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ascii_butugychag: how does that work ?
mircea_popescu: this isn't a castigation of them. but the system is a chute down not a chute up.
ascii_butugychag: ... isn't that sorta like 'toilet is a magnet for shit' ? yes, sometimes people plant flowers in one. but speaking as to its purpose.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the observation about 'camgurlz are a magnet for the attention of subhuman bois' seems unsurprising
mircea_popescu: then again, granted, most of those involved were pretty nuts.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone sane was seriously thinking the situation may survive. it was painfully obvious we're riding a self-limiting wave.
ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: this was re: the latest trilema article
ascii_butugychag: reading mircea_popescu's recollections of the '90s porn set feels a little like another one of my predilections, memoirs of su physics/math folk
ascii_butugychag: one does not need to be mircea_popescu to test this.
trinque: thestringpuller: yep, though not one I've passed any judgement on yet, other than "is elsewhere"
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: that article makes me think of (i entirely forget the source) - approximately - 'every man's life has a time when things were working correctly'
trinque: AWS being the host was certainly a problem.
trinque: well. I certainly didn't change the configuration to get that to connect.. merely the origin
mircea_popescu: seriously, 10 hours for 100gb ? what is this, maxtor days ?
mircea_popescu: so in that sense, my os copies files a lot faster than that.
thestringpuller: I might do another sync just to construct a graph.
thestringpuller: I want to see where the "churn" is in TRB.
thestringpuller: subtract the question mark at the end :(
thestringpuller: Can we get a graph like this: https://camo.githubusercontent.com/43c79ffbe5c5db49c01d5546ce1b57b2f1e83b21/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f6f62634c6a44442e706e67?
mircea_popescu: no, on trilema\
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the grep output ?
ascii_butugychag: but really in his harem scenario i'd imagine he would build something more like a horseshoe shape, so the users can face one another
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag incidentally, i suspect you'll find the latest quite very interesting, if you manage to wade through it all.
ascii_butugychag: it would probably look something like a nagant cylinder turned up
ascii_butugychag: have been thinking about it
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1380943 BB even shared toilet investment opportunity earlier ☝︎
punkman: terminal2: Now everyone has a toilet << not true, and good chance you'll make more money investing in toilets than ETH
trinque: ascii_butugychag: was there something else I was supposed to say aside from NICK to get going?
ascii_butugychag: i suppose the theory is that we are morons, and will conclude that 'trb is broken, can't sync' ?
ascii_butugychag: what, usg botnet only works on trilema ?
ascii_butugychag: why this wankery.
ascii_butugychag: here's a riddle. why no straight tcp ddos against any of'em ?
trinque: in related news, deedbot- will be back when I figure out why it can no longer connect to freenode, having only changed his external IP
trinque: I have seen ample evidence to suggest it in deedbot's logz
mircea_popescu: you're not the first to see such wonders.
mircea_popescu: trinque i suspect this is what drove alf's ideas of you know, deliberate sabotage against trb nodes.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> like it or not this is the level of scrutiny that patches have to face, even if it makes develoipment slow. << i very much agree with this methodology.
trinque: because his new trb node is at 152k
ascii_butugychag: 3) testing.
ascii_butugychag: there are exactly three mechanisms known for creating correctness:
thestringpuller: i don't know in practice how "unknown unknowns" affect the system.
thestringpuller: If you have expected behavior there should be a way to measure if that behavior changes due to something introduced into the system.
thestringpuller: so what? like bug that exists that needs to exist?
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 15:31:49; mircea_popescu: the problem with tests is that you can't test for something not happening.
assbot: 1 results for 'dijkstra testing' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dijkstra+testing
ascii_butugychag: !s dijkstra testing
mircea_popescu: and not catch all the bugs it doesn't catch.
mircea_popescu: it will catch all the bugs it catches
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: wouldn't unit testing coverage prevent some of this from becoming a problem?
thestringpuller: well openssl will eventually need to be excised as well, what to replace it with, I don't know.
mircea_popescu: like it or not this is the level of scrutiny that patches have to face, even if it makes develoipment slow.
mircea_popescu: mod6 the thing is, that 10`000 we took out - while very sensible to be out and belongs out - could very well had been covering up for say an openssl bug.
thestringpuller: and this is a decent PC.
thestringpuller: 100k blocks to go ~_~ eta like 1 more week
mod6: I think it's vital that we all gain a good grasp of what the intricacies are in this code - myself included.
mircea_popescu: mod6 kinda what my thinking is.
mod6: And 'you' in the sense of all of us. Not just Mr. P.
thestringpuller: terminal2: ASICMINER actually delivered on their IPO, their stock skyrocketed. However due to insane management that seems to be very common in the mining world, the company imploded.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> my one question, and not to mod6 in particular, is : can unsigned int nSize = ECDSA_size(pkey); be trusted to not fuck up the size ? << Just to touch back on this again - I'd like to see more of this. If you happen to be reading through the code, and there is a question, ask - let's discuss.
terminal2: Now everyone has a toilet
terminal2: Toilets would have been great to invest in before they were owned by everyone
mircea_popescu: think of all the growth the kids will create on top of their parent's food!
mircea_popescu: terminal2 by this reasoning you really should invest in toilets.
terminal2: Only takes a couple of breakout successes to make ETH take off I think
PeterL: all the "companies" will be amazing
terminal2: Migrating a DAO off of ethereum would not be an easy thing to do in most cases
terminal2: I've never had a GPG key before lol. I will make one tonight. On ETH: While I don't see a reason for established companies to re-use ethereum - I think you need to account for all the companies nerd kids will create ontop of it - which will grow
mircea_popescu: but if you';re sick of seeing it you should be able to config your client to ignore that line.
PeterL: oh, nevermind then
kakobrekla: noobs are often blind to pms
PeterL: proly want to limit the number of times assbot responds to stop spam vector?
PeterL: can we has !wot <nick> where the links get sent from assbot to <nick> instead of dumping in chan?
kakobrekla: help isnt adequate for joining wot really, this is better http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NpJ1vR )
mircea_popescu: terminal2 http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ and for that matteer
mircea_popescu: !up terminal2
mircea_popescu: different branches in the wot disputing which earlier node to be credited with x.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in the future there will be the principal cause of war :
mircea_popescu: seeing how the men in question were unfortunate to die befgore the bible.
ascii_butugychag: but i'm probably the last one alive who gives half a shit
ascii_butugychag: rather than vice-versa
ascii_butugychag: turns out that the '3' system was possibly saharov's idea
ascii_butugychag: i think i already mentioned them in the logz
mircea_popescu privately bets alfie will mention the three russian stooges thing.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i think everybody remembers the o-rings
trinque: ascii_butugychag: sounds like a centralized CVS/SVN repo where sigs "vote" for what constitutes the master branch
mircea_popescu: remember ? the o rings ?
ascii_butugychag: it is not enough, for a classic bureaucrat, to avoid accountability; he has to put in scar tissue that gives the appearance thereof
mircea_popescu: i still recall the feynman conundrum. to me it's the archetype for this.
jurov: dunno about funding, but it's nice example to avoiding accountability
mircea_popescu: lol, because mistakes, rather than people, are finite. gg.
mircea_popescu: didn't nasa get its funding cut for this ?
jurov: they do try at NASA, but they do it in meritocracy way
mircea_popescu: so what would the paper car look like ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag ever met a govt employee that welcomed accountability ?
ascii_butugychag: or does it even make sense to suppose that usg uses anything of the kind
mircea_popescu: more links in thar.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i've been wondering, what the nazi variant of 'v' might look like
assbot: The V Manual Genesis on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NgC7ZS )
punkman: PeterL: I guess you could rotate the log