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ben_vulpes: and as specifically regards polarbeard, i am happy
to review patches
ben_vulpes: and given
that
the character's lost or whatevered
those keys, i don't see any reason for a)
that
to change or b) influence how
the wot regards polarbeard
ben_vulpes: so i've only negrated
this punindented identity
jurov: merely
tasking
them
to understand existing code is sufficient. "and no, you're not allowed
to redo it nor pull libraries"
mircea_popescu: sorta like crossword puzzles, same
thing. a sort of cleverness.
mircea_popescu: the sad
truth is
that
this is a very specific sort of ideal.
mircea_popescu: more generally,
there's no algebra with a 1 but not a 0 in
this sense afaik.
mircea_popescu: no but
this is important.
the measure is not 0-> but (undefined) ->
mircea_popescu: hey -
this actuyally works. fundamentally, we're destructuralists.
mircea_popescu: not only "there's nothing common about common sense" - but
there's a very good reason for
this. common sense is decentralized system poison.
mircea_popescu: it is
the direct equivalent of entropy-diddling for keysystems.
mircea_popescu: the ONLY viable attack against
the wot is getting people
to act in systematic manners.
mircea_popescu: and
to bring back
that very obscure
thing on
trilema about sybils etc :
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 21:01:21; ascii_field: would let you wander off
to wherever spies go when a war is over. You know why?' he said. 'No,' I said. 'Because you could never have served
the enemy as well as you served us,' he said. 'I realized
that almost all
the ideas
that I hold now,
that make me unashamed of anything I may have felt or done as a Nazi, came not from Hitler, not from Goebbels, not from Himmler — but from you.' He
took my hand.
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 21:01:21; ascii_field: BingoBoingo: 'I didn't know
that,' I said. 'No one knows everything,' he said. 'Did you know,' he said, 'that until almost
this very moment nothing would have delighted me more
than
to prove
that you were a spy,
to see you shot?' 'No,' I said. 'And do you know why I don't care now if you were a spy or not?' he said. 'You could
tell me now
that you were a spy, and we would go on
talking calmly, just as w
mircea_popescu: keep
things so it's never worth doing
that, you don't care if it's hitler's own id.
mircea_popescu: new identity has
to put in effort
to establish
trust. if it wants
to abuse it later... it does have
to burn it.
mircea_popescu: moreover,
the corruptive influence of bitcoin over enemies works in gpg and v space
too.
mircea_popescu: whether you like
the idea or not - jack shit you can do aobut it.
mircea_popescu: moreover, gpg is specificalloy intended
to work as a PSEUDONYMOUS system. much like bitcoin addresses are.
mircea_popescu: well
thatg's what i said. how do you know "x is y". you basicaLLY don't.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu>
this is loathsome. <<
This
polarbeard: I don't know how
to resolve
the fact
that he doesn't like people build stuff for nodejs
BingoBoingo: polarbeard:
The solution is not simply new name. It is building a history and working
towards
the comprehensive exam.
mod6: ah,
thats right. forgot you blew away your keys. but still, i gvae you ample
time
to resolve
this with ben.
polarbeard: mod6: I created a new ident because I nuked my keys, but I understand your position, you could have
told me I'm not welcomed as well, instead of
talking
to me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and
then
the differences evaluated and it's just not fucking worth it.
mod6: i asked him
to resolve
this, but
this has gone
too far now.
polarbeard: that's okay, I won't submit anything if you don't want / have
the
time
to read
mircea_popescu points out
that all
this private
talk just makeswork down
the line.
mod6: mircea_popescu: he was
talking
to me in pm when he decided not
to reconcile with ben and created a new ident. i can't sign stuff from a guy who i know
that my co-chair has neg-rated.
mircea_popescu: mod6
there's
two (very general) problems here. one is
that well, identification's always iffy. how do you go "x=y" when it comes
to ids ?
the other is
that well, with or without wot
trust,
the guy can still write patches etc. not like anyone can prevent it. not
to say
that it shouldn't be resolved by any means.
BingoBoingo: trinque: He filpped ben_vulpes paranoia breaker it would
take some
time for it
to reset.
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: no, but it makes
the blog part work more smoothly given how github leiks da censorship
trinque: polarbeard: just go
talk
to ben_vulpes and work out whatever happened
there.
polarbeard: do I need a domain name
to contribute code?
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: is
the categories page you used built into
the
theme or did
that have
to be created?
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: But you don't own
that url in even
the pretend sense of having a domain name
BingoBoingo: Shows your growth over
time or lack
thereof
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: Your best bet is likely starting a blog and putting
things you might eventually submit
there
polarbeard: ok, I'll earn
that with
time, I won't submit until I have positive rating
mod6: so lets get
this resolved and perhaps we can move forward.
thestringpuller: this wouldn't change on same machine no? (like pulling blockchain off one drive
then putting on another drive, but inside same machine)
mod6: polarbeard: perhaps not. but wot & signing patches is based on
trust. you must have a positive rating from members for patches
to be accepted.
thestringpuller: or is it like
the fdisk
thing where you should --verify-all on restart even if blockchain is downloaded?
thestringpuller: is it safe
to
transplant
the blockchain between hard drives once it's completed?
mod6: polarbeard is punindented, i very much appreciate his offer of help
to work on
the R.I. but
this is a non-starter until ben and polarbeard/punindented reconcile
their differences.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> polarbeard: I apprecate your offer
to work on
the Reference Implementation, but before you get
too far along you need
to reconcile
that -1 from ben. <<
the what now ?!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> i was even under
the impression
that
the eulora build process was microshit-free << how are you going
to make a windows binary "microshit-free" ?
mod6: I
think you need
to ack your previous identity and make ammends.
Thats
the first step.
polarbeard: mod6: no problem, I'm open
to suggestions
diana_coman: jurov> nice, can someone compile crystalspace/eulora with mingw? <- I
tried
that in some days of madness; it didn't end well
mod6: polarbeard: I apprecate your offer
to work on
the Reference Implementation, but before you get
too far along you need
to reconcile
that -1 from ben.
jurov: i know about cygwin, but never
tried
to apply