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mircea_popescu: because that'd add a timeout
mircea_popescu: is your mp-wp isntall depending on eg a theme you don't have referencing images that don't exist or w/e ?\
ben_vulpes: .07s to serve robots.txt, .011s to serve phpinfo, .011s to serve phpinfo with a db connection and query
mircea_popescu: does it take just as long for a dummy index.html ?
ben_vulpes: okay now for the next wtf: phpinfo returns instantly, i can open a database connection from php and query for the number of tables, but when i use the mp-wp index.php shit slows to a 2.7 second crawl
mircea_popescu: in a prior life.
sashahsas: Hows it going? Have a few minutes here while I finish eating
ben_vulpes: there are a few threading models in apache as i understand it, prefork, worker and event
sashahsas: Intermittent, had a break to check phone though now.
ckang: yea it just may take her a minute to do it depending on whats going on
ckang: torvalds is a pretty funny guy, some of his rants are great reads
ckang: anyways it was a good discussion i will follow up with him tomorrow, however removing that phrase from the topic might go a long way in smoothing things over a bit
mircea_popescu: at least this one admits it. usg still trying to claim it's a legitimate state.
ckang: well, i can understand his point though. theres a lot of 'proper' types on freenode
mircea_popescu: ckang from experience it's a ticket to fame, but anyways.
ckang: i just want to see this happen, think it would be good for his stuff from a codebase perspective to have other smart eyes looking over the implementation
ckang: but overall seems like a nice guy
ckang: mircea_popescu: hes just worried about his nick being associated with a group that calls themselves a terrorist organization, I suggested that he maybe create an alt nick for the purpose of the discussion and also told him it would be a great review of the project since you all know a good bit about the stuff
ckang: hey mircea_popescu I had a talk to zx2c4 to try and smooth things over a bit
hanbot: on the mp-wp newsfront, i've a pressed genesis via phf's lastest leftwards/keccak vtools. am waiting on pizarro folks to get apache & mod_rewrite going so i can test it and see to the initial patches it'll need. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: douchebag qr code it's not one thing, it has like 30 different versions. there's tiny 21 module v1 to > 150 x 150 modules later. a mid sized item is about 3-400 bits.
douchebag: ill tattoo a QR code on my ass if a BTC reward is involved + tattoo costs
douchebag: I know a couple tattoo artists
asciilifeform: trinque, douchebag : not nearly as permanent as proper tattoo , but low-tech enuff and good for year or 2 -- print a negative and expose under one of those uv lamps that idiots 'suntan' under
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 00:11 asciilifeform: incidentally, quick experiment gives http://www.loper-os.org/pub/512_letter_a.png
asciilifeform: and somewhere after that i posted a demo
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 18:14 asciilifeform: a business card printed on a very spartan (100 'dpi' ) press , gives what, 350 x 200 b&w pixels ;
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 04:43 mircea_popescu: and do me a favour -- not in this lambasting tone!
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 15:47 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796242 << this is a problem of how you phrase your questions. see, the fundamental, and apparently enduring, cockroach here is that you have an "in-control" mental model you won't diverge from, and it is disabling for your mental process in the following way : you judge "you can't contribute" arbitrarily, and damagingly, in the exact sense contemplated in http://trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796272 <-- I'ma examine this cockroach. but tbh, it may be that it's just difficult to be constructive in a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796086 way. for all I know, the thing could be modellable in a simpler way, only they never considered this. imho serious (yet not at all helpful) question if they ever tune in. ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 15:38 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796216 << the whole thing is phrased as "asking questions". one can never be in a rabbit hole so deep they can't ask questions. it's not your job to make any determination, so why stress.
mircea_popescu: someone should do a complete zappa colection, incidentally. he's one of the few worthy of the naggum treatment.
spyked: at some point I should write about how I stumbled upon Loper OS and got pissed off at all computing and started reading the (at the time #b-a) logs. spoiler alert: I was not in ro at the time, but stuck in "civilized" country, which made me even more furious.
spyked: owow, that was 2016. took me a year to /join. :\
mircea_popescu: read the logs, too. a lot of better stuff than just hodling.
maximian: so I’ve been out of the loop for a long time
lobbes: Re: process restarter, I ended up using a method trinque suggested (in logs somewhere but no time to dig): essentially the bot gets started as a child process to the parent proccess
mircea_popescu: but since i've mentioned good, let it be stated that "Let an ultraintelligent machine be defined as a machine that can far surpass all the intellectual activities of any man however clever. Since the design of machines is one of these intellectual activities, an ultraintelligent machine could design even better machines; there would then unquestionably be an 'intelligence explosion,'" is a self-contradictory definition, entir
shinohai: I seem to have acquired a fan that likes pinging it to death or something. Got to read logs deeper
shinohai: In fact, I was the one that recommended a solution to lobbes, re: process restarting.
asciilifeform: but observer, ~everybody has a whole shelf of lappies , even 'with spitting'
ben_vulpes: lobbes: didn't you have a simple process-restarter?
asciilifeform: and i will note , folx like to spit on laptopism, but it is a necessary evil, and asciilifeform for one would like to have a reasonably lappy one day that doesn't weigh 3kg and doesn't eat a 150bux battery erry 3months
asciilifeform: shinohai: you might need a eeprom writer ( with a set of crocodiles ) , possibly
mircea_popescu: obviously, the fiction wank is just the same item cycled. but there was a. .. science-fashionabilia in the 80s.
asciilifeform: ( he had a different paint on it, but otherwise same imho )
asciilifeform: shinohai: and in coupla days there will be a ready gentoo image you can try an' download
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you recall, the thing that got all the inept "science" press hot and bothered in the 80s, and nosnense such as hal 9000 / space odissey etc (ie, the first iteration of "lesswrong" wankery) was a demonstration by sussman & goode that "you can have artificial brains growing in the same way as real ones", ie, neural networks that algorithmically expand
shinohai: While asciilifeform is here on subj of rockchips, is this the type of tablet you referred to a few days prior? https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-C201-Chromebook-Rockchip-Lotus/dp/B01EGBAR4W
asciilifeform: but in principle yes, makes for a ~2003-speed workstation..
mircea_popescu: anyway, anyone wrote a good post mortem for the self-replicating neural network ? i mean, hal 9000 and all that bs, iue fictional retellings. but the actual story ? no interest among the science-fiction set ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it has a rtc , but no battery
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should have used minsky instead, sussman is a) still extant and b) kinda moved away from ai in the idyllic sense towards more practical applications IE SOLD OUT!
BingoBoingo: Now we just need a good source for rubidium clocks
mircea_popescu: sussman never had a mb/s io machine.
asciilifeform: but it is a quite usable, inexpensive physically-isolated gentootron.
asciilifeform: not only sniff test, but , may as well proclaim it here : 1) 6 rockchiptrons are to be installed at pizarro 2) each subscriber gets a clean , asciilifeform-recipe gentoo image to start with 3) 128GB flash by default , upgrades negotiable , talk to ben_vulpes & mod6 4) each machine comes with full kernel src for asciilifeform's custom rockchip kernel recipe
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> in other noose, asciilifeform found that FG connects to rockchiptron with 10cent straight cable, sans usb << Rockchip workstation just became a lot more interesting
asciilifeform: ( thing has ttl-voltaged serial ports and a ready 5v out )
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder how #trilema actually reads from the other side. "i'm a confused girly with adolescent tits and a pretty smile, did they just tell me to go hang naked by the highway ?!?!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: typical 'gox' is moar of a plain paypal / sslism thing, rather than js
mircea_popescu: "* don't take the output of a CSPRNG and pass it through RC4" should have been "don't whiten, fucktard"
BingoBoingo: The lulz are all in that first sentence: "A significant number of past and current cryptocurrency products contain a JavaScript class named SecureRandom(), containing both entropy collection and a PRNG."
BingoBoingo: Anyways, fear of going to jail is a sign of already being in jail
heyleeecx: i dont want to go to jail for being a hooker
mircea_popescu: no. i am saying get over yourself, be a truckstop hooker for a few years until the middle class is washed out of your hair, then do what can be done.
heyleeecx: so you are saying just find a good husband?
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing, as there never was such a thing.
mircea_popescu: heyleeecx this whole "something i'm good at" is fairytale dust, they took the "prince charming" item and translated it for the "empowered, hear her roar" girly. now you gotta find a prince-charming-thingtodo ? gimme a break.
mircea_popescu: asshole "parents" ie child molesters living a century prior at least had the common decency to create a security plan for their fucktoys. yes they kept the "lady" girlies in a cage their whole life, but then also had an entire system whereby someone would come along and marry them.
heyleeecx: i dont think i want to be a prostitute
mircea_popescu: go to the closest highway, preferably wearing shoes only, and see who wants to give you a ride. that's where you start. where do you want to start ffs.
mircea_popescu: heyleeecx think about it : you spent however long, 20 years doing what your parents told you, and what's it got you ? a lot of pressure ? the sad situation where you don't know what to do with yourself ?
BingoBoingo: Wait, are trying to take over or carve out a safe space to act with impunity? I guess really there isn't a difference.
BingoBoingo: Eh, get him a couple pet hamsters. That'll get the cat healthier.
kittycollector: Hes a big baby lol
kittycollector: I haven't, seems like its a touchy area at the moment though.
kittycollector: I could be a crazy cat lady some day, 💯
kittycollector: But would own more if I could, maybe getting a 2nd this summer.
kittycollector: Again I appologize, I didn't mean for it to happen. Have a break at work now.
kittycollector: Hi mircea_popescu - very sorry I sat down to only a second and ended up falling asleep on the couch 😪
heyleeecx: not right now im still deciding what I want to do with the rest of my life, it's a LOTTT of pressure thats been bothering me for awhile
heyleeecx: just hold up for a few
phf: i'm surprised how little mention of it is on the internet. i guess the peculiar multiplayer mode means that it could only be popular in a very few places
phf: the recommended videos for that arcade sokoban reminded me that there used to be a unix bomberman clone, that had multiplayer implemented by connecting to multiple x11 servers and having each window/connection be a separate player. we used to spend nights at moscow state unix room playing that thing on a local lan
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZYUvD6E5pU << apaprently there's also a platformer
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo doesn't she want titmoney ? << Maybe? I am inclined to wait until she tires of paying for things to present the opportunity or I get bored. She's español as a single language and does not understand technology.
mod6: asciilifeform does have a lot on his plate. maybe one of the newer gentlemen want to try their hand at a bot.
asciilifeform: but to be fair 'translator' only turned back into open problem a week or so ago.
asciilifeform: when asciilifeform is no longer catastrophically swamped with 9000 horrors, will possibly attempt a general-purpose bot ( ideally with real, rather than googlistic, dictionaries even )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what are you beefing over, you got a bot, have it translate.
mircea_popescu: it's in this sense an important game in a way doom or warcraft 2 or w/e are not.
mircea_popescu: sokoban is actually a great item because it correctly exposes a primitive -- not of "social discouse" or w/e the fuck, an actual item of reality.
asciilifeform fell in luvv with 'sokoban' as a boy, it was ~the~ game, and only many yrs later realized the appeal: so much like in actual life, player spends good % of time in 'yer phucked, whether know it or not, all yer moves are futile' state
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, that's not even such a bad rule, force escalation. "you got into a mess on your own power, you are forbidden using your own power again until someone else who knows wtf they're doing PUTS YOU IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION".
mircea_popescu: (and this is also why i pronounced http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-one/ as the ultimate hero : because he, unlike "the smarter" lot of them, actually wanted a girlfriend TO USE HER, not so that his dumb head can finally function, oh, $woman-in-head is here to tell me all will be ok, now i can pour myself a glass of milk whereas before--couldn't. this much is categorical advan
asciilifeform: 'It Is Texas Law That When Two Trains Meet Each Other At A Railroad Crossing, Each Shall Come To A Full Stop, And Neither Shall Proceed Until The Other Has Gone'
mircea_popescu: what the fuck do i care "what it all means in the end". let the end fucking care. and how the hell could any process baked in "$the end". imagine if there was a language which required as part of any function call the exit code of the program. wut ?!
BingoBoingo: In other news after spending a Uruguayo/a free night slaying the Inca in bed my mood is not quite so dismal. As long as there's no "want of a nail" cascades alf shouldn't be greeted by Eeyore. This still does nothing to solve the indexing problem.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's evidently a pile of very simple and very useful questions to ask. "Why not send the time ?".