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jurov: i have added short info
to
that page
mod6: i guess i could do
the deedbot part, not sure how
to work it
th
mod6: danielpbarron: do you wanna update
the wiki as soon as
there is a get-able deedbot entry for
this?
mod6: trinque can you pu'
http://dpaste.com/2VBF9V2.txt' in
there (maybe run a dos2unix on it first) with a
title like
the other one ala 'build-bitcoind-V99996K.sh' or whatever?
mod6: but it really does need
to be updated for v99996
today.
mod6: so in reality, no you don't need V or anything. i
think if you just follow dpb's wiki steps it's all good.
mod6: <+jurov> even v.pl, for
that matter... :) <<
this is available in
the ML & on
the foundation homepage.
kakobrekla: and once mailing list is
thousands of pages, still
the way
to go?
jurov: okay, adding
that
to wiki
ben_vulpes: "read everything on
the mailing list and call me in
the morning"
jurov: i do have it, just
trying on another computer, and said
to myself - let's
try
this from perspective of newcomer
jurov: even v.pl, for
that matter... :)
jurov: Where is v.py available
to download?
mod6: we need
to get
that script into deedbot so we can update
the wiki
mod6: ah ok. just
to see if you hit
that same PERL_MM_OPT
thing? or just on another OS?
mod6: asciilifeform will have
to confirm/deny
that i used
the correct patches.
phf: so its encouraging
that at least some files match
phf: i pressed it programmatically, without "patch" utility, before leaving home, so didnt have
time
to
test it
phf: mod6:
thanks! well more common
then different
mod6: yeah, we got a bunch of files
that differ. but i might have built something
that you haven't.
mod6: awe crap, sorry my manifest file is in
the list.
mod6: if
this works, i'll do a clean and
then grab
the file hashes.
mod6: for
the sake of
this
test, i'll just rename
these in my .seals dir as
they should be.
mod6: ok do i understand
this right? (i haven't done
this since before
the re-bake of
tinyscheme)
mod6: i can
take a look, give me a few.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i gotta go
to
town. we can continue
this when i'm back, but less symbolistic fetishism, more alphabetic monotheism plox.
mircea_popescu: it's more or less a 1966 argument
that "it is not possible
to alter a vinyl disc once printed because hurr durr
the plastic will melt"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can we agree at least on
the concept
that
the notation you'll use consists of making different sized holes for 0s and 1s ?
mircea_popescu: so
to summarize : a)
they're less resilient
than you imagine
them
to be ; b)
they're more rewritable
than you imagine
them
to be ; c) keepi9ng
them around requires keeping a whole pile of kludge
that never worked right (cd drivers etc).
danielpbarron: get nubbins` or someone
to make some nice artwork on it and i'll buy
☟︎ mircea_popescu: they are rewritable
to some degree whether you wantthem
to be or not.
mircea_popescu: and also it's
trivial
to rewrite a cd. most of
them are rewritable realy.
mircea_popescu: so paper is in
this sense
the same as --clearsign. a cd is not
that, not even remotely.
danielpbarron: the point of openbsd cd is
to compare against downloaded version, no?
mircea_popescu: according
to proponents. it's similar
to
the value of vinyl, in reality.
mircea_popescu: i don't even see
the value of maintaining
the cd as a
thing in
the world. it can go
the way of
the celuloid film afaic.
mircea_popescu: i much prefer building on
the dest box whenever feasible.
mircea_popescu: so
then you internet a signed binary over rather
than a v
tree. meh.
mircea_popescu: understand
that introducing
the ability
to read cds is an unneeded kludge.
mircea_popescu: but don't expect me
to go
to paris every
time i'm about
to fit
tits for corsets.
mircea_popescu: now, mind, i don't
think it's wrong
to have a cast cd of
the
thing, just like i don't
think it's wrong
to have an iridium idol of
the "meter" somewhere in france
mircea_popescu: all convenience is sinful by
this measure.
there's nothing wrong with a little sin.
mircea_popescu: which is how i discovered yest
that for instance we have an undocumented "bc" dependency in
the build
tree
mircea_popescu: but
the convenience here is exactly
that i just compile on
the run boxes.
mircea_popescu: if
the machine will connect ot
the internet anyway, what
the fuck do you imagine "airgapping" it does ?
mircea_popescu: if
the machine is never going
to connect
to
the internet, building on it airgapped is sane.
mircea_popescu: looky : your design whereby a better water piping system consists of introducing a one foot gap somewhere so people can be employed
to run
the water across in buckets isn't as brilliant as it seems.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 18:13:03; asciilifeform: how would you feel about a
table saw
that walks around looking for what
to saw ?