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mircea_popescu: proving something like x^2 > 2x is not sufficient, we then have to go individually and show that 4^2 > 8, 5^2 > 10 etc etc
mircea_popescu: because for people that were too fucking lazy and high on their own farts to pay attention in school,
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the mistaken notion that while socialism (ie, the salvation of the members of the group through recourse to the group) doesn't work, subsets of this (such as, the salvation of women by recourse to the group) do somehow magically work.
mircea_popescu: hahaha
mircea_popescu: i've seen some pretty hot 50yos...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform beheaded may be going a little far, but la petite mort however...
mircea_popescu: im not the only one catching up on logs huh
mircea_popescu: not any more than google or facebook are incorporated in a proper sense, such as mpex is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but we were discussing homo americanus neh ?
mircea_popescu: it does not live in any country. it. is. a. bitcoin. business.
mircea_popescu: as a bitcoin business.
mircea_popescu: VanCleef mpex is a bitcoin business.
mircea_popescu: pretty much all depends on whether tomorrow is 1.x trillion or not.
mircea_popescu: somewhere in the middle. it's not what they make it out to be, but it is a blip
mircea_popescu: i gotta article i gotta write first
mircea_popescu: in a minute lol
mircea_popescu: you were ?
mircea_popescu: cheers all.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im wiped. we'll have to continue this tomorro
mircea_popescu: (i've not looked much into it at all)
mircea_popescu: o is it ?
mircea_popescu: "turn this wheel and an egg will fall out every revolution, then look if any eggs have feathers attached" is not okay
mircea_popescu: "turn this wheel and an egg will fall out every revolution and also a feather every ten revolutions" is okay, whereas
mircea_popescu: byt the idea here is that we promise some sort of result in the future.
mircea_popescu: you can in principle sift through the history and find convenient cases for any particular problem
mircea_popescu: and importantly, this is looking forward in time.
mircea_popescu: well wait, that's hiding the ε ?
mircea_popescu: cads something like that
mircea_popescu: ie, if you don't look it costs 1, if you look worth ε it costs 1+ε and fuck you.
mircea_popescu: i suppose actually my lemma may end up the equivalent of quantum indeterminacy, but for maths.
mircea_popescu: random is a scam.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i suppose it degenerates into some sort of banal equality otherwise
mircea_popescu: this is not unlike proving a given set of numbers is "random"
mircea_popescu: cads but would we be able to trust the results
mircea_popescu: to me it's quite straightforwardly obvious but im much too wasted to be able to show it.
mircea_popescu: ie, if on average your useless-pow block costs 1, the useful-pow will cost 1+ε, where ε >= the useful
mircea_popescu: should an algorithm exist to resolve the problem of ts on randomly distributed graphs, an application of that algorithm on a selected set of graphs with a useful application will cost more than the normal by an ammount at least equal to the cost of computing the useful application.
mircea_popescu: cads not at all. my lemma is more general, in your proposed terms it would be :
mircea_popescu: a bit ironic because the poor woman suffered plenty through being a woman. ended up teaching under hilbert's name because the sort of boneheads roaming about end of 19th century couldn't have a woman colleague
mircea_popescu: possibly the smartest woman that ever lived.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo emmy noether was a woman
mircea_popescu: cause really to work as advertised or is no good
mircea_popescu: cads no but the key is your "or". turn it to "and" and see.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: i imagine after enough btc blocks, we'll actually get shakespeare's merchant of venice in the hashes, so why not
mircea_popescu: cads but if it's purely coincidental then you don't have a pow that does protein folding, you just have a pow that occasionally folds a protein
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's clearly interesting. or as the romanian expression goes, "un prostovan arunca o piatra in apa si zece filosofi se chinuie s-o scoata"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no we want like emmy noether for this shit
mircea_popescu: something like the 2+2 = 4 2*2 = 4 sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: and actually this could probably be expanded into interesting results for ppl trying to understand various higher level maths. "define a comutative algebra in which a ring can exist for which any addition also calculates a multiplication and vice-versa"
mircea_popescu: im probably restating well known and anciently established mathematical fact, but here, mp's lemma : any computation of two results can be reduced to two computations of the respective results, and the sum of the energy consumed by the latter will be at most equal to the energy consumed by the former process.
mircea_popescu: now. does this mean your key will simply have to be twice as long for equal security ?
mircea_popescu: "you can make any sha key you want, as long as every other byte is FA"
mircea_popescu: ok, let me offer what i believe is a homomorphism
mircea_popescu: no but you're math-literate, how would this work ? you compute two things with the same stone ? what's the idea here ?
mircea_popescu: im not debating whether it's interesting, it's definitely interesting. i'm just saying it;'s stupid. stupid things are usually interesting, at least as amusements
mircea_popescu: this could be understood on a macro level as "if there are outside constraints on your pow process, you'll need that many more iterations"
mircea_popescu: one would seem to be thermodynamic, which is to say that the total utility of work available is limited, and if you do outside useful work you won't do the work you set out to do in the first place.
mircea_popescu: well, there are two major problems involved here.
mircea_popescu: the entire thing shows striking similarities to the peta-and-animal-saving debacle, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: nao what ? purely ideological construct, works just as well in any random direction.
mircea_popescu: it's malignant alright, it's pointless alright, with or without all the huffpo crap the world would be exactly in the same position.
mircea_popescu: sort-of what the socialists are doing in the us, or the communists did in the soviet union.
mircea_popescu: malignant pseudopolitics is this process which expands to occupy all fora available.
mircea_popescu: perhaps amusing an exercise would be restructuring the argument, except directed at them.
mircea_popescu: the gargle holds no futher merit past its function as a retard magnet.
mircea_popescu: now, that this is hogwashed into something pompous sounding like "malignant computing" is exactly typical of the mannerisms of the particular ideological group in question.
mircea_popescu: the idea is that bitcoin uses energy, and they don't like using energy. period.
mircea_popescu: that's besides the point. there's a certain troop of losers that have had a purely ideological problem with bitcoin mining since 2009
mircea_popescu: cads you realise that's a whole lot of ignorant nonsense do you ?
mircea_popescu: utah vampyre
mircea_popescu: http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/03/13/truck-driver-who-wore-vampire-fangs-accused-of-keeping-sex-slaves-in-semitrailer-for-months/
mircea_popescu: !b 8 ✂︎
mircea_popescu: hahaha
mircea_popescu: cads noobs gotta think they're smart, you know ?
mircea_popescu: "China's Li Keqiang warns investors to prepare for wave of bankruptcies"
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell dimsler whoa that was quick.
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Topeka_1869.jpg
mircea_popescu: in which you're not anymore, babydoll!
mircea_popescu: topeka, kansas.
mircea_popescu: the shame
mircea_popescu: so your gf is from topeka
mircea_popescu: oic
mircea_popescu: bejeez all these foreigner terrorists getting uppity...
mircea_popescu: benkay you're not living in the US ?!
mircea_popescu: Dimsler very long
mircea_popescu: here's a nice outfit to celebrate.
mircea_popescu: http://24.media.tumblr.com/5e3a7342a73f477fbc5952bf184ea4ab/tumblr_mu3o7p4YE01s8tt3vo1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: wow all caught up with log. iiincredible.
mircea_popescu: but you know, when in 500ad the sarmatians started pushing west, you knew something was scaring them at the other end.
mircea_popescu: and so we literally don't know wtf their jets actually are.
mircea_popescu: no chinese gouzenko's let alone wikileaks
mircea_popescu: joecool maybe. the thing with them is that they're really good at keeping secrets.
mircea_popescu: tho if we're to apply the old yurpean wisdom, considering how fucking scared the russians must be to spend so much on their sus... the chinese must be pretty bad.
mircea_popescu: and to top it all off, we don't even know what the chinese are flying.
mircea_popescu: (they did have the jewish elecwarfare upgrades tho, which apparently are damned good)
mircea_popescu: and these are people who can barely afford the fuel to fly the damned rust buckets.
mircea_popescu: lesson learned ? zero.
mircea_popescu: it was a carnage.