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mircea_popescu: to defray his $10 a year "investment" in "internet" "business"
mircea_popescu: jurov here's the funny math on the topic : he could identify davout in his logs.
mircea_popescu: people with very flat profiles pushing very determinedly.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is what is meant by the beetleman metaphore.
mircea_popescu: i may be in my slow mode, but i dont follow teh implicashionz.
mircea_popescu: there you go person : someone resurected the kraken harnett & co shat all over in 2012.
mircea_popescu: who was arguing for the good idea=ness of using dead brands ?
mircea_popescu: basically it's a site to meet federal agents posing as people who are trying to buy bitcoins to pay for stolen cards, rite ?
mircea_popescu: wait, that's still in business ? didn't it turn scam a while back ?
mircea_popescu: so basically i can just put the price anywhere by reporting trades on localbitcoins
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know that's pretty serious an issue.
mircea_popescu: seems to be exactly counter to what im trying to do tho
mircea_popescu: peterl i could. and then my own bitcoin and my own planet
mircea_popescu: theres' ANX.HK Justcoin and a bunch of other crap with < 10 btc volume
mircea_popescu: there's officially no bitcoin average price signal out there.
mircea_popescu: 23293.31 from bitstamp, 17237.53 from btc-e, basically this is a joke.
mircea_popescu: herpderp we've taken out mtgox, but we count bitfinex.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is one to trust an avg which includes > 25% pure unadulterated crud.
mircea_popescu: so TIL that bitcoinaverage uses a ton of fictitious volume from crap like bitfines.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, absent any effort for deep understanding of meaning and grammar, no actual language learning takes place.
mircea_popescu: learning more languages never heart anyone, be they computer or natural.
mircea_popescu: I passionately hated PHP for a long time after that, but it's just not relevant enough to my work anymore to hate.
mircea_popescu: In other words, I was unsuccessful in explaining this rather basic concept. They got it blisteringly wrong, and hacked this wrongness into the language for all time. I attempted to explain (much more patiently than here) that no, this is not what === is supposed to do, but I wasn't heard. Not by Zeev, not by anyone else on channel. No one got it at all.
mircea_popescu: does === fail to do object identity testing, it's simply '==', does all the "deep comparison" of ==, but also bothers to compare the type.
mircea_popescu: Amen to the cavalier attitude. You know about PHP's Javascript-esque === operator? (that's the one with three equals signs). That got designed on the spot in an IRC session with Zeev and some other devs. Because I actually had to explain to these folks what the concept of "object identity" was, i.e. what lisp does with 'eq', python does with 'is', and Javascript does with ===. Yes, because PHP's is different. Not only
mircea_popescu: For the same reason, "6" == " 6", "4.2" == "4.20", and "133" == "0133". But note that 133 != 0133, because 0133 is octal. But "0x10" == "16" and "1e3" == "1000"!
mircea_popescu: == converts to numbers when possible ( 123 == "123foo"… although "123" != "123foo"), which means it converts to floats when possible. So large hex strings (like, say, password hashes) may occasionally compare true when they’re not. Even JavaScript doesn’t do this.
mircea_popescu: so according to php is "1" = 1 evaluated to 1, 0 or what ?
mircea_popescu: now show me any other language which actually MAKES programmers.
mircea_popescu: out of which there were maybe even 2 actual programmers.
mircea_popescu: Weak typing (i.e., silent automatic conversion between strings/numbers/et al) is so complex that whatever minor programmer effort is saved is by no means worth it.
mircea_popescu: or w/e, a digital scrapbook for the information superhighway
mircea_popescu: i still don't believe there's anything that even comes close to php for as long as what you're doing is basically... a blog.
mircea_popescu: mike_c what's so insecure about php anyway. it securely failed the === "orly" test
mircea_popescu: to prove this : consider cheating wives. the dumb ones don't.
mircea_popescu: hello multifacepalming logreader people. your facepalms have been foretold.
mircea_popescu: i can hear the collective multifacepalms of log reader ppl already.