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jurov: <ThomasV> [20151130 17:24]
that's my point. I
think nobody would use a closed source fork
jurov: <Tribaal> [20151130 17:23]
ThomasV: How so? If my fork steals your wallet, I would be pretty sure you'd mind :)
jurov: <ThomasV> [20151130 17:22]
Tribaal: I would not be
too concerned about closed-source forks, in
the case of Bitcoin software.
mircea_popescu: same fucking
thing with "bitcoin dev companies", however many different groups are running
this scam by now.
mircea_popescu: fuck you with a fucking stick, who
the heck is supposed
to fall for
this ?
mircea_popescu: fucking emblematic of
the new usa : "1. hey, we're
trying
to save
the world, help us ; 2. hey,
the rate at which new people join
to help us dropped off so now we'll build an oil refinery instead, maybe shell wants
to buy one!"
mircea_popescu: might even make a good qntra piece.
this sort of miserable behaviour needs some castigation.,
jurov: "Hello,
thanks for asking, but I refuse
to change
the license of my contribution. I cannot with clear conscience recommend a Bitcoin wallet with closed source modifications. Would you use one yourself, really?"
ascii_butugychag: usg 'fought'
to churn inventory and guarantee lockheed et al earmarks.
mircea_popescu: wake me up when your imperial/european drill bits produced a robot
that routed
the usg at
tikrit.
guruvan: well...that's just gonna mean
they don't like you :-
mircea_popescu: and i'm one of
the few guys
that publicly burned
the coran.
mircea_popescu: it's shameful. if you're going
to prostitute yourself, at least do
the world a favour and do it in istanbul, in
the nude, in
the dedicated quarter for ephebs
mircea_popescu: so everything starts as gpl, welcomes any sucker foss head
to contribute,
then "progresses"
to a mit license and hey, maybe apple wants
to buy it!
mircea_popescu: but it seems par for
the course. all
the pimply faced wanna-be bill gates business majors know how
to do anymore is cast out a net for suckers, wait until
the rate of catch stops, and
then
try
to spin it off and sell it.
jurov: "Secondly, we want
to release a new version of Electrum for mobile devices and
tablets. In order
to make Electrum available in various app stores (such as Microsoft's Windows Store or Apple's App Store) we cannot keep
the restrictive GPL license, as publishing Electrum on some of
these stores may break
the
terms of
the GPL."
jurov: "I need your agreement in order
to republish your contributions under
the MIT license.
The reason for relicensing Electrum is
two-fold: firstly, we want
to make Electrum more attractive
to developers looking
to integrate lightweight Bitcoin functionality into
their systems, and a more permissive license is helpful in
this regard."
thestringpuller: the dude who had
to move
to
tokyo cause US wouldn't let him visit?
thestringpuller: next on bitcoin scammers in VC world: "Coinbase sues Peter
Todd for 0.01btc"
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> but in either case, a liver largely consisting of scar
tissue is not an argument against having had a liver in
the first place. << B.. But Discriminashun, Cundishuns...
punkman: wonky definition but I like
the name
punkman: "Postel
tarpit (n.) - A system
that has
tried so hard
to accept all possible input
that any change becomes backwards-incompatible"
ascii_butugychag: actually like most folks living in usa who do any machine work, i own
two sets of everything.
mircea_popescu: more's
the point : when you calculate for your own reckoning, do you use inches or milimeters ?
mircea_popescu: believe it or not, latin numeral calculation IS actually possible. and
they had all sorts of
tricks,
too
phf: as far as i understand,
the point is
to walk with mp
to his vantage point
to see something or other. for example
that
the railroad runs from hitlertown
to
the work camps. pretty sure he'll just be delighted if you invited him
to your own private railroad
that goes from your living quarters
to your wineries.
ascii_butugychag: (on my own desk, it is more
than an idea, but
this is not official yet)
ascii_butugychag: but since it was referred
to, i assumed mircea_popescu was
thinking of
the idea.
mircea_popescu: yet all
the wires being in
the hand of hitler doth make you
take an interest in gossipds.
ascii_butugychag: not 'save some
time.' but ABLE
TO DEAL IN CONCEPTS of
the level i deal in, AT ALL
ascii_butugychag: if all of
the railroads are in
the hands of hitler, it does not follow
that i ought
to
take an interest in
travel by oxcart.
mircea_popescu: this "abstractions"
thing mostly works for
thine enemies.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason unicode wars (you know,
the
thing with
the integral ?) are mostly around "how
to color figurines" now.
ascii_butugychag: nah she exists for
the same reason electrical wires running
to my house are warm
mircea_popescu: which by now is so pervasive even ged-educated nigger in
the ghetto knows enough
to scream "you don't know what it's like"
ascii_butugychag: i
thought it was because it was solid brick with no flotational volume ?
mircea_popescu: the only reason she exists is
the perhaps well intended, but also castrated inclination of educated males
to go "oh, i wonder what
the hyeroglypsh mean, can't be discarded out of hand"
mircea_popescu: the only reason her bullshit sinks, however, is
that i do not permit symbologistics.
mircea_popescu: i don't
think
the postmodern symbological deluge has any sort of match or point of comparison.
mircea_popescu: BUT if
the symbol "activist" ran into any
trouble...
there's a newly minted "educator" symbol
to
the rescue.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: she has not actually anything
to say
to it. she;'s some 25 yo from nowhere who has figured out which side
the butter's breaded on and is off
to washington
to live with alfie.
ascii_butugychag: but in either case, a liver largely consisting of scar
tissue is not an argument against having had a liver in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: look at lacan's "work"
to
truly see what i mean, and look at all
the junk coming out of
the usg's 3rd generation
to
truly know what i mean
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:45:40; phf: i've spent most of my college years learning math by sometimes
translating problem into sexp and running it inside lisp,
to get a hang of
the numeric or combinatoric behavior of
the problem.
there were parts of
the problem
that were easier
to grok in sexp and
then
there were parts
that i eventually wrote an approximation of latex formula reader for. i don't really have a clear idea of where
the boundry is
thoug
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:36:12; mircea_popescu: if you're lucky and enough work has been put on doing
the
transforms
that a function was found. plenty of
times
the
transformation's either not obviously or not at all formalizable.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:33:28; mircea_popescu: yes you can figure out what quarks do in either matriceal or formulaic form. but if you can't afterwards SAY what
the fuck you found
to either heisenberg or schroedinger,
the problem's in your head.
mircea_popescu: phf
to
that
the obvious counter is
that sure, but before you've reached a point where you can actually speak of it... it's premature
to speak of it ?
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:46:27; mircea_popescu:
this "you gotta run
the city in which i wrote
the letter
to read
the letter"
thing is for
the birds.
phf: my impression of
traditional education is
that when everything doesn't fit in your head, you continue cramming it, until in
the flash of insight, a way of restructuring
the
tree comes
to you. in
this case notation allows for a caching mechanism. somewhere on a blackboard
there's a cluster of meaning,
that you no longer have in your head, because head is full, so having
that cluster contain higher density of information allows for a more
mircea_popescu: you'll note
that variety speak or no variety speak, i can explain
the whole
thing or any part
to anyone of any persuasion.
that i may not feel like expending
the effort for any random derp is
true, but also not germane.
mircea_popescu: you restructure
the abstraction
tree, which is clearly broken.
mircea_popescu: this "you gotta run
the city in which i wrote
the letter
to read
the letter"
thing is for
the birds.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: importantly,
the boundary must be where another begins and you end.
phf: i've spent most of my college years learning math by sometimes
translating problem into sexp and running it inside lisp,
to get a hang of
the numeric or combinatoric behavior of
the problem.
there were parts of
the problem
that were easier
to grok in sexp and
then
there were parts
that i eventually wrote an approximation of latex formula reader for. i don't really have a clear idea of where
the boundry is
though
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, afaik hostaliases is standaerd on all linuxen, but it runs into problems with sanitation, for
things
that run as root
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
technically you could only put your own pubkey in
there, and still let everyone else benefit from yours
ben_vulpes: is HOSTALIASES a
thing on linuxen besides ubuntu? v-dns sounds nifty, but i'd like
to maintain my own entries.
mircea_popescu: which reminds me of our very own brave sir gabriel_laddel and his x.org
thing
mircea_popescu: i can if you wish pick a page of strings
theory for you
to
transform into any other
theoretical framweork of your choice. but might as well
take a page of source from gcc and write
the lisp.
mircea_popescu: if you're lucky and enough work has been put on doing
the
transforms
that a function was found. plenty of
times
the
transformation's either not obviously or not at all formalizable.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's one
thing
to figure something out. it's another
thing
to figure out what you figured out. and so on.
phf: that's like chinese math,
transformation on formulas carried out mechanically by memorizing
the book
mircea_popescu: yes you can figure out what quarks do in either matriceal or formulaic form. but if you can't afterwards SAY what
the fuck you found
to either heisenberg or schroedinger,
the problem's in your head.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <phf> presumably mp disagrees with iverson's "notation as a
tool of
thought" paper in principle << i do not. i do however disagree with
the
theory
that
tool is substitute sufficient.
BingoBoingo: From
the mines: "Page C3 of
today's NYT in print: "It's a good
time
to be David Bowie.""
ascii_butugychag: as if using longhand made
text somehow magically comprehensible
to all and unpriestlike.