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asciilifeform: wasn't it mircea_popescu who just recently posted a spiffy piece re: herd animals and what sex the meat processing plant uses to fill a herd ?
mircea_popescu: there are two kinds of fools in this world, the sort that thinks women are equal to men ; and the sort that thinks women are unequal to men in all things.
asciilifeform: and that's how spamodin made them
asciilifeform: aha but they're gurlz
mircea_popescu: it's not fucking obvious. my slavegirls by a fat margin prefer slavery (which is not servitude just like whales are not fish), and work a lot better than any fucking employees anyone ever had.
mircea_popescu: "The undesirability of servitude, from the point of view of the laborer at least, is obvious. Serfs and slaves faced brutal work conditions, floggings, starvation, very short life spans, and the inability to escape no matter how bad conditions got. "
mircea_popescu: this may be the most confused, anti-thought essay i've ever read.
mircea_popescu: jesus look at that, so he IS aware piece rate exists.
mircea_popescu: "To improve the productivity of the time rate contract required two breakthroughs: the first, creating the conditions under which sacrifice is a better estimate of value than piece rate or other measurement alternative"
asciilifeform: well related in the sense of moar fun habitation
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i got some flats in romania, too. not so strictly related
asciilifeform: i vaguely recall that he did and then just went and got a bigger flat in b-a
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 02:05:46; BingoBoingo: NExt conference is in 16 months? hopefully should have life put back together sufficiently by then.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343105 << did i miss a thread ? no trilemaconf this year ? ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Might take a while to get to docks, so not next boat. Some boat though.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yeah but afaik nothing keeps you there now
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness, if one uses a few casts and whatnot, the linker prolly has it.
asciilifeform: or we expect stdlib to have it ?
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would he think that the topic of origin and the topic of the origin of accuracy are related ?
asciilifeform: but what, compiler is going to insert an entropy gatherer in the build ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the quotes above are apropos.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is to me an almost guarantee by now that pedanticism in that context guarantees ineptitude of an epic scale
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 00:05:18; jurov: and the contrived examples...to roll 2 fair dice: static std::discrete_distribution<> /* follows 12 rows with histogram ennumerated as floats*/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343090 << sadly, pheatures like this are pretty much always implemented with pseudorandom garbage. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the russkis didn't have standard barrel size on theior fucking tanks by 1940
BingoBoingo: It's good to see someone faund the timekeeping lulz
mircea_popescu: second off : grain diameter ? what the holy shit ? he imagines they ground marble down to molecular size ?
asciilifeform confesses that he did not read that far in
mircea_popescu: first off! the construction of that last phrase is wrong.
mircea_popescu: "The origin of the sandglass is quite obscure, but its accuracy relies on a precise ratio between the neck width and the grain diameter."
mircea_popescu: he can't be this dumb.
mircea_popescu: dude what the everloving fuck is wrong with szabo.
mircea_popescu: Such a recipe presumably creates grains of a size in a precise ratio to a standard hour-glass neck size, thus producing an accurate time.”
mircea_popescu: "Take the grease which comes from the sawdust of marble when those great tombs of black marble be sawn, then boil it well in wine like a piece of meat and skim it, and then set it out to dry in the sun; and boil, skim and dry nine times; and thus it will be good."
mircea_popescu: French housewives were using recipes to make, along with food, glue, ink, and so on, marble grains for an hour-glass:
assbot: Logged on 14-12-2015 23:44:24; mircea_popescu: gentoo's a fallen thing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2015#1343080 << not unlike every single necessary thing elsewhere ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2015#1343074 << neat! thx jurov ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose next time you send the clerk over to do derpclass.
BingoBoingo: Case only took 2.5 years of state's time though.
BingoBoingo: Rest of the class was all in there for DUI
BingoBoingo: Because their default reflex is assume drugs/alcohol are involved in evil.
mircea_popescu: uh... why's drugs blabla involved in all this ?
BingoBoingo: Not an ideal or maximally lulzworthy resolution, but at $150 to retain lawyer, $200 for hearing prep, and $120 for class hosted by private party St Clair County recieved 0 dollars.
BingoBoingo: Case ended with the compromise where I take a drug risk education course and they quit. Avoided the possibility of stupid/hostile judge at hearing/trial.
mircea_popescu: at teh earliest.
BingoBoingo: NExt conference is in 16 months? hopefully should have life put back together sufficiently by then. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Well, dismissed with leave, but that part should hopefully be resolved on Friday at court date.
mod6: <+jurov> which version is the -TEST2? asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option? << yeah.
mircea_popescu: "The economic tyranny of the late Roman Empire had left a devastated polity, a culture in Western Europe that had lost its knowledge of civilized commercial practice and accustomed to seeing government not as a source of any productive assistance to commerce, but only a destroyer of commerce from which commerce must hide. "
mircea_popescu: well that was an instructive read
jurov: and the contrived examples...to roll 2 fair dice: static std::discrete_distribution<> /* follows 12 rows with histogram ennumerated as floats*/ ☟︎
jurov: with their elaborate entropy management
mircea_popescu: At the bottom line, throw/catch are about as useful as longjmp/setjmp (BTW, the former typically runs faster, but it's mere existence makes the rest of the code run slower, which is almost never acknowledged by C++ aficionados).
mircea_popescu: round is to copy the vector. And this is an extremely simple example - no virtual inheritance, no user-defined conversion operators, etc.
mircea_popescu: trings"), and I have a std::vector<char*> object ("a mutable vector of mutable built-in strings"), then I can't pass it to your function because the types aren't convertible. You have to admit that it doesn't make any sense, because your function guarantees that it won't change anything, and I guarantee that I don't even mind having anything changed, and still the C++ type system gets in the way and the only sane worka
mircea_popescu: But wait, there's more! C++ supports a wide variety of explicit and implicit type conversions, so now we have a nice set of rules describing the cartesian product of all those types, specifically, how conversion should be handled for each pair of types. For example, if your function accepts const std::vector<const char*>& (which is supposed to mean "a reference to an immutable vector of pointers to immutable built-in s
mircea_popescu: gentoo's a fallen thing. ☟︎
jurov: https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-p2p/bitcoinxt-qt in gentoo? wow that's quick.
jurov: which version is the -TEST2? asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option?
mircea_popescu: i'd link to trilema but apparently it's a lean monday or something.
assbot: Logged on 14-12-2015 22:50:10; jurov: if i have to go back to manage bloated wallet.dat, or write transactions by hand (since wallet.dat is scheduled for excision from therealbitcoin), i'll prolly increase withdraw fee to 0.2 again :D
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2015#1343041 << a transactionator - A SANE TRANSACTIONATOR is actually pretty high up in the "stuff to do" list. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-12-2015 19:04:45; trinque: looks like the existing node scoring mechanism is a turd
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2015#1342925 << yeah, this has been the consensus here since we started looking at it. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-12-2015 19:03:27; ben_vulpes: more carbons and hydrogens in the propane, ergo more flammable right?
assbot: Intel AMT-how to disable and verify - Lenovo Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5tl5q )
ascii_field: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/keystore.cpp?v=asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected << or anything else other than the default - indices broken
jurov: whatever. i know my own hand is not steady enough for this surgery.
ascii_field: which afaik was the whole motherfuking point of trb
jurov: it will prolly end up easier to remove it completely that trying it to make standing on its own
ascii_field: iirc that's where the thread went.
jurov: yes we went thought this. with completely different memories, apparently.
ascii_field: i thought we went through this ?
jurov: if i have to go back to manage bloated wallet.dat, or write transactions by hand (since wallet.dat is scheduled for excision from therealbitcoin), i'll prolly increase withdraw fee to 0.2 again :D ☟︎
BingoBoingo: * ascii_field tries to recall what electrum is for << "lite" wallet that polls server. Might be useful "on the run" if have own server somewhere.
ascii_field tries to recall what electrum is for
jurov: electrum should be easy to fix, that's not an issue. i'm just glad i won't have to decide this.
jurov: that's easy for you to say, you don't touch actual bitcoins
ascii_field: rather than the reference client.
ascii_field: would seem to be an argument in favour of throwing out electrum
jurov: don't know. electrum produces P2SH transactions, that's how i found out. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 14-12-2015 22:33:23; jurov: actually if you pay something with any recent wallet, reference client will reject the tx as malformed :)
jurov: yep, part of it will either need to be backported or deprecated
BingoBoingo: This is something prolly ought to look into moar
BingoBoingo: I started bastard wallet with 0.7-ish branch, so it can see some limited multisig, but... should be normal tx sent out
jurov: actually if you pay something with any recent wallet, reference client will reject the tx as malformed :) ☟︎
jurov: no, BIP-16 is widely applied to 1xxxxx addresses, too
jurov: (reference clients accepts only them, i did not look into this)
jurov: are pre-BIP-16 txs malleated too?
thestringpuller: read that as fellating nodes
BingoBoingo played with adding low-s signing to his bastard client seems to work. Prior to 0.9 Bitcoin used whatever S-came arrived at first. Then in run up to 0.9 even-S was tested. Then low-S settled upon. Malleating nodes making duplicate transactions appear in my history got to be a hassel.
jurov: pity. almost proposed adding dbus to reference client.
BingoBoingo: At least this means KDBUS is now dead before merged
ascii_field: if at first the shit won't stick, throw, throw again !
BingoBoingo: "BUS1 isn't being developed by just some unknown individuals, but systemd developer David Herrmann and Kay Sievers seem to be the lead (and only) developers working on it thus far."
ascii_field: (though same applies to eeprom in spades)
BingoBoingo: Still, bits unflipping on EEPROM seems... like a problem... Unless they can be reflipped...
ascii_field: so i wanted to calculate, how many ?
ascii_field: but it would stand to reason that, if designing for ultra-long life, you might want to use multiple roms and a voting circuit...