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jurov: what does DNS-replacement-by-v need
to be done? just
take your /etc/hosts, sign and publish, no?
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the first accounts are from early june, so "nigh on a year" ain'\t really fair. half year.
mircea_popescu: eulora record is actually a guy with 13919282 connecterd
time.
thestringpuller: the
time sinks in
those games are relative unfortunately because it's more effective
to leave player wanting more,
thus AAA publisher forces studio
to make another game
mircea_popescu: for
that matter, usual graphics intensive "AAA"
title has what, 50 hours in it ? if not 30.
mircea_popescu: not so far. ironically... if you go by a
timeplay metric, december saw 64722 player-hours, which is seriously more
than what MOST games see.
thestringpuller: but in essence eulora is more
than a game, and more of a living world
that people virtually inhabit
thestringpuller: cause "consumer has come
to expect" but I don't
think consumers will be problem for eulora
mircea_popescu: of course, no major player quit yet.
that's usually a principal source of excess goods
thestringpuller: reminds me distinctly of star wars galaxies before Sony ruined
the game.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu:
this insatiable need for materials will only increase when people start killing
things and going
to war etc.
mircea_popescu: considering it's been played for nigh on a year and people don't even know wtf
those rules even are...
mircea_popescu: i honestly believe it's
the best done game, as far as
the underlying "rules" go. owner delusion or not.
copypaste: i mean poorly done in
the community sense, in
the conomy sense, in
the sense of rules
copypaste: i very much love
the concept of a 3d game with a bitcoin economy. i've played a few, but all poorly done.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and in fact from
the micro perspective i dun recall anything being offered for sale and not selling, yet.
mircea_popescu: one of
the most encouraging
things about eulora's economy
that i see myself is - i keep a running
total of player cash and of player assets. and
the latter has been a monotonously increasing function ever since forever.
the appetite for materials seems outright insatiable.
jurov: copypaste: and do paste
the compiler log (whole if possible).
copypaste: perhaps i could even make a PKGBUILD if i get it
to work, if it pleases you guys
jurov: so if you get further, you can at least publish
them
jurov: wywialm failed on problems
to find corrswtionding arch packages
mircea_popescu: aha.
there's a buncha people
that can prolly halp if you get a specific error.
copypaste: i only remembered as i was sorting my inbox and saw
the invitation again
copypaste: it was getting late so i just shut down and
then got busy with other
things
copypaste: i had some compiler error, i'll have
to
try again
to bring it back up
copypaste: arch linux x86_64, and shitty pinoy internet
to boot
thestringpuller: i'm waiting for combat/dungeon crawling before I start
to get heavily invested.
thestringpuller: that's understandable. it's like playing dwarf fortress for
the first
time I 'spose
copypaste: i keep
trying on and off
to
take MP's invitation
to play, but i keep being dissuaded by
the large effort required on my part :p
copypaste: i wish
there were a statically compiled eulora without all
these dependencies
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 11:16:03; jurov: no, home, usually in
the
tub
copypaste: mircea_popescu: i suspect i also had an incorrect idea of my involvement with
that
thing
jurov: as you can see i've woken up, still have a half a day
to go
mircea_popescu: i
tend
to do
this "X's item" because
that's how
the republic works. obviously, not how
the fiatosphere does.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 06:52:12; copypaste: renegotiation of
that contract would have
to be with ads@8ch.net <Jim Watkins>, not me
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:48:18; *: adlai will have
to implement his own, so it runs on his 'pogo'
gribble: guruvan was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 13 weeks, 4 days, 20 hours, 8 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <guruvan> have
the right key in
there?
mircea_popescu: lettuce see what
trinque ben_vulpes mod6 asciilifeform davout jurov kakobrekla & co say when
they wakeup
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it also introduces a kinda dubious but possibly useful ddos protector, in
the sense
that one can run different ips for
the meatriver and for
the wotdns.
mircea_popescu: it can even run as an antispam service in parallel. if i go 127.0.0.1 doubleclick.net in my file, you won't be seeing any ads from
them in your browser, no matter what
they do.
mircea_popescu: hey panzers... we actually game
to doing
this ? it really dun cost much and it does resolve an actual problem, provide a serious incentive
to participate, makes nice media headlines... low hanging fruit.
mircea_popescu: and incidentally, how
the dns was actually designed
to be used.
the current centralist windowstardian webstupidity only works
the way it works because of
the userbase.
the design is fine, but "everyone"| and "has come
to expect" and bullshit like
that make people pretend like a suboptimal local maximum is relevant
to
the graph. well... it ain't.
mircea_popescu: "i want
to use
the dns for back-up, whenever what ~these~ people use doesn't contain an answer". seems pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: in fact, v-powered /etc/hosts may even be a serious improvement over
the current situation.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, a bitcoin vanity address with five specified letters (out of
the whole set)
takes a day.
mircea_popescu: yes, naming can work like
that, if 8chan.co and 94875984375983.jksldak are
the same
to you.
☟︎ copypaste: dns was good in
the
time of fiat, it's worthless for
the new paradigm.
copypaste: you can;'t
take it away from me unless you get
the key.
that's how naming should be.
copypaste: i own
this private key, i own domain derpxxxxx.onion.
copypaste: it's already like
that on
the
tor network.
copypaste: naming based on
the bitcoin blockchain is best. i own
this bitcoin private key, i own
this domain.
copypaste: i don't see why naming has
to be
this way.
mircea_popescu: who
the fuck do you
think you are
that
they'd bother
to "bid it off" ?
they won't bid it off in front of you,
they'll just ignore your delusion.
assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 13:23:33; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300279 << so a) you'll spend your life driving between bickering nuts.
this is a worse deal
than what psychs get, at least
there you gotta drive
to his office. ; b)
the blockchain and everything else is entirely superfluous here. your entire idea is "hey, make me
the mp of renting in south africa". maybe
they will or maybe
they won't but you really don'
mircea_popescu: naming is by its nature
this :
that
there will be a group in power, allocating
the names, and everyone else can go suck it.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this goes all
the way down
to actual working of language. do we power
the ns
that calls me racist and evil ? do we power
the ns
that calls
tess d'urberville or w/e her name is fat and obama an idiot ?
adlai wasn't aware
that
there was one single blessed version, DNS is just
the good-enough fiat leftover
that we have
today
mircea_popescu: if
they change
that behaviour,
the world will re-arrange and so on.
mircea_popescu: and every derp out
there in indonesia or peru or wherever saving in dollars in preference of my currency, or his president's currency, has given usg such power.
adlai: someday somebody will care enough about
this
to cannibalize what's left of namecoin and build a proper Bitcoin DNS
mircea_popescu: well yes. your choices are : either have enough power / capiutal / value
to acquire enough actual btc
to matter in
that world ; or else
to get used
to not mattering in
the world ; or else
to have even more power and force an alt into being.
copypaste: ICANN has given
themselves authority
to make new
TLDs, ICANN has given
themselves ultimate authority over names
copypaste: oh sure, but you don't get
to create names on
the real DNS
mircea_popescu: heck,
there was a bitcoin-based
thing
that kinda worked on
that premise. namecoin.
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact you can run a dns server right now, and
tell everyone
to use it, and for everyone who does use it... your version of
the ns will be visible.
mircea_popescu: well, yes, because it wasn't made by idiots. but
the fundamental point remains : someone excluded could re-use
that article by re-writing 5 words.
mircea_popescu: obviously EVERY naming system will work exactly like
the dns, or like
the wot works : either be at
the
table, or be a child looking for parents.
mircea_popescu: for one
thing, if half a mil is " you can just forget about
that right away."
to you,
then on what
the fuck is your expectation
to participate in
the workings of society based ?!
mircea_popescu: so guy is pissed off and likes
to call
things names. fine.
copypaste: do you have a comment on
the kimmoa.se article? i
think it's spot on but you definitely know all
the details already