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mod6: feel free to elaborate on this if you wish, punindented. he brought it up to me, i said, "hey, go nuts!"
mod6: there's a guy actually writing a js one too lol
mod6: well, to BingoBoingo's point... Alf provided the first implementation and POC, i just took it a few steps further in mine.
mod6: the idea of V is a versioning system based upon patches that include SHA512 hashes of the file before and after the given patch is applied -- and checks the given signatures of the wot entities who have signed off on the patch. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: guruvan: asciilifeform delivered the first implementation and mod6 took over maintenance.
mod6: that would be the bees knees.
guruvan: I'll get it figured out and get this all in there then
guruvan: I've never heard of this at all
guruvan: is V something y'all threw together?
mod6: on my list of things to work on is also a high-level document for V -- sort of an RFC. that'd probably be better to start with, but sadly doesn't exist yet.
mod6: ya, there is a quick-start guide, and a full run down of functionallity provided. might be worth a read through before you dig in.
assbot: [BTC-dev] mod6's V [in perl] version 99997 K with Cucumber Tests & Testing Guide Included ... ( http://bit.ly/1JRtpXi )
guruvan: point to primer on V ?
assbot: [BTC-dev] (CORRECTED) Bullet in the Forehead for the BDB LocksIdiocy ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWNo0i )
BingoBoingo: guruvan: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000139.html I believe it is in the latest Test 2 bundle
shinohai: I finally got V to work for me just hours ago.
guruvan: BingoBoingo: can you point me to a patch - I'll make the change
guruvan: you bet - I'll put out some more once I have the V figured out - that's just some thing that works - uses older big phusion ubuntu image underneath
mod6: no worries atm. but yeah, awesome work. thanks for doing that
guruvan: mod6: yah - I don't know anything about V - but I'll figur ethat out and get this in there ☟︎
mod6: so eventually we could even have this with like V too right? or just let trinque's makefiles do the heavy lifting with V there i guess too.
BingoBoingo: guruvan: To sync past August you'll need the latest BDB patch
guruvan: I'll have some smaller gentoo based ones out ( ~100MB or so) this week
mod6: heeey this is really neat 'RUN echo "Building Daemon" \ ... && wget <URL_TO_FOUNDATION>/v0.5.3...tar.gz \ ...'
guruvan: https://github.com/mazaclub/docker-coin-daemons/tree/btc-therealbtc << source for the image
mod6: jurov: ya, saw that. the system is confused about which compiler to use i think.
jurov: x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-gcc: error: unrecognized command line option '-V' << this
mod6: i wanna send a bunch of more txs to the foundations addy and debug while im doing that.
guruvan: mod6: not sure what you're testing - I just put together a docker image with the v0.5.3 code on thebitcoin.foundation site
jurov: guruvan: pls post the configg.log as it says
guruvan: the configure there completely fails
mod6: the main issue is here, that i mainly just use this instance for build tests & full-sync tests. but the debugging i wanna do now, requires a fully syncd chain.
mod6: i think it's ok. i'll probably just shut down this instance, detach the volume, fire up my old deb instance and debug on that.
mod6: guruvan: yeah, i guess that buildroot must hvae used 4.8.4 to build the 4.9.x with musl that buildroot uses.
guruvan: oic - I didn't notice the musl libc - I've not built one of those yet - but - did you write a whole profile for it?
guruvan: is that gcc rebuilt with itself?
mod6: or.. related to that. i /know/ the compiler itself works, because i just recompiled bitcoind lastnight on here. but i dunno, seems like buildroot somehow hijacked the systems gcc and how is rendered defunct?
guruvan: oh - have you rebuilt everything with that?
mod6: guruvan: hey thanks, yeah i think after looking at the config.log output it's because of this:
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 18:20:12; mircea_popescu: http://www.secureworks.com/cyber-threat-intelligence/threats/bgp-hijacking-for-cryptocurrency-profit/ << somewhat old but i dun recall it being in the log.
guruvan: just happen to be building a buncha gentoo docker images today
guruvan: mod6: cannot run C compiled programs? sounds like maybe you've not got a correct toolchain? how're you building ?
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell jamieredman Perhaps before you try going beyond Faith you first try putting the rest of everything together. You do realized that at one point Hegelian societies dedicated to spreading socialism were quite trendy?
mod6: does anyone know how to fix this in gentoo? http://dpaste.com/0XVYZE6.txt ?
BingoBoingo: No wonder Ver's news site is going off they rails. They've got self declared Hegelians https://archive.is/70Zz9
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shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/9aUNNcz.png
mod6: checking whether the C compiler works... configure: error: in `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gdb-7.10.1/work/gdb-7.10.1': ☟︎
punkman: ben_vulpes: aaand that was actually indonesia, so i'm probably thinking about the wrong thing. << it was actually floods in Thailand.
mod6: to get the level of detail required for that, it'd probably need to be 50' high. all the better. :D ☟︎
mod6: ;;later tell pete_dushenski pretty neat ice scuptures. i'd like to see an ice sculpture of a guy with a sharpie in pooper. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: lol, ty thestringpuller for keeping Qntra moving on a weekend.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Desperate Ether Huffers Turn To Spam - http://qntra.net/2016/01/desperate-ether-huffers-turn-to-spam/
mod6: maybe this is the problem: * Last emerge --sync was 188d 1h 7m 43s ago.
ben_vulpes: (and ty, jurov)
mod6: >>> Failed to emerge sys-devel/gdb-7.7.1
mod6: ... bunch of can not find ur thing ...
mod6: in other news, this is annoying:
ben_vulpes: even if you don't move the coins around, would you show your charge and account for its not moving in donations?
ben_vulpes: i'd really rather the books show the expected expenses, jurov.
jurov: i'm not taking anything for last year, consider it as my tax payment
ben_vulpes: o tru
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> jurov did the foundation ever spend anything, i forget. <+ben_vulpes> foundation spend << not to date << technically we have made one expenditure, paying jurov his yearly fee.
mircea_popescu: be that as it may, i'm going to take the girls out to eat, and so we can continue later !
BingoBoingo: At least that's what the old timers say
mircea_popescu: course by now he's taken longer than conceivable for this purpose, but then again... his lyf.
mircea_popescu: anyway. my in-between-the-lines reading of the situation was that alf found, unexpectedly, that he had been doing dope for a long time, and while is working to get himself off the stuff, nevertheless due to the lenthy time spent on sudden solutions aren't practicable. so he's working on it.
jurov: and i'm no mircea_popescu to get execution on my projects for $0.1/hr :(
mircea_popescu: jurov to kick what project off ? the "looking for yet another job" project ?
ben_vulpes never understood the 'broomstick' line
jurov: to me it would make sense to pay full month or two to kick the project off
BingoBoingo: lol, wake me up when off the shelf solutions to replace the thermite role with FOOF emerge
ascii_shmoocon: lol thermite in 1u !
mircea_popescu: really this fiction of paying money rather than equity is nonsense of the first order.
assbot: Do you really want to be making this much money when you're 50? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QdQBAk )
mircea_popescu: http://yosefk.com/blog/do-you-really-want-to-be-making-this-much-money-when-youre-50.html << somewhat bizarre take on things. ☟︎
jurov: sigh, can't find the original offer, maybe it was not employment but i do remember offering fiat service to alf
mircea_popescu: i'd rather watch okcupid sluts camho. and no, i'm not watching that either.
ascii_shmoocon: I'm sitting next to the cam, lol
ascii_shmoocon: you can watch the stream
mircea_popescu: no thermite present ? ☟︎
ascii_shmoocon: no spot but here, watching a bloke give a talk on thermite, wearing a firesuit
ben_vulpes: but also the startup short requires tending to the egos of those being shorted.
mircea_popescu: anyway, alf's position is particularly unfortunate i guess, on one hand not one of "mps' 15k", on the other not one of the 15mn, is there no spot in the sun for an alf!
ben_vulpes: not his problem though
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes incidentally did that other guy work out, what's his name
ascii_shmoocon: and have no intention of trying
ben_vulpes: "web techmologies!"
mircea_popescu: o when was this ?
jurov: ascii_shmoocon i did offer you to become a contractor to my company, paid by $$$, you recoiled in horror
ascii_shmoocon: what I'm helpfully reminding folks of is that i am not an actual '15k' person like mp
jurov: *sigh* there it is.
mircea_popescu: then again you know, the forum exists for people to voice their voice.
BingoBoingo honestly would consider taking on extra projects if fig bags started appearing
ben_vulpes: this margin/time/spend way of looking at things is very illuminating
mircea_popescu: what "6 fig bag", what nonsense is this!
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon you gotta at some point stop acting and trying to think like a child.
ascii_shmoocon: but we're talking fantasy
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 20:56:29; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo except he doesn't seem to want them ; and besides, what confidence does a bum inspire to be a chief engineer ?