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lobbes: In other news, I'll be spending next week visiting old friends and family up north in Mass so I'll be less frequent in the forum (though reading logs). I'll make sure to take some pics to feed blog.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-18 15:37:49 mp_en_viaje: lobbes i'm thinking of cloning the pizarro shared for sitting down your thing on ; but comments welcome.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946439 << I see no issues with this as long as the bot will have permissions to write files to the 'mp-wp root directory'. I'm not very familiar with the old UY1 mp-wp setup and permissions setup so I couldn't say for sure (I used the rockchip for my bloggin' with piz)
mod6: Thanks for the update BingoBoingo. I'm a couple of days behind on logz here; I've been horribly ill for the last 3 days. I'll start catching up, bbl.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform mod6: Update. As of the most recent communication from the datacenter, it seems they want to be sued. You have this weekend to think this matter over. There is the chance they may be pushed into settling. Based on their response and the fact they pushed it through Maxi, I suspect they ended their week of sweating by deciding to bluff. First sit down with counsel scheduled for 8pm UTC Monday. Another sitdown may be
BingoBoingo: "mala fe" appears 34 times in the Codigo Civil. I yet to eat them all.
mp_en_viaje: so i guess you still have a little time.
BingoBoingo: I have not yet. This arrived minutes ago.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946571 - mainly because it was mp_en_viaje & you conversation; and you keep yourself quite private otherwise so I don't really know how much/where from you want any feedback.
trinque: I couldn't fucking believe this had to be explained, not just to her, but to everyone there
trinque: yeah, I've been reading along.
mp_en_viaje: i have been keeping a (quite public, at that) log of a wide reaching "where is it not raining" research project. expensive enough, too, i've been burning 4 figures/day, every day, since ~april. not that the point is how to make it cheapest or anything
trinque: yeah I get it
mp_en_viaje: and the lord answered "i don't know, my good man. for, you see... it is raining. SULPHURIC ACID."
mp_en_viaje: so you know, maybe you're the merchant who went to town to talk to the lord, to ask his question, "your grace, how the fuck do i keep my shop open when it's raining sulphuric acid"
mp_en_viaje: o yeah, remember ? i wasn't even counting the 100 or w/e topless girls.
mp_en_viaje: over the years i think i had at least 12 of these nibble and runoff idiots.
trinque: yeah, I was just thinking of that nazi girl's nice tits.
trinque: wouldn't be the first time I said fuck it, grabbed guitar and joint, and said "that's enough money for now, bbl"
trinque: yeah, isn't for lack, just ideas started flowing, and I've got an artist streak
mp_en_viaje: the reason i asked "why videogames" was because, oddly, that's the one field i feel like i've a good grip on/.
trinque: and I'm not the polymath nor the monk
trinque: I did not say everyone.
mp_en_viaje: and i do not say this idly ; i have made my own experiments as well as seen others', very EXPENSIVE, experiments in the same vein all over the world. people regularly sink billion+ in "tech incubator" producing nothing comparable.
mp_en_viaje: to be quite frank, i wish for my sins i could be persuaded by the gloom and doom, "everyone's here idiots, will never do or amount to anything" and so on. i truly do, because my life'd be a whole lot simpler. but... it's not there, here's a group of people which over years not decades got a LOT of shit together. as far as making quality products this hole's unparalleled.
trinque: it'll take some time for that to be worthwhile to ya, but I appreciate it.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, i wouldn't even mind smg publishing for you, in some sane arrangement.
mp_en_viaje: leaves two things to do, out of the three. high quality products, that we do quite well, i am well satisfied of this.
mp_en_viaje: i wouldn't do that for BingoBoingo either, arguably who needed it more and asked more pointedly.
mp_en_viaje: you're the lord, i've no doubt you're smart an' possessed, you come up with it! i'm more than willing to sound it for you, but what, i'm togive you detailed marchong orders ?
trinque: I've been cooking a few videogame ideas though
mp_en_viaje: how the fuck do i know!
trinque: I don't disagree on any of these points.
mp_en_viaje: an' i defy you to give me an example of any business decision, you or anyone ever made, which didn't root in honor.
trinque: sure, if money were root, I'd just get really good at sucking dick, but if honor were everything I'd not also eat.
mp_en_viaje: the "i'm not quite sunken low enough to eat here" coming before my leaving some shitty joint and the "i think nsa might finance a serious attempt" before, what, they're based on money ? not directly. the first node's honor.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno how up to date on subatomic physics you are ; but the problem is just as fundamental as the energy-density problem (for which the link to the great log discussion escapes me now) of car batteries : at 4000 units wide, the noise well exceeds the signal.
trinque: so if there's something that will get more people using the wallet, and thus make the wallet viable (i.e. I can pay someone to improve it, and do so without it being charity out of my own pocket), I will have to think of that thing.
trinque: I do not wish to be that.
trinque: but if others are going to keep bankrupting themselves for honor (or because they'd rather will the dicksucking rather than work like I'm certain mp did to have the money), we're just going to be boo-hooing that mp wont give us some of his coin.
mp_en_viaje: i would certainly not mind it being baked, and i dunno, i'd have thought the pizarro history shewed clear enough i also don't mind people doing things on their own at all. you can make it if you want, that's not an issue. but you won't be able to make it as things stand, not anymore than you'll make a useful electric car. a central needed thing's not there.
mp_en_viaje: well so what are you saying then, "i dun wanna be myself/my work associated with the rest of l1" ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 10:37:28 mp_en_viaje: it's llike watching silviu gherman pick up chicks. "hi i am from the dick people"
mp_en_viaje: the whole "i tell these fucks about my cock" became painfully evident reviewing the whole earlier nuttery.
trinque: nah, I think you are not at fault here
trinque: I even told alf I had the cash to do an experimental run of the RSA chip, and he ignored, because why have friends
mp_en_viaje: do you perceive the whole adventure is actually a grand scam, in the sense that what i claim is whatever, business republic bitcoin etc, but what i'm ~really~ looking for is people to prop up my ego somehow, like an elaborate social dance ? cuz i know full well success is impossible or something ?
trinque: the latter is all these fucks have been doing, "if I tell these UYians my cock is 7ft, they'll line up at feet just like mp's girls"
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, no, i know. and ima eg buy bimbo some instagram followers, cuz w/e, teenybopper interests, wants to instagram. and so on.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: you know, I paid maxim not-from-wallet for same reason...
trinque: thing is, I'll even build it for you, but I need to get this aired too.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, tbh, i started this discussion from the grass roots, "of my so many past txn, X% went through my friend trinque and Y% through rando retards ; why should Y >> X ?!?!?!"
trinque: and I'm fed just fine, but businesses also need fed.
diana_coman: trinque: are you saying that "I watched pizarro failing because they didn't bring people in the wot; so not worth dev the wallet because not enough people in wot" ?
trinque: I think it's hard to see the market, but in the last thread about the hardware RSA device it was clear I wasn't talking about market the same way as you, and that's where the clarity ended.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, tbh i don't get what you're saying.
trinque: I took a few passes at them to help with the business too, and this twat (yes you, alf) dares try to w/e, get me to take up the broken business or imitate it in same vein only after he's shat his pants.
trinque: what other payment throughput is there to make the thing revenue, and if not, I can't spend my time like that.
trinque: I've just watched these other guys shred their savings making a notbusiness and then apparently going to do the same thing in another spot, because the last one was cursed with the "locals are subhuman" or w/e, and having not to do with themselves
mp_en_viaje: in practical terms -- i can use deedbot just fine for in-l payments ; but it is currently not usable for out-of-l payments because of the delay. 99% of those payments are tiny, why leave it on the table.
asciilifeform: but i'ma leave off , it is difficult to produce solid figure w/out moar data, for above .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i took a naive stab at calculating the 'floor' for this locale. the util co charges presently 7.83 cents per kW/hr. the halftower is supplied with a 1.2kW baseline . 24*30*0.0783*1.2 ~= 70 $ of mains current ; warehouse sq. metrage goes for ~30 / m^2 here, this yields 100; and the remaining unaccounted for portion of price is then 295 , which presumably includes net pipe , upkeep of the grounds (maintenance, cooling, sla
asciilifeform: diana_coman: meanwhile, i've successfully decoded and unpacked your rk backup. it will go into brand-new rk today.
asciilifeform: 'coloco' co. made the (so far , i've nuffin to dispute it with) claim that it's a regional nexus w/ 4 separate fiber hoses in 4 compass directions to 4 peers, 2 power grids, etc.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: presently i suspect there is a glut of supply in this geography.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno that there's an objective floor on dc costs.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: meanwhile 5min ago i was informed that the leased ips (initially, 6) are prepared.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i will be speaking in person to proprietor to help fill in all of the constants for numerics ( in particular, the cost of additional amperage, when required ; and the stability of the (suspiciously low) price , in particular re desirability of locking it in through advanced payment . )
mp_en_viaje: for that matter, for all i know $1k worth of ecc now will be worth 50% more than that 1k worth of non-ecc in two years, whatever.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i also like the thermal margin offered by ecc. but the point is made.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i'm not hell bent on saving the % either ; just making the general point.
mp_en_viaje: running a business is all about doing math. "am i willin gto pay 1.5% more for a box to reduce losses by one in five million ?"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i only buy ecc, last thing i need in list of headaches is neutron . have enuff headaches. (ftr asciilifeform detects 2-3 ecc corrections each yr. per box.)
mp_en_viaje: i dunno if ecc is that important in context, but...
mp_en_viaje: cool. and i agree with him -- one thing you most want is ram
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, how about you offer l2s, new or otherwise, a year of free hosting ? i'ma throw in a free domain registration with it on my own account, and there you go, novice welcoming package.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll bake a blog post architecting what an ideal shared host machine involves based on the lessons of UY1 and anyserver.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, seems that we'll want a 'dulap-type' for this. i'ma 1st handle the outstanding reqs tho.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll work on a shared server how-to with hardware resources necessary. I can tell you now such a machine is going to want all the RAM it can get. On 'anyserver' MySQL's RAM consumption has been stable and depended so far on how many blogs it has been fed. Apache however benefits tremendously from spinning up new workers and there isn't another httpd worth messing with for the purpose.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946473 << this is good idea. i'ma obtain the necessary physical pieces for ~that~ after properly serviced existing queue ( diana_coman's demo rk ; correct and rational price summary )
asciilifeform: for today also, grr, are scheduled the physical maneuvers. but indeed i cant expect anyone to subscribe unless it is made known to what they're subscribing.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje, diana_coman : i'ma have to re-do the whole numeric orchestra, and write proper summary, w/ rationally-founded constants and at length. will need , potentially, entire day. ( still guarantee cost less than piz, however, for analogous machines. )
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I am all for hosting it with asciilifeform but tbh I would very much want him to publish an actual business plan on his blog.
mp_en_viaje: i suppose. i have so many of these by now tho...
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: that makes sense as a direct replication of previous setup; I don't really see anything wrong with it either; alternatively I suppose I can always set it up even on a vps with maxim or whatevers, it's literally "don't care where", all of it is public and fixed and should just be accessible for people to download stuff.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946447 << i honestly dunno wtf to do about that,
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i should prolly have that god damned youtube translated, it's just TOO fucking archetypical.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946300 - meanwhile after reading a translation of some chinese dude's similar attempts to "communicate", I start suspecting that everyone's chinese!! but after this experience, I'll add to #o curriculum documented interactions with unknown people to be done until result is judged acceptable.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 100 is a rounded-off output of complicated arithmetic similar to ^ including cost of cage, % of max amperage eaten by $box at peak load, cost of ip, amortization of iron. i'ma post for criticism after tea.
diana_coman: at which point I realise I miss eulora playing too.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'ma post the exact breakdown momentarily
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i propose price : equiv of 100 orc$ per mo per such leased machine, inclusive of full service . to be paid either monthly, quarterly, or yearly, as customer so wishes.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i think i'd rather lease, do you have a preference ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: let me go back through the whole log because honestly, I'm having a problem with asciilifeform's frenzy-spitting in the logs
mp_en_viaje: lobbes i'm thinking of cloning the pizarro shared for sitting down your thing on ; but comments welcome.
mp_en_viaje: i see. ok, so what'd the charge be for the building of two clones of the smg machines + 1 clone of the pizarro shared server and for a year's hosting ?
mp_en_viaje: i mean financed. eg when i logged into dns thing a few days back at BingoBoingo 's request discovered i have like 1k usd rotting in there. and that place takes bitcoin, too.
asciilifeform: 1 of asciilifeform's longer aims is to teach the proprietor to eat coin. but presently i'd like to eat some meself.
asciilifeform: presently i wish to 'buy' some coin personally however.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i determined that dc knows how to eat wires. when comes the time to expand the tower, will run BingoBoingo-style auction , to fill this.