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mircea_popescu: dude five minutes ago we were in perfect agreement on complex math stuff, now i have no idea even what you're on about.
mircea_popescu: not missing the point is not something you can do on your own ?
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan so then act that way don't expect that way :D
mircea_popescu: if she finds a new type of berries, you really expect her to run home and come back with a new type of berry bag ?
mircea_popescu: jurov you going to go for a "what they think they see is not what is there thus no recognition could have taken place" ?
mircea_popescu: today what shocks me about the soviet aparatchicks is how horribly uncomfortable their stuff is.
mircea_popescu: one thing that always shocked me about soviet aparatchicks was how horribly bad their suits were.
mircea_popescu: sure. lawsky will probably invent a whole new way of fucking women in your office
mircea_popescu: take the great plague. what difference does the church pronouncement against a great plague, or for it, or about it
mircea_popescu: there's no such power of expression function that can be discussed over the set.
mircea_popescu: in the sense that at the time french didn't exist latin had been used continuously by millions for millenia
mircea_popescu: "they'll fuck up the values of our variables and break all the code"
mircea_popescu: benkay no. "it will take more than they can carry to teach them what we mean by all the words"
mircea_popescu: the original argument against moving away from latin service in church. "what and lose all that abstraction power ?!?!"
mircea_popescu: benkay the original argument against teaching the plebs to write.
mircea_popescu: that's why the scapegoat is NOT a "horrible crime" in a 1700s culture, but quite fucking required, sane and reasonable.
mircea_popescu: all flow from trying to keep the machine as sharp as possible.
mircea_popescu: and a whole slew of things such as group selection, and marginalisation, etc
mircea_popescu: that's why it takles 197 fucking years to even compute anything usable.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan that's the beauty of natural language vs math.
mircea_popescu: but it IS a better fit than the modern climate science.
mircea_popescu: it's not either very good or very fixable (or actionable, scientifically)
mircea_popescu: will make and diffuse observations, which is not so unlike asciilifeform's light problem solver yest.
mircea_popescu: so a bunch of derps cca 1700 who are desperately aware of farming, cause their life depends on it
mircea_popescu: much like bitcoin is running on supercomputers but basically oding some very primitive scripting.
mircea_popescu: let's say that we are chemical machines which fit a very primitive lua.
mircea_popescu: you perhaps imagine mankind hasn't been using computers before the numeric machines. this would be false.
mircea_popescu: i think you underestimate the majorly powerful computer natural language is.
mircea_popescu: not knowing you can do complex poly fitting means you'll just draw a line through the datapoints
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan nah, they simply don't know math. that's their saving grace.
mircea_popescu: benkay the book is better, strictly because it doesn't have the tools to overfit with.
mircea_popescu: it'll drain somewhere. you don't really want to buy the riverbed, i guess, but if you disperse your ownership you gotta average out ok.
mircea_popescu: obviously some places will be better and others worse, but we're discussing the birdseye view here
mircea_popescu: im not a geologist employed by a venture fund trying to buy siberian lands, so what do i care about the water table et all.
mircea_popescu: they overfit to all hell, which is the bane of noobs and politicos in science.
mircea_popescu: This exceptionally cold and snowy winter has shown that government climate scientists were dead wrong when it came to predicting just how cold this winter would be, while the 197-year old Farmers’ Almanac predicted this winter would be “bitterly cold”.