mircea_popescu: cads you'll never be popular with the fiat-finance crowds,

mircea_popescu: nevertheless it includes by reference enough material.

mircea_popescu: it is also true of the assets bash.

mircea_popescu: (because you see, everything is in the torah, including the birthdate of your future wife you;ve not yet met, as well as the name of her secret lover)

mircea_popescu: ie, to predict or enact the word of gawd.

mircea_popescu: the kabbalistic approach is to use them in the manner global warmists use their "data"

mircea_popescu: (ie, as to the message processed)

mircea_popescu: cads except that's the correct way to use numeric methods

mircea_popescu: which all amount to basically "let's find the parametric function of the future" or meaning or w/e

mircea_popescu: and various variations and generalisations

mircea_popescu: that, then.

mircea_popescu: benkay you familiar with how if you read only the nth letter in an arbitrary string you may find a message in there ?

mircea_popescu: this is true.

mircea_popescu: benkay but dja know what the kabbalist ppl mostly do ?

mircea_popescu: tjhat thing

mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html

mircea_popescu: cads you seen the predictonator ?

mircea_popescu: re asciilifeform's coin of dry spittle.

mircea_popescu: benkay what do you think numeric/quantitative methods are ?

mircea_popescu: it never ends with you people.

mircea_popescu: now we're knee deep in kaballah,

mircea_popescu: the volatility in this chan is fantasitc, not two hours ago we were discussing the new and improved ordering whereby you get more phonenumber with your order,

mircea_popescu: i have a different model.

mircea_popescu: this remains true no matter how breathtakingly beautiful, elegant or symetrical they be.

mircea_popescu: and what's worse :

mircea_popescu: exactly

mircea_popescu: on which topic n taleb's stuff can't be sufficiently recommended i guess.

mircea_popescu: lest you end up believing your imagination has some bearing on reality.

mircea_popescu: bear in mind that quants are idiots tho. always important to keep this clearly in your head

mircea_popescu: iirc it was free

mircea_popescu: "on becoming a quant", see if you hate it

mircea_popescu: i r guess ms joshi can't hurt

mircea_popescu: pure math no finance ?

mircea_popescu: cads it'd deeply depend on what your background is.

mircea_popescu: you don't disable tokens after use ?

mircea_popescu: um...

mircea_popescu: ty

mircea_popescu: what's the url again ?

mircea_popescu: nanotube was that day like feb 14th ?

mircea_popescu: aha.

mircea_popescu: TomServo who runs it ? do you know ?

mircea_popescu: a ty.

mircea_popescu: nanotube where does gribble get ;;ticker --market btcavg data from ?

mircea_popescu: hmm i wonder where that's from.

mircea_popescu: because i am currently carrying a shitton of puts, which i would contractually be allowed to execute at the 430 bs bitcoincharts price

mircea_popescu: of course...this opnes up a fucking conundrum from hell,

mircea_popescu: by being in -assets i get the chance to learn how mpoebot etc actually work.

mircea_popescu: anyway ppls thanks for bringing it up lol.

mircea_popescu: which i still have no idea how

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla because then somehow (?!) the bitcoincharts avg came out as 537

mircea_popescu: anyway, mpoebot isn't quoting because the derivation among exchanges is too large, and likely won't until this is resolved somehow.

mircea_popescu: it accounted for cases i duly forgot about and then happened

mircea_popescu: no, that's the problem : it did.

mircea_popescu: at a time long ago when nobody had heard of such a case or imagined it likely.

mircea_popescu: benkay the sad part of this of course being that this is actually according to spec i wrote myself.

mircea_popescu: well fuck me am i supposed to know all this code these people write all the time everywhere omfgbbq

mircea_popescu: i was wrong o.o

mircea_popescu: turns out bugpowder is exactly right. bot actually isn't quoting because feeds disagree not because it couldn't get them. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: sooooo

mircea_popescu: dude did bitcoincharts split the feeds or something wtf is going on here.

mircea_popescu: unixtime

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i just gave you above a list of last times it quoted!

mircea_popescu: 537 last

mircea_popescu: but but but wtf, soimehow my bot sees 500ish avgs

mircea_popescu: well this is definite bs.

mircea_popescu: o wow look at that.

mircea_popescu: mnope.

mircea_popescu: it has exactly 0 impact in all this discussion.

mircea_popescu: Bugpowder srsly, mtgox is not even in the feed of bitcoincharts, since days ago.

mircea_popescu: that's the past 12 times it quoted

mircea_popescu: 13924429xx ; 13924424xx ; 13924419xx ; 13924414xx ; 13924408xx ; 13924408xx ; 13924408xx ; 13924403xx ; 13924403xx ; 13923763xx ; 13923724xx ; 13923716xx

mircea_popescu: with all the bitching,

mircea_popescu: one at a time

mircea_popescu: by hand

mircea_popescu: we had to check all satoshis for cubeness

mircea_popescu: no that was because of satoshi malleability.

mircea_popescu: clearly!

mircea_popescu: so make a watcher and do some research.

mircea_popescu: not that i know, but i suppose it's becoming more useful.

mircea_popescu: no but srsly.

mircea_popescu: have you fixed this broken service ?

mircea_popescu: the bot doesn't have to quote any more than you do. where's your quote on options ?

mircea_popescu: i think you misrepresent a convenience for a right.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves dude wtf are you talking about srsly. what is the connection there ?

mircea_popescu: which you know, how much effort can i expend chasing.

mircea_popescu: but yeah, quoting outages are temporary, people (who don't generally trade) like to bitch/find conspiraci explanations for otherwise random events.

mircea_popescu: cuz it's a fucking hassle to fiddle with its feed, it being hardened ;/

mircea_popescu: well to logix

mircea_popescu: so it can't possibly a) look good or bad b) make mpex anything.

mircea_popescu: and that the bot is a private offering which is in principle not required to offer anyone any convenience other than its backers.

mircea_popescu: i am saying that mpex allows people to trade whether the bot quotes or doesn't quote,

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no particular requirement one can't just trade as is you know ?

mircea_popescu: yeah well in this process any data can be fit to any hypothesis.

mircea_popescu: does it tho ?

mircea_popescu: how would it have been sweet yest anyway ? seem sthe price dropped.

mircea_popescu: but i was never able to troubleshoot it

mircea_popescu: i think there may be a cascading effect where if it misses one it asks too often and then it gets banned for an interval

mircea_popescu: yes but it has to answer when the bot asks

mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/faq.html#25 same place.

mircea_popescu: last it quoted was sometime yest.