "everyone should have house and make profit all teh timez" ? please. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "put more grain in there"
mircea_popescu: "it's weird, the wevils eat our grain i na week"
mircea_popescu: it's theft dude.
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: lol but voters can't handle the truth !
mircea_popescu: i dunno, the last ice age didn't go over budget.
nubbins`: tbf, if it happens every time, maybe just bump up the numbers from the start
pete_dushenski: pretty sure 95%+ of such projects have these same issues
pete_dushenski: well, again, tbf, it's entirely in the nature of mega-projects to go over-budget and past 'expected' timeline for completion
nubbins`: and then to american markets and beyond
nubbins`: down thru NL and over the water to NS
nubbins`: across the fucking long-range fucking mountains
nubbins`: power lines running from labrador across the strait to the island
pete_dushenski was landlord in fort mac during 'good times', knows.
nubbins`: pete_dushenski prudence woulda been putting the grease money into something else before it was too late
nubbins`: and it costs $800/mo to rent a hammock in an unheated shed?
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: well, tbf, what other basket was there than oil ?
pete_dushenski: not sure why, but all the syrians who come to canada stay in big cities and stay the fuck away from fort mcmurray
nubbins`: we sorta put all our eggs in the oil basket
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 17:48:11; mircea_popescu: talk to teh syrian immigrants.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338117 << funny, syrians don't seem to much care for -40C ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338114 << i'm agreeing with you dude, thus 'service economy' line. i know full well that nfld had jack all for an economy 15 years ago and will likely be back where it started 15 years hence. ☝︎
Cristina: mucho trabajo??
Cristina: que tal todo por a qui?
mircea_popescu: eulora has this very pronounced old style adventure quality to it, for the first few hours/days/weeks/we it takews you.
mircea_popescu: well prolly should do that in #eulora, and also... don't you enjoy a mystery ? :D
nubbins`: i may have to start out with basic things like "how to do anything besides walking around"
mircea_popescu: didja go to the slutwalk ?
nubbins`: you quite literally would prob have to walk me through it
nubbins`: ooop there comes the sky!
mircea_popescu: lol. it's night time~!
thestringpuller: and the sky box
thestringpuller: you're missing texture data
thestringpuller: I srsly feel like Dave Chappelle up in this bitch. I want to believe people have potential to become actual human beings, but I guess I'm wrong.
thestringpuller: WTF PEOPLE. Arguing "Bitcoin needs to be able to change and evolve" to back your opinion on hard forks is beyond fucktarded.
mircea_popescu: fix you up with some tools and assorted junk
mircea_popescu: find your way uphill, there's some tables there and a coupla animated fruitboxes
nubbins`: clicking things seems not to change avatar
nubbins`: before i commit to this character, am i supposed to be able to change physical features?
mircea_popescu: some intuition of the whole thing doth exist.
nubbins`: no trouble at all
mircea_popescu: so what's the trouble with that ?
nubbins`: until they come across my posts
nubbins`: tons of noobs out there failing at screenprinting
nubbins`: a different angle: what better way to encourage indebtedness to me?
mircea_popescu is a little wary of this theory. zuckerberg thinks he owns facebook.
nubbins`: there is no gigposters forum outside of the knowledgeable who post there
mircea_popescu: there is no tmsr outside of the nodes in the wot graph
mircea_popescu: this is exactly why the wot exists - to disinhabituate socialists from stealing from the people and giving to "the institution" so that lenin, stalin or whatever other nigger can then steal it.
nubbins`: why not pledge fealty to mp instead of TMSRO~
nubbins`: mircea_popescu it's a schelling point, couldn't have found the actual people were it not for the venue