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assbot: GitHub request to REVERT the removal of CoinBase.com is met with overwhelming support (95%) and yet completely IGNORED. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBv7vM )
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/406s4f/github_request_to_revert_the_removal_of << meanwhile, in the muppet circus
mircea_popescu: you'd naively think no propagation can possibly take this long.
mircea_popescu: aite, it's in a term so i'll say.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> It talks and proposes soft forks and apparently eats a bunch of USD VC money from god knows where << yeah. none of this counts for anything. and i have nfi why they'd get any amount of vote in any discussion re bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently if you paste into sha512sum you get a different result than if you curl and pipe
asciilifeform pictures nsa goon sitting in a submarine on ocean bottom typing on two terminals very very quickly
asciilifeform: the thing that you get !
mircea_popescu: i get a374f57b40cdb645fd1f5eee5e304d6777a02c84d4f449cfefb1f1631c585933daf72c2aecd33383078be87a88701e2634b4542cef3d280ca32eb631432ae661 from that url.
BingoBoingo: It talks and proposes soft forks and apparently eats a bunch of USD VC money from god knows where
BingoBoingo: Oh, their the new power rangers
mircea_popescu: no, i mean in terms of doing things.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo try as i might, i can't fucking recall who the fuck is "blockstream"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the node that was talking to them was 105-112 blocks behind main chain yesterday.
asciilifeform: (new in the selfsigs sense ONLY!!)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> yeah, until karpeles lied about an imaginary cause of stealing people's bitcoin, the other dudes working on wrecking bitcoin didn't have a good excuse. hurr durr. << Blockstream people nao complain too, because their off chain doo dad apparently won't work if any malleability on their transactions is possibru
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guess who can't encrypt to you ;/
asciilifeform: actually strike that
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 13:18:42; mircea_popescu: hey asciilifeform is dulap significantly (~100 blocks) behind the chain ?
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Xenorcara, the OBSD X server man pages should be a start
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/1Y9D568
shinohai: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317139.msg13496128#msg13496128 <<< nevermind he said he hadn't gotten paid but I assured him rest of payments are coming later today.
mircea_popescu: turns out centralisation helps when it's a case of "well bitbet goes to mp and mp runs a lot of other things and so... nope." people who only run one thing have it a lot worse.
mircea_popescu: there's a thing about centralisation in that, i suspect.
shinohai: No one seems to be bitching and crying "scam" and "haxxored" on btctalk anymore so all is well.
mircea_popescu: i must say this has been a very instructive experience.
shinohai: And so trb is at a crossroads :/
mircea_popescu: shinohai it is a double-spend. all malleated txids are.
mircea_popescu: that takes care of ~150 of the ~700 btc that bitbet's been delayed in paying. we will be getting through the rest during the remainder of today.
assbot: BTC Transaction c29e162c79144ced3e8279453067e6d34137a4f4cab864dbf801b906e8f6d45f | BlockCypher ... ( http://bit.ly/1IVWOPY )
shinohai: I saw that earlier, was researching https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/c29e162c79144ced3e8279453067e6d34137a4f4cab864dbf801b906e8f6d45f/
mircea_popescu: sooo... acthung panzers, asciilifeform ben_vulpes mod6 : it is certain beyond any conceivable doubt the trb nodes are isolated - both the publicly advertised ones and at least one not publicly advertised, because lo! what used to be tx e6b8aa9dedef74a7e8961e0d997aebc35aae3c8e762a715336d84b39507c9773 has not only been successfully broadcast but it got malleated, and is now included in the chain as c29e162c79144ced3e827
thestringpuller: worth a try
shinohai: mebbe I can spin up a VM with that particular processor and see what it barfs out for me
thestringpuller: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103023 << thst guy
shinohai: I believe pete_dushenski 's issue was just trying to compile on a 32bit system tho, once he reimaged it worked fine.
shinohai: Wonder why ppl are having debian issues lately, I must have tested this 500 times on various makes of debian
thestringpuller: Linux machine-zero 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue May 13 16:34:35 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux
thestringpuller: "killed by SIGILL" which is the result from illegal instruction
thestringpuller: http://dpaste.com/1KFEQ7B.txt << strace results leading up to the crash
thestringpuller: well before I recompile the whole damn thing, lemme see what strace brings to the surface
thestringpuller: how far does the rabbit hole go?
mircea_popescu: normally i'd say no, but the stuff we've been seeing... dunno anymore.
thestringpuller: i'm compiling on the same machine I'm running it on. did the whole stator+rotor build here
mircea_popescu: (this extends all the way to all the libraries involved, obv.)
mircea_popescu: alternatively : have you done the noob mistake of compiling for / on one platform, and trying to run on another ?
jurov: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/makefile.unix#0074 thestringpuller looks like it's already there, so just remove strip from stator.sh
mircea_popescu: that';s not really how it goes thestringpuller
thestringpuller: p. sure my compy is just too old to run something new that ended up in this thing
jurov: yes, to CFLAGS
mircea_popescu: s +- 100. i think it can be safely concluded that the number they report is simply a marketing gimmick, not connected to anything.
mircea_popescu: heh derpy okcupid. it has this tab that goes "98 visitors average per week". meanwhile they only keep track of the ~100 most recent visitors. the oldest is from 5:59 am, today. the most recent from 8:57 am, also today. so in about 3 hours i get 100, but "on average" during a week i get 98. it's been pretty much like this for at least two weeks now, give or take 5k a week average each day, which they've been reporting a
thestringpuller: grrrr. there should be a "debug" version of the compilation process script
thestringpuller: jurov: do I change this in the make file?
jurov: thestringpuller yes you have to recompile with -g or -ggdb. and not just bitcoin itself but all the libs
mircea_popescu: not going into the details of "if you don't know how to tie a woman, don't try and wing it for the derpy fishwrap that hired you because 'who'd ever know'. people know."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-01-2016#1363995 << that's the sort of poky hipbone i dun like! ☝︎
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel "ignition!" is a pretty choice read.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel no, no dedicated sales people yet. why do you ask?
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for gabriel_laddel from 1 to 2 with note: almost a year later, he got a larger chunk of exercise ball down his gullet than anyone i know of.
mircea_popescu: !rate gabriel_laddel 2 almost a year later, he got a larger chunk of exercise ball down his gullet than anyone i know of.
assbot: You rated user gabriel_laddel on 11-Apr-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: http://gabriel-laddel.github.io/arsttep.html http://gabriel-laddel.github.io/system.html so basically this asshole once decided he'll eat an exercise ball..
mircea_popescu: !rated gabriel_laddel 2 almost a year later, he got a larger chunk of exercise ball down his gullet than anyone i know of.
assbot: You rated user gabriel_laddel on 11-Apr-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: http://gabriel-laddel.github.io/arsttep.html http://gabriel-laddel.github.io/system.html so basically this asshole once decided he'll eat an exercise ball..
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 09:38:41; gabriel_laddel: phf: I've browsed through it, but didn't find what I was looking for. Perhaps if I state my problem someone will know what I need. The goal is to 'fold' the whole notion of X client / server directly into CL function calls. I would like details of how *exactly* X talks to the hardware (Cee sources, yeah) and a large, obvious table as to what all the error codes / X requests are.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-01-2016#1363985 << that is actually a fucking great idea. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: or at least that's what i think.
mircea_popescu: punkman but it's not necessarily surprising seeing the orphanage burner patch.
mircea_popescu: hey asciilifeform is dulap significantly (~100 blocks) behind the chain ? ☟︎
punkman: it does seem that if e6b8aa9ded was indeed in mempool, the error wouldn't say "not found e6b8aa9ded"
mircea_popescu: possibly they are, i dunno. even so, they discuss two different things.
punkman: thought those were 3 continuous lines from the logz
mircea_popescu: now, there MAY be something broken in there somewhere, but i'm not tooled to chase it.
mircea_popescu: since it is questioned about the tx and sends the tx, it necessarily knows about the tx
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 02:15:51; asciilifeform: sending getdata: tx e6b8aa9dedef74a7e896
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-01-2016#1363817 << this is the relevant part. ☝︎
punkman: oic, I'll stop derping then
mircea_popescu: punkman mno. that is an unrelated issue of a 2nd tx. again, it's not surprising, seeing how trb handles chains.
mircea_popescu: you prolly should re-read the discussion.
punkman: all I saw was the tx getting rejected in debug.logz
mircea_popescu: punkman we know for a fact everyone in trb DOES have it in their mempool, actually.
punkman: mircea_popescu: likely nobody has e6b8aa9ded in their mempool
mircea_popescu: not trivially.
mircea_popescu: mno, they accepted one and rejected the rest (which is unsurprising for trb, seeing how the rest were chained on the one)
punkman: mircea_popescu: i've been broadcasting it all night to the trb nodes, you can ask any of them, they should still have it in the memory. << they seem to be rejecting it, so maybe pastebin the raw transaction
mircea_popescu: "... then we'd be out of what we hope to be a very good job". welcome to the exact reason why we accepted "intellectual property" in the first place. and now here we sit, both with the problem unresolved and with the massive infrastructure of the not-working fix for it in place. hurr durr, i wonder what's the problem with western civilisation. it must be the womenz fucking niggaz!
mircea_popescu: "it can not be specified because we don't want to fix it because we don't want anyone to understand how it works because..."
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 08:32:46; punkman: and good god, all this implicitness is code is enough to drive a man crazy
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-01-2016#1363953 << lol what the fuck are they going to do, "solution". is it really so hard to say "they fucked up, it's unfixable", must everything be packaged in this "hopefully the us army takes tikrit with two tootphicks and an empty tube of minty flavoured toothpaste" ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 07:16:11; gabriel_laddel: Oh, and ben do you have any good reading material re rockets? I'm in the mood for something new.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-01-2016#1363951 << oh no you don't. fuck you, keep working on THAT thing wtf. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: femlisp lessonmap fuck now i wanna see this thing.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-01-2016#1363937 << o wow, gabriel_laddel is actually making progress towards his ideal ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 05:58:13; danielpbarron: blissfully unware of the politics of bitcoin until it gets in the way of a payout?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-01-2016#1363931 <<< hey, recall the last fork power rangers did ? the fucking miners are blessfully ignorant of bitcoin politics, what do you want from a random guy. ☝︎
assbot: No Such lAbs (S.NSA), December 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PkeLEh )
assbot: #bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pkf7eh )
mircea_popescu: so i don't have to keep doing this.
mircea_popescu: and maybe even get in the wot.
mircea_popescu: massiro follow the link, there's a list there selected for you.