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dub: augmentign
a small city with extra 10G capacity,
a couple of routers and switches
Diablo-D3: I can get
a 1000 foot spool of cat6a and not spend that much money
dub: that doesnt include optics, jsut DC power, fiber and
a little cat5
mircea_popescu: they won't likely be able to resist stiffing you, seeing how you're
a new face on
a bugdet.
Diablo-D3: even if
a subcontractor fucks up, it limits the scope of the damage
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: this is why
a small one is being done first
mircea_popescu:
a lawyer practicing corporate may cost you 10k just to hear your case.
Diablo-D3: then I get
a crash course in suing.
Diablo-D3: but its not representative of the problem at that small of
a size
Diablo-D3: I was just going to do just
a dozen racks
Diablo-D3: its not like Im going out there with
a trow and some bricks
mircea_popescu: you know everything needed for building
a dc backwards and forwards ?
Diablo-D3: I know everything needed backwards and forwards, but I dont have
a userfriendly interface
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I'd be what pg calls
a technical founder
mircea_popescu: i am an asshole. there's
a difference between asshole and that.
Diablo-D3: and the reason I didnt have
a website first is because thats not how things have been done in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: but your company has
a site now. news can be published, people can ask you questions.
mircea_popescu: it stands to reason you should make
a website before registering the security, actually. why not ?
a blog is five minutes' work.
Diablo-D3: I think what I should do is just bust out
a web 2.0'ey kind of website for DMC
mircea_popescu: well, brokering is hard work and requires
a large set of rare skills.
Diablo-D3: I dont go to NYSE's website to trade stocks, I go through
a broker, and most brokers barely list any info about companies
Diablo-D3: seriously, glbse has room for
a contract, but not anything else
mircea_popescu: the most expensive part of
a project run by someone with great ambition and no experience is always the management.
Diablo-D3: if I had
a million dollars in the bank
mircea_popescu: i tell you, it's bizzare to want to bootstrap
a taxicab company when you never ran
a cab.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: no, but I know
a surprisingly large number of people who do
dub:
a better question would be, has Diablo-D3 EVER worked
mircea_popescu: and obviously
a wind turbine powered datacenter would be something very comical.
Diablo-D3: I mean fuck, look at
a 1mw wind turbine
mircea_popescu: i'm just pointing out that pricing may be
a little more difficult than it seems.
Diablo-D3: got
a url for the one you were thinking of?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: which is why Im asking for
a million, not
a billion.
mircea_popescu: on
a total budget of 100k
a prototype could cost at most 2-3k
mircea_popescu: if all you have is 100k and you spend 100k, you did not buy
a prototype.
mircea_popescu: to wit, that thing which people with
a lot of money do.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: it is for
a prototype.
mircea_popescu: there's
a very good reason why there's no dcs made out for 50 racks Diablo-D3
dub: you are talking to
a shut-in, who lives in
a fantasy world of drawn japanese people and cronic masturabation
mircea_popescu:
a mid size up to par with current specs dc costs about 1bn atm.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu:
a full sized facility is
a thousand or ten thousand racks
mircea_popescu: the generators for
a decent facility run in the millions.
mircea_popescu: you can't build
a detached family house for 150k in maine.
mircea_popescu:
A dedicated facility will be purchased or built on un-/under-developed land located in Maine due to our cold 6 months out of the year environment and lack of natural disasters. $150k will be set aside for this purpose as
a soft estimate.
mircea_popescu: as such, the benefits of making
a large company out of many fpgas are neglectable
mircea_popescu: fact of the matter is all this is pretty banal.
a currency exists.
dub: you can't seriously think you can have
a serious conversation about DMC
Diablo-D3:
a lot of things have already gotten better because of DMC
Diablo-D3: the market doesnt communicate well, so its not
a one sided problem
mircea_popescu: cause i think this "being in
a bad spot for being first" is mostly self-pity. in fact, it's in
a bad spot by poor communication with market.
mircea_popescu: i think you'd have been
a lot happier if that contract was better written tbh.
Diablo-D3: DMC is in
a bad spot by being the first. We can't just leave the money sit
Diablo-D3: I'm ipo'ing as
a company that does many things
Diablo-D3: Tesla didnt have
a car factory when they built their company
mircea_popescu: if you ipo as
a shoe factory you can't take the money and buy shoe factory shares in other factories
Diablo-D3: DMC's first one will be
a few dozen
Diablo-D3: when google or amazon build
a data center, its thousands of racks
Diablo-D3: yes, but for what the plan covers... that IS
a small scale.
mircea_popescu: yes but there's
a reason, see ? tghe reason is that it's much cheaper to test things out on
a small scale.
Diablo-D3: theres no one else whos doing real world things at this large of
a scale in the bitcoin world
mircea_popescu: commodification is
a natural process, you can'd "do" it any more than you can rain.
mircea_popescu: well i'll tell you this, unlike most everyone i don't think you're necessarily foolish. maybe
a little haughty. the thing is, it's not enough for something to be hard to make it worth doing.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FZB.
A] 100 @ 0.034 = 3.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so basically you envisage
a very capital intensive investment
mircea_popescu: so we'll have to leave your opinions on valuations aside for
a moment.
DeaDTerra: With little to no communication and
a sea of lies and cover ups
DeaDTerra: What I do agree on is that this whole thing has been run in
a incorrect manner and with little respect to the investors money.
kakobreklaa: also i got
a word from
a source who have worked with zipconf
DeaDTerra: I was feed
a lot of bullshit, I was fooled and not told the whole truth.
Chaaaang-Noi: also deadt no offince but i think you were feed
a bunch of BS.