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pete_dushenski: is that comic supposed to be... real ?
mircea_popescu: barbie i too can be a computer ideas woman!!1
copypaste: oh right, i forgot that command. i don't chat here often
pete_dushenski: lol there's always ;;later tell
copypaste: just some food for thought :)
copypaste: pete_dushenski: you never seem online at an opportune time for me to tell you this. i think that you should develop your own style instead of copying MP's for contravex. contravex is a cheap knockoff at best to trilema. no one can surmount the original, i wouldn't dare even try writing in MP\s signature style.
assbot: There's a one Bitcoin reward for the death of Pieter Wuille. Details below. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lxiG9S )
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 12:29:15; copypaste: will the bitcoin foundation be accepting "segregated witness" into its client?
mircea_popescu: anyway, im in full agreement with the fellow on the "listen to body" angle. if one can shut up the stupid going on in his head long enough, absolutely amazing feats can be accomplished, such as knowing when to eat and what.
pete_dushenski: "Edward Archer, a computational physiologist at the University of Alabama’s Nutrition Obesity Research Center in Birmingham"
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 06:11:34; mircea_popescu: similarly it'll adapt to anything within reason, and as far as it can help it, beyond any reason. it's only job is to keep you going and it takes it more seriously than you'll ever take anything as long as you live.
pete_dushenski: "The takeaway, Archer said, is that our bodies are adaptable and pretty good at telling us what we need, if we can learn to listen."
pete_dushenski: "So we’re left with our original question: What is a healthy diet? We know the basics — we need sufficient calories and protein to keep our bodies alive. We need nutrients like vitamin C and iron. Beyond that, we may be overthinking it"
assbot: You Can’t Trust What You Read About Nutrition | FiveThirtyEight ... ( http://bit.ly/1JDy6Us )
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asciilifeform: 'when i am gone, they will strangle the lot of you like kittens' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it is bad management not to do a large number of various things that appear counter-intuitive to "intelligent" people. especially to the "civilised" metastasis thereof.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i credit the "bad management" part a lot.
asciilifeform: we don't actually know, afaik, how to make computers without maggotry.
asciilifeform: entirely typical.
mircea_popescu: and of course, alf's favourite part, "Popular until the very end, Digital Group failed in August of 1979 due to management and parts supplier troubles, not a lack of customer interest or product orders. Co-founder Dr. Robert Suding recalled that at the time of the bankruptcy, DG had thousands of product information requests and orders waiting to be filled."
mircea_popescu: ing systems on display at computer shows. Besting the closest competitor by weeks if not months. Contrast that with the common practice of the day, of running ads for a concept product, then using the money from the customer orders to develop the advertised hardware."
mircea_popescu: "Digital Group also offered a very wide range of hardware accessories. If it was available to computer users at the time, it was available to DG system owners, and usually first. A users group of the time reported (and I confirmed in conversation with Dr. Suding) that within two weeks of the release of the Zilog Z80 chip samples, Dr. Suding had finalized the design for the Digital Group Z80 processor card, and had work
mircea_popescu: (where "ux" means "making the user feel smart")
mircea_popescu: " As the tape was read, the screen would fill with the HEX or OCTAL page high address of the byte being loaded, testing the memory content for correctly loaded data as each byte was saved."
asciilifeform: but as in mircea_popescu's essay re: 'can't separate industry from maggotry', the era ~prior to that~ looked like univac and there was a market for mebbe 50 of them.
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wrote about that in his Qntra piece. << this one http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/#fn3-4718 It's cruel to point people to "BingoBoingo's Qntra Piece" without specifying which one, and as time goes on it will only become more cruel.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty much whole 'history of computing' is a story of ascendant charlatans peddling garbage while burying actual thinking folk selling to thinking folk
mircea_popescu: that lisp company isn't the only thing to have sunk irrespective of immense tech advantages in the history of computing.
mircea_popescu: and a keyboard as standard equipment with all of their systems."
mircea_popescu: our times the speed possible with any other manufacturers tape systems, and ten times faster than paper tape -- the only method available at the time for loading Micro Soft BASIC onto the Altair system. Of course, to even do that on an Altair, you had to buy a paper tape reader and an interface. Usually an ASR-33 Teletype and an SIO card. ($$$) By contrast, Digital Group systems included a video and cassette interface
mircea_popescu: This was the "Cadillac of computers". In 1975, when this system was introduced, Altair system owners were flipping switches for hours just to watch lights blink on the front panel of their systems. Digital Group system owners were throwing a power switch and loading an operating system in less than 20 seconds. The cassette interface, standard with DG systems, loaded programs at 1100 baud. At the time, this was nearly f
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and add a ((Mark to be pronounced "Carl" not "four")) on that IV << fixed
mircea_popescu: i dunno why the muricans don't recognize b's merits. he did the integral expansion which is the actual reason it's even useful.
mircea_popescu: it's a basic tool for resolving certain problems in analysis.
mircea_popescu: heck, it's actually one of the oldest ideas in western thought.
mircea_popescu: i dun think the part about how limiting excessive medical procedurizing is the core of sane medicine was at all controversial.
funkenstein_: but I imagine I should hold off on exposing you to further of my dietary nuttery
funkenstein_: good good, thank you :)
mircea_popescu: there is something fundamentally wrong with people, intelligent or otherwise, who can't simply come out and say "mp said no, so it can't be done". just like there's something fundamentally wrong with people who can't simply come out and say "i tried pissing upwind and staying dry - it doesn't work".
copypaste: so that's why at first they were all in support of raising the blocksize, but then they all turned against gavin
copypaste: lol, which caused the xtcoin scam
mircea_popescu: much to the amusement of everyone in the know.
mircea_popescu: pretending that a) didn't happen and then latter that b) if it happened it didn't matter and then even later that c) they did it anyway by themselves!!1
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you were around for / recall this, but after i singlehandedly nixed the original "block expansion" almost a year ago to the day, they spent A FUCKING YEAR
mircea_popescu: and then they get hits called on their stupid heads and "nobody" understands why.
copypaste: even though it's such an obvious flaw ...
copypaste: i haven't seen one mention of the miner defection problem anywhere but b-a
copypaste: the funny thing is, to hear them describe it (luke jr, wuille, antonopolous, and so on) "segwit" (cute name) has no problems whatsoever and softforks are perfectly safe so everyone should start throwing their coins into segwit transactions so as to make the overall "capacity" of the network go up
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 15:49:35; copypaste: so people going along with soft forks are literally just throwing their coins into a blackhole which will be opened whenever miners defect, which is a gaurantee as more muppets follow along with the softfork the potential gain from defecting rises
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1365154 << amusingly enough, asciilifeform has been saying (in general terms) that this is the inexorable future for the river of meat since 4eva. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other words, intelligence is no bar against stupidity. they may be as intelligent as you wish, but certainly dumb as rocks. and so...
copypaste: i see. it's all about mindset, and their mindset is all wrong.
mircea_popescu: in fact... "there aren't many of them, and they're supposed to be intelligent" is not unlike saying "this cow doesn't belong in the pen, it gives a lot of milk which is rare". whether it goes in the pen or puts the would-be farmer in the pen strictly depends on how willing to http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shoot+cop the cow finds itself.
mircea_popescu: intelligence has little to do with it, as it happens.
copypaste: there aren't many of them, and they're supposed to be intelligent
copypaste: but are the core developers really the "masses"?
asciilifeform: ask who? the trees? the grass ?
mircea_popescu: whence would come such a sudden and complete change for the masses ? there is no such thing.
mircea_popescu: same thing. it's what it is. it's what they get.
mircea_popescu: what do they do when they pay taxes ? put money in 401k ?
mircea_popescu: they are doing exactly the same thing they do with their every waking move : banking on the ultimately doomed proposition that "this ledge will hold".
copypaste: how can the "core" devs not see the obvious flaw in this stupidplan?
copypaste: so people going along with soft forks are literally just throwing their coins into a blackhole which will be opened whenever miners defect, which is a gaurantee as more muppets follow along with the softfork the potential gain from defecting rises ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 15:43:30; mircea_popescu: oh check that out, queergender consensus is slowly coallescing that apple fails in 2016.
copypaste: and then collecting all the fees. lol
copypaste: i understand. thank you guys. i can't believe so called coredevs are supporting something which has such obvious problem as defecting miners dumping all transactions that follow the new rules. wtf.
mircea_popescu: oh check that out, queergender consensus is slowly coallescing that apple fails in 2016. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people arguing absurdities on bet resolutions like it happens now and again are actually you know, stranded in an airport somewhere and got nothing better to do until the battery runs out.
mircea_popescu: what if you know, the bet went the other way.
kakobrekla: great planning there.
kakobrekla: the funniest was "pls hurry im traveling and out of cash"
mircea_popescu: sorry bout that.
kakobrekla: great, good to hear angry emails will end soon
mircea_popescu: expect to finish today.
kakobrekla: how are the bb payouts going btw ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wrote about that in his Qntra piece.
thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/#comment-7033 << ultimately it's a resource war TMSR definitely has upperhand here
mircea_popescu: actually, come to think of it...
mircea_popescu: if a billion people starve because their thousands of btc got stolen by greedy miners who saw an opportunity to revert a soft fork and took it - i'll cheer them on. that's a billion idiots less, and an absolutely ideal end state.
mircea_popescu: and if anyone imagines the "you wouldn't be willing to hurt innocents" is going to hold worth one stitch, please kindly review the history of accidental payments to bitbet and all that.
mircea_popescu: miner defection from any and all non-trb approved soft forks is a ~GUARANTEE~ in the future. just a question of when.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 12:45:13; adlai: if you run a full node which has no recognition of segwit, you can still operate normally. segwit is dangerous for a) users of non-full nodes who think they have "SPV security" (whatever that may mean), and b) everybody, if enough utxos use segwit that miner defection becomes a real risk
shinohai: thestringpuller: yup, was going to try and emulate that CPU you showed me. Not sure abt the rest of the architecture tho :/
thestringpuller: i think the issue is with my machine architecture.
thestringpuller: shinohai: you are going to run the VM on the laptop?
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, 0/0 is still an undefined value - inasmuch as their time and effort is actually worthless then it can not be argued that they should stop what they're currentlyu doing.
thestringpuller: ^- this exactly.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, "contributing" to bitcoin outside of b-a / tmsr is a pure and objectively declared waste of time.
mircea_popescu: clearly whether this happens or not is purely a matter of accident, which is to say a matter of time - all the pr derps can do exactly nothing to influence it any way
thestringpuller: yes. and as I told my mom "We can't have nice things cause there are stupid people who ruin it for everyone", i think bitcoin solves this problem effectively, but must stay ever vigilant
mircea_popescu: if that happens, all the "Soft forks" get reverted on the spot, and all the "hard work" and "contributions" go to the same place windows nt codebase went.
mircea_popescu: their projective ability to control the future is also absent, for this reason. consequently, it is not in any sense inconceivable that a situation will come to pass where the maintenance of their derpage requires resources nobody wishes to expend.
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2016 15:58:10; mircea_popescu: THEY however, with their needs to compensate for absent intelligence through the deployment of computing hardware, DO need the shit to "improve".
mircea_popescu: this said, it has to be pointed out that the one thing all these derps have in common is - that they can not afford to pay for the hardware that is required to run their software they've "contributed". (and re this, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-01-2016#1360176 is apropos.) in this sense the economic freestanding value of their "contributions" is null. ☝︎
shinohai: Oh awesum. zzzzzzzzztook me a little longer to get a VM up than I thought, I'm in the process of upgrading to new lappy.
thestringpuller: imo this is why TRB Foundation is so important. it not only decrufts the shitty code but acts as defenders of the blockchain
thestringpuller: shinohai: i gave mod6 access to my box for further diagnostics
thestringpuller: if I broadcast tx and have to use block explorer or god forbid "upgrade" to see it confirm, then I take issue
thestringpuller: this is fine as long as my future trb node can witness transactions being confirmed that it broadcasted.