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mircea_popescu: "knowing how to" fill the fucking paperwork and ask for permission.
asciilifeform: gonna tell me that a sawmill is the same as knowing-how-to-remove-appendix ?
mircea_popescu: "is the choice between being a priss or getting laid, or is the choice between what ~kind~ of getting laid ? maybe i'm getting laid with jesus!"
mircea_popescu: or, perhaps more accurately, what feeds the swam in which you wallow.
asciilifeform: but is the choice between 'accumulate capital' and 'smoke dope' ? or is it about ~what kind~ of capital
mircea_popescu: the pretense to the contrary is what fucking created, and what fucking maintains, the miserable situation under which you belabour.
mircea_popescu: whether you personally will or will not be able to defend your capital has no bearing on whether you OUGHT to accumulate capital.
mircea_popescu: he is saying what orlov is saying, and what yarvin is saying, and what generally the castrated son of a stupid anglo whore is always fucking saying
asciilifeform: then i must be thick.
asciilifeform: he is saying, or so i read, 'if you are a typical small person you are defenseless and will be raped, so have a very small cunt with spikes'
mircea_popescu: he is saying that you OUGHT NOT own capital.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 18:20:12; mircea_popescu: http://www.secureworks.com/cyber-threat-intelligence/threats/bgp-hijacking-for-cryptocurrency-profit/ << somewhat old but i dun recall it being in the log.
asciilifeform: and to not be able to do a lick to stop it
raedah: asciilifeform, backpacking in US northwest forests is nice. refreshing, lots of streams for water, beautiful changing landscapes to show you different facets of what is possible.
asciilifeform: i fully expect to be robbed of everything
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 21:50:51; mod6: checking whether the C compiler works... configure: error: in `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gdb-7.10.1/work/gdb-7.10.1':
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373346 << if you have a box with gcc5, just format the hdd and start over, sanely ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so wait, i shouldn't fucking own things because "they canb bestolen" and instead be a good slave and own my two arms ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the part where he's saying exactly " The power is traded for the fetish of power. That's not capitalism, it is madness, and apparently Davos and Randi think women especially will heart it." except he sounds like he means it.
raedah: hello. here i am known as raedah. ive been a dev for joinmarket for the past few months. i like sexual relations with women, resisting invalid authority, educating ignorance, and being in nature.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 21:11:59; mircea_popescu: http://yosefk.com/blog/do-you-really-want-to-be-making-this-much-money-when-youre-50.html << somewhat bizarre take on things.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373287 << i'd quite enjoy learning what part of that piece mircea_popescu disagreed with ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Hence the irony
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: like any ~really good~ tech, it needs no kickstarter
BingoBoingo: Interesting. Would throw in for that kickstarter if scaled up to 3.5" drive
asciilifeform: and a novel crucible design for this purpose.
asciilifeform: but aside from this, it was ok, fella determined, through laborious trial & error, a recipe for a very reasonable ~thermate~ which cremated usb stick to ashes with 7g of powder.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 21:07:47; mircea_popescu: no thermite present ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373279 << incidentally THERE WAS NO THERMITE!!111 at the motherfucking talk. suit was 'symbolic!11'. i shit thee not. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: could we start with a "who are you" thing ?
raedah: met someone yesterday who's family migrated from the Montana mountains back in the day because the neighboring families had a habbit of solving disputes by killing eachothers children.
assbot: History of manufactured gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1SVqFdg )
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 00:14:21; pete_dushenski: jurov: nah, outside of the "civilised world", killing your enemies is pretty common.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373716 << actually, living in a perplexing (to non-orcs) symbiotic vendetta balance with enemies is the common thing. << no because jurov knows shit about the noncivilised world having taken wives out of their ranks and such. ☝︎
asciilifeform: (prolly will have to hit the library at some point...)
asciilifeform: i'd like to find out how they handled digging, rights-of-way, and whether they shared what today folks call 'last mile'
mircea_popescu: "Likewise, there were only two gasworks in London in 1814, and by 1822, there were seven and by 1829, there were 200 companies."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one for a year, then fifty ?
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:39:08; mircea_popescu: . now there's 200 masters, and 12 cable companies, and no fucking monopoly.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373771 << how many gas companies were there in 1820 london ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I don't have the patience for those savings
asciilifeform: if you have the patience.
asciilifeform: it has the holes.
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:35:25; BingoBoingo: Also the blue pogoplug is the worthless one for our cause, right?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373759 << aaaaactually you can solder the sata plug on ! ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Luke suggested it to the ClassicCoin forkers
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:20:08; mircea_popescu: actually i wouldn't go to war over keccak.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373746 << did anybody ever suggest keccak ?!!! did i sleep through this?! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 00:14:21; pete_dushenski: jurov: nah, outside of the "civilised world", killing your enemies is pretty common.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373716 << actually, living in a perplexing (to non-orcs) symbiotic vendetta balance with enemies is the common thing. ☝︎
asciilifeform: for all the good it does.
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:19:36; mircea_popescu: "@transcats Memory-hard PoW hasn't been invented yet, so we can't implement that.
asciilifeform: (caps the life of the machine at about 2y)
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:48:39; mircea_popescu: heck, even in 1950 stuff was a lot more reliable than the shit that passes today.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373792 << helped that plastic (esp. of the fine-detailed injection mold variety) was not yet a thing ☝︎
asciilifeform: (and the set before them)
asciilifeform: he drives. even to coffee across the street.
asciilifeform: incidentally, one interesting fact perhaps unknown outside of usaschwitz is that one assumption baked into these 'shoes' is that owner DOES NOT WALK
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was referencing that "i can throw them out for you" thing
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:48:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373655 << the thing here is that the age of unreliability is today, not 1700. as alf pointed out at some point - you couldn't sell ANY of your consumer junk you buy today to people living then. not your shitty shoes, not your shitty anything.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373790 << phun phakt: i bought a new (fiddybuck) pair of shoes a week before blasting off to conf3 in b-a. these shoes began to show visible 'asking for porridge' the week i came back. mostly in tatters now. ☝︎
asciilifeform: it blew my mind that 'civilized' usa does not
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:45:44; mircea_popescu: otherwise, doctor came to your fucking house. like they still did when i was a child, and ironicallyt - for the exact same reason.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373783 << aha, we had this in '80 su ☝︎
mircea_popescu: worked pretty much universally from the mid 1800s on
asciilifeform: ah now this i recall.
mircea_popescu: the way most of the early industry was rolled up, was that the "chosen" schelling point got tax breaks.
asciilifeform: tax was scarcely a thing at the time/place ?
mircea_popescu: oh. because taxes.
mircea_popescu: there's no reason they should have, statistically. that they did is a miracle.
asciilifeform: no, no, the cars
mircea_popescu: and the important part here is exactly that.
mircea_popescu: yes, actually, there were. you don't recall their names, but there were.
mircea_popescu: you missed the number 12. go re-read that dicussion.
asciilifeform: just because smbx was an american firm and thereby satanic ?
asciilifeform: how would it meaningfully differ from your 'computers for the 15k, mud for the 15m' scenario ?
mircea_popescu: that this particular brand of "just low profile enough" actually died for once is nothing short of miraculous.
mircea_popescu: mno. these are no sort of heroes.
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu thought ~i~ was the sinner in re: ^
assbot: 0 results for 'heroes hang while traitors triumph' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=heroes+hang+while+traitors+triumph
asciilifeform: !s heroes hang while traitors triumph
asciilifeform: (smbx boxen used fujitsu 'eagle' drive like every other mini of the period)
mircea_popescu: which is what makes them the absolute worst scum.
mircea_popescu: yes but all those idiots never stood a chance
asciilifeform: standardization of components at that time had touched only disks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you wanted to upgrade a pdp you had to buy from dec, etc
mircea_popescu: it's the very damnable part.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why you think this is an exculpatory bit.
asciilifeform: and modify that bit
asciilifeform: and came with the soft, the source, and with the important detail that you could point at ANYTHING running and get its source IN REAL TIME
mircea_popescu: and if i wanted to upgrade it i had to buy from them, right ?
asciilifeform: it was just a costly piece of industrial equipment, no trickery involved
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, for one thing, you could actually BUY the machine
asciilifeform: thing came with N cpu, X mb of ram, etc. and you would RENT them by the hour.
mircea_popescu: i fail to see how symbolics was any better.
asciilifeform: who did not sell (yes) their machines, but ~rented~ time on EACH CPU to the 'owner', along with the soft
asciilifeform: the true pioneers of 'apple store' model were... ibm
asciilifeform: go review the lit.
asciilifeform: nothing to do with any of it
mircea_popescu: and the appstore makes "engineering sense"