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asciilifeform: trb has papercut on one arm, gangrene in the other.
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 02:06:34; trinque: was gagging on orphans, and now is processing blocks after retarting btcd
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1380586 << this is my fault and i am terribly sorry ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is not what you said, neither at the first juncture, nor at the 2nd juncture.
mircea_popescu: then i fail to understand what objection you have.
mircea_popescu: is the formatting as is idiocy or is it not idiocy.
asciilifeform: specifically that i saw leaving the formatting alone as a forced thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one day your "idiocy is contagious and fixing it a collosal waste of time and i've changed my mind and wah wah" thing'll land you in the soup.
mircea_popescu: barrier to coding should properly be "is willing to :retab back and forth forever because idiocy is contagious and we gotta argue all sides of any point".
asciilifeform: anyway, who wants to regenesis, go.
asciilifeform: i can only take off my hat...
asciilifeform: hey if the man wants to program in 'nano' who am i to say.
mircea_popescu: i dun have the energy to chase this. whatevs.
asciilifeform: hey the tabs thing only matters because mircea_popescu insists on programming in 'nano'
mircea_popescu: stop moving the fucking discussion omfg.
asciilifeform: and the ( foo )
asciilifeform: why not also get rid of the idiot { on own line thing then.
ben_vulpes: 'scouring of spaces' means the tab-replacement?
mircea_popescu: it's absolutely machine-verifiable, you also get some people's signatures, what's the problem.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 14:40:51; mircea_popescu: that once the current version being worked upon is released, we all do a whole-source scouring of spaces, and sign the independently generated results, which will be an immediate, other patch.
mircea_popescu: you don't have to read anything. apparently you don't even read the log lines!
asciilifeform: because it touches every line ?
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 00:51:59; asciilifeform: somebody here (ben_vulpes?) even learned cpp just for the occasion.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1380503 << aye, to the extent that i 'learned cpp', and to the extent that i can even be said to 'know' any other programming language. ☝︎
asciilifeform: by having 600KB of crud to read!
mircea_popescu: how would it do that ?
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 13:39:59; asciilifeform: i'd happily see the whole shebang reformatted, but this would destroy v-ability
mircea_popescu: 18<asciilifeform> but this is an astonishing waste of time imho << is it me or is this tack exactly opposite of what you were saying 6 hours ago ?!
assbot: An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (TRB) development, part ii. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1RXE2uA )
ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/21/an-historical-timeline-of-the-real-bitcoin-trb-development-part-ii/ << seconded for an in-depth discussion of the static build crapocalypse, and why we even bother with static builds anyways at the very least
mircea_popescu: mod6 2nd one is deliberately made to not have tabs so as not to offend alf's diff.
ben_vulpes: goals being low tco, ease of finding parts and cost of maintenance hours.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski also, considering a jeep cherokee or a toyota land cruiser of 2000 and 89 vintage for babywagon, any thoughts on either?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski aha, ty
mircea_popescu: how this shit usually works.
ben_vulpes: clever enough to get in trouble.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah, totally so very clever they'll spend thousands of dollars to dig themselves out of this pr hole and wonder why it dun work.
mircea_popescu: consequently, ikf anyone wants a payza account with 16 bux in it, it's crap@trilema.com, gangbangA1, and 12345678 "pin" w/e the shit that is.
mircea_popescu: fill a form. turns out they... STILL won't process the payment they advertised, unti... you upload "documents". and they'll send your bitcoin back, of course. ALSO after you upload "documents".
mircea_popescu: heh. so i try to use inept merchant. inept merchant doesn't take bitcoin, but takes a variety of bullshit "payment processors", one of which "payza". i go whatever, they pop up a 0.04blabla btc, which i pay. turns out THEY WON'T PROCESS the payment they advertised until you "verify", ie click on some link in email. so i do. turns out they still won't process the payment they advertised, untill you... fill a form. so i
mod6: yah, second one has no tabs at all.
mod6: lemme see on that one.
mod6: but I didn't apply that one, just the second.
mod6: i did a `wget http://dpaste.com/2CH23F5.txt -O mp.first.diff` and the tabs in the + side seem to be preserved.
ben_vulpes waves to yves
ben_vulpes: aha, ms. smith made the log finally!
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> or what, we discover dpaste auto-fucks-up the tabs anyway << im starting to wonder...
mod6: (13:43) <+mircea_popescu> mod6 http://dpaste.com/2CH23F5 << in the humble hope that it may serve. << first one
mircea_popescu: or what, we discover dpaste auto-fucks-up the tabs anyway
mircea_popescu: that's the 2nd one ?
mircea_popescu: <mod6> after i apply his patch, there are no tabs, only spaces. << i made a tab'd one, then asciilifeform wanted a different one so i made that too. which are you looking at ?
trinque: looks like that'll happen in about 40k blox
trinque: thestringpuller │ trinque: y u no use trb? << it's in the works.
jurov: if mod6 learns to set up his editor to emit consistent kind of whitespace, then today was not wasted
jurov: meh, i'm like... let them have their whitespace/style holy wars, they'll learn someday
asciilifeform: but this is an astonishing waste of time imho
asciilifeform: if somebody wants to mechanically retab the genesis and regen ALL OF THE VPATCHES - go ahead
mod6: <+mod6> huh, dunno, guess i could try that. << failed to patch
asciilifeform: ftr i think the whitespace thing is lunacy
jurov: and then :retab
jurov: s/ /\t/g replaces all occurences but best solution is to set vim (or any editor) to use only tabs
mod6: huh, dunno, guess i could try that.
jurov: why can't you replace with tabs *before* running diff?
jurov: yes this is the wrong approach, you ended up with +\t there
mod6: who knew that creating the patch would be harder than the code itself.
mod6: and when I replace :293,331 s/ /\t/ it basically ends up looking like this:
mod6: after i apply his patch, there are no tabs, only spaces.
mod6: basically, im trying to get my +/- to look like mr. p.'s. but i can't seem to achieve that.
mod6: no not straight to the diff.
jurov: if your're applying s/ /\t/ straight to the diff, that won't work, the format does require space after + or -
mod6: i gotta figure out how to get this patch exactly correct. can't seem to do it.
mod6: ah, now. im gonna leave the #__LINE__ #__FILE__ thing out.
jurov: mod6 ^ that was answer to my lxr q?
mod6: ima leave that out for now.
jurov: mod6 yes that should work
jurov: for me it was amusing to see the amount of bile spent on that
mod6: <+jurov> the example i gave is pretty much complete. and you ought to experiment with it << would this work? : printf("ERROR, ECDSA_sign failed at #__LINE__ in #__FILE__\n");
jurov: if you go ahead with tabs, do you want lxr to ignore whitespace changes in diffs?
mod6: maybe i need to go line by line and do it all by hand.
mod6: oh boy this is obnoxious.
mod6: hmm. same thing.
jurov: but __LINE__ should be used in any case, and # causes it to be treated as string
mircea_popescu: simply gets replaced wit hthe right numbers pre compile time
mircea_popescu: well, preprocessor technically.
jurov: maybe __FILE__ gives full path, i don't remember, then it's not very desirable
jurov: the example i gave is pretty much complete. and you ought to experiment with it
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 really you shouldn't do this manually, just s/ /\t/ << lemme try with this. thx.
mod6: <+jurov> mod6 and why not "failed at" #__LINE__ "in" #__FILE__ << sounds good to me, can you give me a full example so I don't screw this up, ive never used tat before.
mircea_popescu: mod6 really you shouldn't do this manually, just s/ /\t/
mod6: so then if I go line by line adding tabs instead of the spaces, i get a bit of a different vdiff output as such:
mod6: only problem here is, it adds in spaces instead of tabs
mod6: it pretty much applies the same, and if then I do a vdiff of a/bitcoin/src/key.h to b/bitcoin/src/key.h (where Mr. P.'s patch was applied in b/.../) then the diff looks the same.
asciilifeform: wasn't up to making a pqfp144 0.5mm pitch pad for it in the kitchen.
asciilifeform even bought first fpga as a schoolboy without understanding that it will have to be mounted somewhere. still have it.
mircea_popescu: i was listening to see what's that all about.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he's after the legendary 'dragonfly' fpga.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: there were at least four package variants.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: To be clear, the part # for this is: XC6216-2HQ240C?
mircea_popescu shudders at the simple count of how many return fail; there are that don't say anything else.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ya, not a bad thing at all. but yeah, maybe eventually we move to that once the source "cools down" so to speak.