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thestringpuller: "Gavin: ...
that's another form of centralization
that I find much more worrying
than network security. If
the only entities participating are only high-net worth people,
then
those are pretty easy
to get at and control."
thestringpuller: Has Gavin really been
turned into kid who eats glue in class? Cause he really seems
that way when he says stuff like:
ben_vulpes: i am unconvinced
that
the six months have been paid, or
that if
they have any impression has been made.
ben_vulpes: first: node.js. second: "naw, vpatches are for faggots".
third: 2.5kloc patch degendering reference implementation log statements.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:31:10; ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it bothered me
that polarbeard apparently does not yet fully grasp
that every line he writes is a unit of ~work~ for other people
to do.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:58:55; ascii_butugychag:
the overall idea i am
trying
to
teach is
that anybody changing a line of
trb ought
to be mindful of
the work
this creates for others
ben_vulpes: but black is
the only acceptable dry-erase color.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:11:50; mod6: it doesn't scale obviously for everyone
to have
these issues. for my own sanity, we need
to make it so
that a guy just basically does one
thing and
then it builds.
ben_vulpes: saying "no"
to a hundred
thousand dollars from Conde Nast is worth approximately 5x
the bezzlebuxx in question.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 23:10:49; mircea_popescu: ie, infantile delusions of sovereignity
through "privacy".
this doesn't work. sovereignity behaves publicly and with impunity.
that is
the fucking point.
ben_vulpes: ;;later
tell pete_dushenski 'hysterical raisins'!
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 02:44:42; mircea_popescu: for
the other
thing, no. it promotes
this anti-computing, anti-intellectual, outright evil view of software being something
that is given
the user, like an item, rather
than
the correct view of software being a command given
to
the computer.
TomServo: Still have
the original build dir if
that is any help.
TomServo: Sorry, I had
to step away. I've rebuilt w/ v99996k and am seeing
the correct max_locks.
mod6: ok, let's pick it back up in
the morning. night!
mod6: If not,
tomorrow is fine
too. Just want
to ensure
that we
take a look at what might be going on
there.
mod6: if you're around
tonight, i'd like
to walk
through some steps.
mod6: Well, you may have not have `mucked' anything up. Perhaps we can walk
through
this a bit.
punkman: "If you've never peddled
the flesh of subhuman garbage creatures
to human garbage, you've never lived, and living is a nightmare. Eat arbys"
TomServo: mod6: Please assume I've mucked something up before all else. Let me know what I can provide
that can be of help.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:42:16; punkman: does
the
trb server have room for a buildatron
that eats patches and craps out bitcoind's?
phf: it gets
the job done :]
punkman: I don't
think "guy
that doesn't know much" doing "curl deedbot.com/build.sh | sh" is great either
shinohai: But it's what
the user expects!
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:42:16; punkman: does
the
trb server have room for a buildatron
that eats patches and craps out bitcoind's?
mircea_popescu: for
the other
thing, no. it promotes
this anti-computing, anti-intellectual, outright evil view of software being something
that is given
the user, like an item, rather
than
the correct view of software being a command given
to
the computer.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: for one
thing,
the VERY CONCEPT of signed binary no longer exists.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:34:33; punkman: mod6: my goal is
that someone who doesn't really know much << wouldn't
this guy be better off downloading a signed binary?
mircea_popescu: "blocks" : 88213, man
that first coupla years go fast...
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:20:35; mod6:
the entire build process is incredibly complex and we need
to desperately reduce
that compelxity as much as we can.
mod6: "sound money is better
than anything you've got"
mod6: lol, ive actually worked at a lot of places. it's
totally different. people go
there
to get paid so
they can continue buying shit
they don't need and eating food
that isn't food.
shinohai: What good is being part of a Republic, if you do not contribute for
the good of said Republic?
PeterL: maybe you just need
to find better workplaces?
mod6: seeing us pull
together and get problems solved, warms my heart.
mod6: in
typical US work environment, its mainly a lot of "oh,
that's not my problem...
talk
to so and so..."
mod6: people in here ~care~ about problems.
they wanna pitch in and help and make
things better.
mod6: you know something
that is a lot different participating in
TMSR as opposed
to any other place i've worked at?
mod6: yah, shinohai
that's be super helpful.
mircea_popescu: certainly gets it one step further
to
the "one command and it runs" ideal
mod6: hey hey,
there you go bud.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, just
throwing it out
there, for ppl
to weigh in
mod6: sure.
that makes some sense. if it reduces confusion, i
think its positive.
mircea_popescu: defaults are defaults, people are free
to change
them. but it's nice
to have when out of
the box like
this
mod6: hmm. i'd feel like
that maybe
that's a bit sticky incase IPs change or what not -- maybe an addition
to
the wiki would be a better place
to start
there?
mircea_popescu: #
to make
this node public, make sure port 8333 is open, comment out
the line above and uncomment
the line below
mircea_popescu: and also, could we bundle a pre-created .conf file with
the release ? something
to include say all
the public
trb nodes as -connects and stuff, with a comment
to explain
to people how
to
turn it into a public node ?
mod6: shinohai: you use
the conf file quite a bit right? does it seem
to work "as expected" ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: I believe
they should.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:15:55; mod6: if you have .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf --
then you shouldn't need
to use
the flag: -conf
mod6: shinohai: wow. perhaps, it's not a horrible idea
to look at a hosted solution instead of saturating your home conn.
shinohai: mod6 Atlanta is one of
the cities
they decide
to start enforcing data caps on. :/
mircea_popescu: i haven't
the slightest curiosity
to find what rando i couldn't
tell from adam
thinks
the blocks look like.
mircea_popescu: PeterL probably. moreover, it allows
the
trb network
to be built in depth. what
the fuck do we even have
the fronteer nodes for if not
to protect us
PeterL: does it sync faster in -connect rather
than -addnode?
shinohai: I'll open mine
to public when I finish my battle with Comcast.
mircea_popescu: currently kinda useless
to advertise nodes
that run in -connect
mod6: Thanks for doing so!
That's awesome.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im only going
to announce
the new nodes once
they're synced and i open
them
to public i figure.
mod6: mircea_popescu:
that's great! very nice progress indeed.
mod6: ok, on
that note
then; we've got myself, shinohai, bitcoin_pete, hanbot, Mr. P. and who am i forgetting
that have built v99996 build script -- i'd say let's put it in deed bot and update
the wiki.
mircea_popescu: anyway mod6
this is a milestone for
teh foundation, got
three instances spun up on
the same fucking day of
the release.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:10:38; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 : i ended up with
two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor
the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need
to just execute
the build script -- if you have
to execute either of
the rotor.sh scripts,
then something went wrong.
mod6: Thanks for
the feedback. :]
trinque: also, deedbox will be down shortly for SSD installation, whenever
the DC pulls it
trinque: shinohai: I'd
type env in a
terminal of yours, see what your system is setting
mod6: then make a backup (for
those who haven't)
mod6: ya, i agree with
that when sync'ing up. get a verified chain from a
trusted node.
mod6: hmm. perhaps he has something environmental going on. be interesting
to get
to
the bottom of
that mystery.
mod6: yah, looks good
to me. very good.
mod6: oops, copied
too much
there.
mircea_popescu: mod6 565faf3ef371f5e2178ae30c45b08b93415eeb92263486e68f2ac2e8f4c7900056e628804bf5c0707a90be946e0aeaebfcd0a391aab40de2e5d56e6bcbdccb1e db.cpp
that help ?
mod6: TomServo's issues have me a bit curious
there.