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mp_en_viaje: well, so do you have some kind of bridge for the gaping void of btc-dubaloo conversions for instance ? i remember that was one of the original wtfs.
mp_en_viaje: as i was saying earlier in the proceedings, nsa could very well support this effort ; but it has to be fucking serious not penny ante flavour-of-the-week amateur show.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i dun anticipate buyin' anyffin but rackables until further notice, lol
mp_en_viaje: and if in three weeks this "is solved" in the sense of no longer getting a lot of loglines, and you happen to see a teledildonic telescope on sale, and you buy that, i
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in fact i'm continuing the dig for spare dc's. cuz this is the obvious, kindergarten problem.
mp_en_viaje: but in a coupla years if the dc implodes and you decide you still can't move, i'll ???
mp_en_viaje: now look at the thing from the other side. what am i getting here ?
mp_en_viaje: i for one have entirely no problem with asciilifeform run isp ; but i have major problem with github-isp, like with github anything else.
mp_en_viaje: whereas the narrative of amateurship, also well standardized by now, is rather novel ; completed by about 1880s or so. "this is a thing i do ; but i am not this thing i do".
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: propaganda/l2 growth is ~the~ project. and req's asciilifeform's 'weak arm' to properly exercise. which is 1 of the reasons i took up 'bake isp again'. but presently weak arm. intent is to use strong arm to build exercise machine for weak, among other.
mp_en_viaje: 3. you being a fortunately specified thing, will have also clear needs. "i want 50k/year"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have no intention of housing heathens. specified right off the bat, l1+l2.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: can haz concretely ? 'i won't subscribe until this idjit shows how can actually afford to run working isp' is faircop. but am i even parsing mp_en_viaje's objection correctly ?
mp_en_viaje: it's not "im going to do this for rest of life." it's "this is what i'm gonna do with myself, for rest of life".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:02:14 mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje> this sorta-kinda-and-i-do-what-i-please thingee is of no value and no interest. if you're seruous about committibng the rest of your life to running an isp, we can talk about some business.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i intend to run the cage indefinitely (will house own www also.) and properly.
mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje> if you're just looking for a coupla week's amateur entertainment, i got a whole line of hookers looking for same pounding down my door.
mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje> this sorta-kinda-and-i-do-what-i-please thingee is of no value and no interest. if you're seruous about committibng the rest of your life to running an isp, we can talk about some business.
mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje> no, i'm not interested in sending you a harddrive so maybe you'll do something whatever in your garage.
mp_en_viaje: so as i was saying...
asciilifeform: it is my current understanding, tho, that smg mandates cremation for all disks that it has used ; therefore disks must be owned by smg, and i'ma buy the exact type requested & invoice immediately.
asciilifeform: also available for purchase is the actual, entire box, which i'ma value at 1k usd (not incl. of disks) . then will live at colo rate.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you already set up mirror on leased heathen box, i expect you'll keep it, will bridge interval b/w nao and when proper fgistic, human-built irons are operational.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: right, i see it as unlikely (but afaik still possible) that the old boxen are worth picking up. which is wai i did not wait for output of 'what costs pick up' ; loading up on habitable irons already .
diana_coman: asciilifeform: the part I can't see is how can they end up better shipped from Uruguay than just bought in the US and shipped to you; re the rest I got it and it can wait; onth s.mg servers better online asap since uhm, so far had to even tell new players that no server
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 09:51:05 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946179 << definitely, i'd buy in all republican dcs. which so far has been one.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i've purchased new boxen, because 'time is money' and not yet even known what costs removal. but potentially +ev to remove, req's data from BingoBoingo re carriers, customs shamanics.
asciilifeform: ( which is why i suspect there will be at least 1 new (if smaller) auction . or >1, if, pessimistically, BingoBoingo runs for a spell on personal battery while searching for work )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I'm really in no hurry re pizarro but since there's the talk re how much for the s.mg servers and so on - is there some concrete plan on how will this and all the rest be determined to tidy it all up?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 09:50:40 mp_en_viaje: in the end i suppose whether build new or buy pizarro's comes down to what it costs. what does pizarry want for the two boxes used to run smg servers before ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well, there was the naive assumption on my part that "how hard can it be"; fwiw though I rather doubt it really makes a difference simply because there is no real interaction from the other side either.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i got it fixed meanwhile ; ty.
mp_en_viaje: it's llike watching silviu gherman pick up chicks. "hi i am from the dick people"
mp_en_viaje: i really can't read this nonsense ; it's fucking painful.
mp_en_viaje: [10:24:32] Hey Ahnberg I'm coming from TMSR (http://logs.ossasepia.net). << wtf is wrong with this guy ?
mp_en_viaje: i guess so yeah. ty
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: should I set her up with a ftp account on logs.ossasepia.com?
nicoleci: what am i going to do, copy/paste by hand byte by byte over here?
nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, well i don't atm know what to do. basically there's 6.6mb i'm trying to send you. i tried split -n5 and deedbot's paste still spits (1.3mb chunks, so the limit is only 1mb ???)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 19:38:00 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i actually have a pogo in stock, if you like just-for-you it can be plugged in.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946179 << definitely, i'd buy in all republican dcs. which so far has been one.
mp_en_viaje: in the end i suppose whether build new or buy pizarro's comes down to what it costs. what does pizarry want for the two boxes used to run smg servers before ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 16:50:42 asciilifeform: additionally , if smg would like to operate 1 or moar boxen here in asciilifeform's cage, i'ma happily service, either on transported iron, or on own stock, either worx .
mp_en_viaje: to be perfectly clear, nfi why this keeps gettting forgotten, and thereby needs to be reiterated : the problem of pizarro was NOT!!!! anything even vaguely or remotely similar to "general staff in same trench". in part because eg, i resisted moving trilema whenever you asked, in part because trinque similarily, and so on. we had EXCELLENT partition of services, and principally because you weren't involved with doing it.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946112 << nor do i really want her to.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 12:10:30 asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946045 << i entirely buy the argument. and will also buy ip -- when either asciilifeform figures out how to do it for 'toyota' rather than 'boeing' budget, or -- larger budget ;
mp_en_viaje: http://jswin.github.io/ meanwhile 404s ; i'm sure this is totally how github works yes.
mp_en_viaje: aite. i shall read ; atm buried under a pile but yes
diana_coman: I rather expect it will be quite lulzy too to see the actual output of thousands of userz but at any rate, if by some mysterious working there is something alive in there, it should be found too.
diana_coman: fwiw on irc-project, thimbronion contacted at least oftc, undernet, dalnet and espernet but because 1. he has to improve there 2. they are all into this wank of "us big networkz, no need serverz" , I'll have him get some proper data and write it up to have it in clear: set up some bouncers and log for a while all chans,
BingoBoingo: I've been paying more attention this week to checking the last extension triplet than the preceeding file name parts.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 14:15:42 asciilifeform: aite, let's ask BingoBoingo to dd if=/dev/thatstick | gzip > diana_coman.img.gz and then gpg to asciilifeform . i'ma modify it strictly as required to sit down on new ip and naught else.
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo . i'ma to meat soon, so may have to wait until wakeup.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-17 05:09:47 lobbes: I will apply said patch tomorrow and see if that fixes things
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 256 ( i dun recall there ever being a 128 ? )
asciilifeform: maybe even a hero will stand up who opens a 3rd, even-cheaper rack. (i'll be surprised tho)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for thread-completeness -- by my current reckoning, i can get away with charging <1/2 of what piz cost for colo ; so errybody who lived in piz, oughta be able , for same price, to keep ~2~ (or moar) boxen, e.g. 1 here and 1 in diana_coman's , or even 1 in ea. + barebone in heathendom.
asciilifeform: shelf is nominally 1u, but i'ma set it up under the slot holding the 6in-deep pdu , so effectively 2u of height avail. for what's on that shelf.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i actually have a pogo in stock, if you like just-for-you it can be plugged in.
asciilifeform: as far as i'm concerned , a box is a box, you can set it up how you like.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I don't know about moving blogs right away, but I am interested in a something to spread out the DNS record serving
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's rack is intended to at first house strictly l1 (+ l2 if approved by particular l1) folx. so i dun expect serious congestion of pipe, in near term.
asciilifeform: additionally , if smg would like to operate 1 or moar boxen here in asciilifeform's cage, i'ma happily service, either on transported iron, or on own stock, either worx .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: per my notes, smg was gearing to purchase its inhabited irons (pending delivery of replacements) , this fell down when the rack fell down. i expect if it comes out as +ev , and estimate of time for transportation aint outrageous, mp may want to proceed with said purchase and grab the irons. worth to ask.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: for one thing I did not own any irons with pizarro; for the other, I seriously doubt it's cheaper because of the import whatever.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i intend to move some , but certainly not 100% , of own items, into this cage, aha
diana_coman: asciilifeform: trouble is that I'll still pay for sad hosting elsewhere because there's still the need for diverse locations.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: lolz, not yet; I still need to schedule a meeting with at least a few dc-s within reachable distance; then I'll see; fwiw though atm I don't have any rack-irons anyway
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm beginning to suspect there are folx ~actually~ living in that 1 dc. ( or else wai is there exercise hall, showers... )
diana_coman: then again, I wouldn't quite want to *live* in a dc either and computers seem to multiply in my house as it is so probably not much choice there in the end anyway.
diana_coman: nice; I'll read.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma test w/ own disks, and purchase fresh ones when there are takers
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i think you have some moar taxes there, in europistan
diana_coman: in Europe I mean
diana_coman: not terrible really; I don't think I saw any similar < 1k, last time I looked
diana_coman: asciilifeform: for that matter as far as I know , even hardware is actually cheaper in the USA than in Europe.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm a miser. but, cage is there, gotta fill. i expect there will be inhabitants.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946115 - hopefully he has already a job by the time I get to move anything; I still work full time for s.mg and I fully intend to get eulora off the ground.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 13:21:12 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'll help , to the extent this is possible across ocean.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 14:13:44 asciilifeform: still not calculated what to charge for these, and must do so quickly. i'ma give folx month 'test drive' tho, given the untestedness of the whole orchestra .
asciilifeform: mod6: lemme know if you want that box of yours housed here, i'ma gpg the postage addr.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 14:15:42 asciilifeform: aite, let's ask BingoBoingo to dd if=/dev/thatstick | gzip > diana_coman.img.gz and then gpg to asciilifeform . i'ma modify it strictly as required to sit down on new ip and naught else.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'll help , to the extent this is possible across ocean.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: thank you, that might be useful indeed; it does seem to me that I might not really have many choices other than picking at least a dc within short distance and getting space there + searching them thoroughly for some human; but atm I'm under such a pile of work on all directions that it's not going to happen tomorrow or next week yet.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:45:03 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946023 << fwiw, none of this is anything like that. 100% insane czech 1990s internet over here, i can't comprehend wtf they are doing. then again, the road south is about 50% "men at work" holes by mass (looks like they're making it 3-lane), so i guess once they're done with that maybe they build their comms infrastructure too ? pretty ridoinculous situation tbh.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946076 << ha, and i thought all of europistan had ultramodern net pipe
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946045 << i entirely buy the argument. and will also buy ip -- when either asciilifeform figures out how to do it for 'toyota' rather than 'boeing' budget, or -- larger budget ;
lobbes: and with that, I'm also off to sleep
lobbes: I will apply said patch tomorrow and see if that fixes things
lobbes: but I think I forgot to re-apply the later hanbot patch for html in comments. Possib. BingoBoingo also forgot.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-17 04:55:44 mp_en_viaje: i thinj you folk might've fucked your installs in some manner, for srs.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946083 << hmm, when I did my recent blog resurrection I used hanbot's mp-wp genesis
mp_en_viaje: i mean no leading slash is one thing, but no dbl dash within at all ?! that's nuts, how do you even do http://trilema.com/2015/open-deed-system-for-bitcoin-assets-updated/#comment-111524 ?
mp_en_viaje: i thinj you folk might've fucked your installs in some manner, for srs.
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2019/dance-flick/#comment-131835 << i guess not.
mp_en_viaje: in today's keks : hey lobbes, if i try to add "/me nods along benevolently." as a comment it says "stale page", but if i remove the leading slash it doesn't anymore
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946023 << fwiw, none of this is anything like that. 100% insane czech 1990s internet over here, i can't comprehend wtf they are doing. then again, the road south is about 50% "men at work" holes by mass (looks like they're making it 3-lane), so i guess once they're done with that maybe they build their comms infrastructure too ? pretty ridoinculous situation tbh.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 20:41:09 mp_en_viaje: and, i suppose, file a complaint for theft with your local police station, listing what you recall of what they made off with "and others", and whatever, $10k or w/e the aggregate cost fairly was.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 15:01:31 BingoBoingo: I'm thinking something like: I propose we mutually end this contract. Here's a draft termination agreement for your consideration: [very basic mutual termination letter notably omitting any waiver holding them harmless for their breaches while including a waiver of all claims they may have/invent against me] and ask them what language and terms they want to include in the agreement to avoid "[http://logs.ossasepia
mp_en_viaje: now all'o this said, it's still your show, run it as you please, i'm not about to hold that against you. but i also can't pass all this in silence, take it if it's useful or leave it if not as all advice ever.