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mircea_popescu: because they read trilema.
mircea_popescu: it's an actual historical person.
mircea_popescu: https://blogideologic.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/mafalda-in-cultura-populara-a-romanilor/
mircea_popescu: anyway, mafalda was a late 1800s famous seer
mircea_popescu: hmm apparently this doesn't convert to english
mircea_popescu: what am i, mafalda ?
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: see there, para I
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/some-basic-discussion-of-bitcoin-macroeconomy/
mircea_popescu: much more so that fiat CLAIMS to be
mircea_popescu: besides, bitcoin is hugely inflationary.
mircea_popescu: when the fiat bubble is gone we will actually deflate, but the effects of THAT are not judgeable by this.
mircea_popescu: it's just that parachutes do little to protect you from falling objects.
mircea_popescu: in the sense jumping out of a plane and having a piano fall on you yield the same result.
mircea_popescu: it's just the fiat bubble bursting.
mircea_popescu: there is no deflation caught in that discussion at all.
mircea_popescu: you can't "invest" in zimbabwe until their failrency settles down
mircea_popescu: you'd have the same difficulties if you landed in zimbabwe with a trunk full of dollars :
mircea_popescu: but this is an interfacing problem, not a deflation problem
mircea_popescu: this is not on my list. quote!
mircea_popescu: we do?
mircea_popescu: "if all idiots vote in the wot like it is a nationalistic election, you will get a wot that works like your fucking country"
mircea_popescu: this is kind-of the gist of the old mpoe-pr post re personal responsibility
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if YOU vote the wrong guy YOU are screwed.
mircea_popescu: it means few to one which groups in few to one which groups in few to one etc.
mircea_popescu: it's just that "distributed" does not mean one to many, as the nationalist representation of bork would have it.
mircea_popescu: which makes the wot a distributed political system
mircea_popescu: what people in your wot say controls what you do.
mircea_popescu: it's more than trust, tho. it's about control.
mircea_popescu: seems so.
mircea_popescu: i just know girls that know girls that know girls.
mircea_popescu: this is how i find women, incidentally. i don't go into bars.
mircea_popescu: 3 tiers.
mircea_popescu: simple : i ask all the people who know people who pay beer tabs.
mircea_popescu: can i do this ? how ?
mircea_popescu: now, suppose i need to evaluate 10mn beer drinkers.
mircea_popescu: if they do you ditch them and get better ones.
mircea_popescu: right. parft of the definition of even beeing your mates
mircea_popescu: do your beer mates try to trick you into paying for their beer ?
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: this doesn't seem to have anything to do with what i was saying
mircea_popescu: um
mircea_popescu: go into detail.
mircea_popescu: i jus' don't see how this follows.
mircea_popescu: what'd be the inevitable ThickAsThieves ?
mircea_popescu: im not making it up in that this has in fact happened.
mircea_popescu: and the tier 3 guy goes "you know... you reall don't need to escrow mp
mircea_popescu: then one day mp wants to pay a girl in boondock, nj to wash his car with her tits
mircea_popescu: these guys kind-of know each other
mircea_popescu: that guy is tier 3
mircea_popescu: 's a guy that knows the mall and escrows for them
mircea_popescu: there
mircea_popescu: he knows of the wot, and keeps deals with some other people so he can buy/sell btc for his friends at home
mircea_popescu: he's tier 2.
mircea_popescu: they all know this guy down the street, and trust him cause he's cool
mircea_popescu: but look : ten people in boondocks, new jersey somewhere who heard of bitcoin are tier 1
mircea_popescu: how do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: these are necessarily limited in time and exceptional.
mircea_popescu: the nation model only emerges in situations where "the right thing" is plainly obvious
mircea_popescu: game theory indicates it is, too
mircea_popescu: my read of history shows it is, yes.
mircea_popescu: and teh time's tick tock.
mircea_popescu: it's a self-limiting condition.
mircea_popescu: with just one tier you're fucked.
mircea_popescu: with the result of 99.99999% trusting 0.00001%
mircea_popescu: the problem we have now is with the nationalist state of napoleon (and the us which is really just a pale copy) having successfully attacked this natural wot
mircea_popescu: you need about a dozen or so tiers and you're golden.
mircea_popescu: is pretty much the most stable thing in nature.
mircea_popescu: nah, a model where 90% of the population trusts 10% in chunks of ~10 individuals, and then in turn and hten in turn
mircea_popescu: basically, <KRS-> has it : people actually want to be told
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also a web-ish sort of situation.
mircea_popescu: make everything out of web, make everything out of blockchains, make everything out of etc.
mircea_popescu: like... the steak. the milk. YOUR CHAIR"
mircea_popescu: next time you visit it's all like "yo dawg! i hear yu like marzipan so now I made everything out of marzipan!
mircea_popescu: just like some insane dood at your favourite eatery, where you once had some marzipan and like it.
mircea_popescu: and that's what the fucktarded altchainers have been doing to the internet, try to make everything out of web
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually postel's is great for the web. it's just that the web is NOT great for "anything"
mircea_popescu: iirc jurov was trying some experiments with giving anon users root on the box or something
mircea_popescu: ideally it's your slave, as you have the ssh
mircea_popescu: well it'd better not be enough of a whore to do anything any user tells it.
mircea_popescu: what should your server do with requests it doesn't comprehend ? a. drop them b. anything else.
mircea_popescu: if you think about it, that's the stable game-theoretic solution.
mircea_popescu: obviously, it's because scam and racist.
mircea_popescu: nor can they understand WHY is it that you won't let them.
mircea_popescu: which is why normals can't make exchanges, or ipos, or etc.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: that "no certain value" is in there for a reason.
mircea_popescu: is in fact needed."
mircea_popescu: "The problem inflationary currency bestows upon capital allocators is insolvable. They are given money of no certain value (pretty much the only sure thing about the paper currency is that it is, literally, burning in your hands, it ticks away like a bomb, it blows in the wind like dust - all this while you’re holding it) and have to do something with it. They always, always, always, absolutely always have more than
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/
mircea_popescu: that implies that the exchange value of a negotiable instrument is only known after the negotiation completes.
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, is largely what soros vs bank of england was all about)
mircea_popescu: rendering your statement false in the process.
mircea_popescu: and if you could, i could write a bot to exploit your currency and make me rich
mircea_popescu: yes, but you can't form that stance.
mircea_popescu: the us dollar is a negotiable credit instrument, like any paper. it does not have this "fixed" value you wish toassign it.
mircea_popescu: you're trying to live in 1700, which doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: the reason pure mercantilist views are derided by ws today is sound tho.
mircea_popescu: how do you sort out what the word "it" means, ignoring outside inflations ?
mircea_popescu: you don't.