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adlai is belaboring under
the apprehension
that mircea_popescu may have never
tried
to personally convince somebody poor - incredibly so! -
to hoard btc
mircea_popescu: the poor in all
times and places belong on a conveyor belt
towards a woodchipper. it is however very important
to have a readily accessible door out of
the
tunnel, for any
thinking folk who accidentally fell in.
mircea_popescu: adlai you're not belabouring under
the misapprehension
that i expect all
to be saved, are you ?
the point is not
that.
the point is for
there
to be a way for
the scant few who don't belong
there
to save
themselves.
adlai has friends who can't afford
to save bitcoin, because
they buy useless shit (incl drugs, and music, and fancy food, etc) instead of "paying
themselves first"
mircea_popescu: that bitcoin allows
the poor a venue
to actually accumulate capital is really all
that matters, for
the well being of
the world generally.
adlai: you must not have met any
truly poor people, but
that's
to be expected i guess?
mircea_popescu: that is
the only social function poor people actually need : a path out of poverty.
mircea_popescu: not so. it is extremely useful : it allows
them
to save.
adlai: mircea_popescu:
this is because
today, bitcoin is useless for poor people, and will remain so, without a reasonably reliable write-cache
mircea_popescu: "I stuck it on a github repo, which includes a
tarball of
the code with detached signature. You can also grab it as a vpatch with seal if you like. You might see some nodes reporting version 77777;
that's what it will claim
to be if you run it without modification."
mircea_popescu: hahaha check
thios dude out : "Some of you may be aware of a project called "therealbitcoin" and some of its development history. Over
the last few days I forked
the project, dropped in
the woodcoin genesis block, genesis merkle root,
the skein woodcutting algorithm,
the logarithmic supply curve,
the relevant difficulty adjust parameters, and
the magic header code:"
adlai somehow doubts
this alt will see more usage
than pushcoin
adlai: ;;later
tell copypaste fwiw, I'm fully in favor of segregated witness being implemented and available for
those who see fit
to use it.
the main problem is one of education; users need
to understand
that
there's bitcoin, and
there's anyonecanspend-witcoin
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: exactly. and
they probably are saying
to
themselves secretly "oh
tmsr will fix it"
mircea_popescu: well
that's
the only fucking end result when illiterate people get involved in "fixing" shit
they didn't read.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu:
there is
this comic called "The Boys" where superheroes are just a
thing. Anyhow super heroes cause more
trouble
than what it's worth.
To solve one problem
the fuck up 100 other
things, so "The Boys" are sent in
to keep
the peace. I've realized
the power rangers do exactly
that. Very public displays of "whatever fix", which ends up breaking 50 other
things
that have
to eventually be fixed.
mircea_popescu: so i'm
taking an educated guess : it's because bad math.
mircea_popescu: in particular, it's why calorimetric
theory was unverifiable. and so on.
mircea_popescu: this was
the exact description of a "bad math" situation htroughout
the history of science.
mircea_popescu: i don't need it
to answer absolutely. i just need it
to reduce by a factor of 10^20 rather
than by a factor of maybe 10^3
mircea_popescu: but not provable
that a good heuristic intermediate between "closed form" and "fuck you" is absent for fundamental reasons.
mircea_popescu: yes but
that because bad math more
than anything else.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i have no interest in designing molecular structures myself. i am mostly interested in simulating
the interactions of easily-procured precursors in lots and lots of sims, varying lots and lots of variables in
the sim, in order
to crap out eg simple logic gates
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the general lack of personal integrity in
the angloworld is quite
the sad spectacle, huh.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 20:15:26; BingoBoingo: Did
this Kristov Atlas fellow ever have a presence in either WoT,
this is
the stupid sort of
twitter rambling
that demands an ideological negrate
https://archive.is/fIuTA mircea_popescu: hey check
that out, zimmerman makes nsa-phone and david chaum makes nsa-gossipd.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 20:07:18; asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu will probably
tell us
that he oughta have shot a cop somewhere.
mircea_popescu: the dns derps keep going on about how important and bla bla
they are - but by comparison
they're 13yo's at
the beach, making sandcastles.
thestringpuller: i dunno if
this is case, cause not like miners publicize
their nodes (or maybe
they do, i'm still investigating)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i was just saying if miners receive
tx's
to mine via PRB code
then it'll isolate
mircea_popescu: it should also not be
the case
that
there isn't a
trb path between you and miners.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it shouldn't be
the case
that you're connected exclusively
to prb nodes.
thestringpuller: Basically all "new" PRB-nodes will refuse
to relay high-S
tx's
to
the network. Miners will still mine
them
though. But interesting
that a high-s
transaction has high probability
to get fellated and malleated by network before being mined.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 19:45:08; BingoBoingo: "In an interview with Wired, Mr. Chaum revealed
that,
to prevent cybercrime and other nefarious groups from using
their network,
the researchers behind
this initiative are planning
to create a PrivaTegrity Council."
BingoBoingo right now just wondering on
the holy grail of sealed FeNi batteries which would make wizard
tower pissibru
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes already build his wizard
tower?
ben_vulpes: your reports are from a different universe from
that which i inhabit
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: More
than any dietary change, avoiding morbid Obeasts will materially improve your health. Give it a
try for 30 day, see
the improvement in your life.
BingoBoingo: Seriously Obeasts are only a hazard
to
themselves? Does he even consider
the pathogens people who can't clean
their ass spread everyday as
they go about sitting and leaning on public spaces.
assbot: Kristov Atlas on
Twitter: "@bboingo @bboingo @pierre_rochard @rogerkver right, but a firefighter's job presently is
to
take on physical risk." ... (
http://bit.ly/1ZeNJne )
BingoBoingo: Did
this Kristov Atlas fellow ever have a presence in either WoT,
this is
the stupid sort of
twitter rambling
that demands an ideological negrate
https://archive.is/fIuTA ☟︎ assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 19:45:08; BingoBoingo: "In an interview with Wired, Mr. Chaum revealed
that,
to prevent cybercrime and other nefarious groups from using
their network,
the researchers behind
this initiative are planning
to create a PrivaTegrity Council."
pete_dushenski: probably
the same logic bobby lee used
to arrive at
the 'must have 2mb blocks' conclusion
pete_dushenski: in other 'how would you know' nyooz, ""Everyone in our pool is making money, because people who aren't making money would not have
their machines
turned on," BTCC's Lee said."
pete_dushenski: i
thought
the whole 'maker'
thing woulda died when 3d printing didn't put home depot out of business in 12 months flat. guess not eh
BingoBoingo: Not
to mention shaping proteins is hard bsns
mircea_popescu: "Writer and Maker. Editor for
TechCrunch." heh. ever novel ways
to say "nobody doing nothing, ignore me please"
mircea_popescu: it'll
take you forever
to find out it doesn't work, sorta
thing.
ben_vulpes is operating under a severe cognition deficit
today. weird bugs in
the blood.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i've been
thinking a lot about proteins lately
pete_dushenski: "The bitcoin infrastructure is excellent, secure, and powerful in
the abstract. In practice it is useless… but not for long." <<
try death warrants with paypal.
pete_dushenski: "In short, right now
the bitcoin infrastructure is insufficient
to support
the unbanked.
This must and will change. Before we begin, a bit of disclosure: I’ve been researching
this for my on project, Freemit, and I’ve been
talking
talking
to startups in
this space." << so much
talking
pete_dushenski: " and all have
to agree
to release information about users
to any government inquiring for data." << 9/9 multi-sig !
BingoBoingo: Just a man, pretending
to be a man, pretending
to be another man.
BingoBoingo: "This council will provide access
to data about users
to law enforcement, but only for
those who use
the network for criminal activities.
This council will have nine members from across
the world, and all have
to agree
to release information about users
to any government inquiring for data."
BingoBoingo: "In an interview with Wired, Mr. Chaum revealed
that,
to prevent cybercrime and other nefarious groups from using
their network,
the researchers behind
this initiative are planning
to create a PrivaTegrity Council."
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