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phf: i have
that patched gpgme version
though, can always punt into
the ugly land. i'm going
to
tackle diff first
though, seems like a significant hole in my algo knowledge
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Yeah, lots of interesting oddities came out
to end
the month.
phf: i'm curious if
there's enough machinery in ironclad
to give me support
to do a pgp verify rewrite
phf: asciilifeform: you know just
the right kind of questions
to ask :)
mod6: need
to read more first heheh.
mod6: phf: ahh, very cool
though. as im sitting here reading sicp im
thinking
that maybe how i can learn scheme is by writing V in it -- at some point.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: saw
that nyooz elsewhere yesterday, also found it odd
to classify 'firewall' as 'weapon' but hey, not like words mean
things in usistan
phf: mod6: sorry,
this is entirely a non issue, i'm debugging a pure lisp presser, i.e. parsing vpatch files and
then doing in memory press. everything presses, but
that one file has an extra newline
mod6: or even give a source file name,
then output all
the vpatches
that
touch it &
their before & after hashes, or something.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it's sorta incredible
that
the fiatists who need infinite growth all want
to cut
their own
throats with reduced consumption while
tmsr~, who doesn't want anything
to do with infinite growth, is buying and consuming like it's going out of style
mod6: i should look into
this
mod6: so if ascii's V 'origin' command would
take a hash as a parameter
then show you
the vpatch where it was
touched,
that would be helpful.
phf: i somehow have an extra newline
there :o
mod6: i
think
that is correct
mod6: oooh. hmm. maybe im looking at
this wrong.
mod6: it's not just headers.h,
theres a number of others.
mod6: in other news, i can't seem
to get -setvernum
to work either? or how can I
tell
that it worked?
mod6: gas here $1.55
today
mircea_popescu: you get about 1
to 5% less mileage per barrel in
the 2nd approach, as should be obvious. you neverthelss get 5x
the "jobs" and 20
to 50x
the imaginary industrial assets.
mircea_popescu: anyway. in no sense is ethanol LESS fuel intensive
than gasoline.
the alternatives are oil->refinery->gasoline for gasoline, or oil->refinery->chem feed->chem plant->fertilizer->farm->corn->ethanol plant->ethanol.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski> so unless bitbet is now drafting and seeding
their own proposals... <<
this isn't even new.
pete_dushenski: "The
three vehicles averaged 1.5% lower mileage with E10, 2.2% lower mileage with E20, 5.1% lower mileage with E30" << from some study by
the american coalition for ethanol.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Note
the categories it was filed under
mircea_popescu: "The DC neglected
to
turn
the
thing back on after SSD installation" <<< o.O
mircea_popescu: assbot> California Environmentalists Fight
To Save Endangered Nuclear Plant <<< had
to dbl
take.
then lulz floweth
pete_dushenski: why
teddy can't just frame his position as "e30 is even LESS efficient which is good for both corn and oil producers" is anyone's guess.
trump owns honesty, apparently.
pete_dushenski: do corn producers what
to put
their products everywhere and anywhere, from building materials
to groceries ? ofc. but
that has nothing
to do with consumers.
pete_dushenski: how and by what fluke of fisics cruz
thinks
that eXX burns ~more~ efficiently
than 100% gas is anyone's guess
pete_dushenski: ^from
teddy cruz, who just lost alf's vote by
the looks of it
pete_dushenski: "Because of
this EPA wall,
the market is currently dominated by low-level ethanol blends, such as “E10” (10 percent ethanol and 90 percent gasoline).
That has prevented mid-level ethanol fuels, such as E25 or E30, from widely reaching American consumers. If allowed full market access, mid-level ethanol products like E25 or E30 could prove quite popular with American consumers, who are increasingly concerned
pete_dushenski: so if 0.01 - 0.04 btc house bet wins, it goes
to proposer ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: It's not new. It's something
that has always been brough up as part of BitBet's marketing for people
to submit interesting proposals
pete_dushenski: in computing
terms, ^ would be like putting 256gb ecc ram, 16-core amd fx and gaming vid card in an ipad.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Smaller house bet has alway gone
to
the person proposing
the bet on BitBet
pete_dushenski: so unless bitbet is now drafting and seeding
their own proposals...
trinque-out: deedbot will be back later
this evening.
The DC neglected
to
turn
the
thing back on after SSD installation and I had
to depart
the keyboard. Meanwhile just send me anything
that needs
to go
through and it'll happen
tonight.
BingoBoingo: Or maybe
tyvek would be a better candidate
BingoBoingo: ascii_rear: I'm
thinking more
the sheets used for
the grilltops at McDonalds.
ascii_rear: the
thing stretches and warps when you so much as fart on it.
ascii_rear: if BingoBoingo is
thinking of
the
teflon
tape used in plumbing, i can hardly imagine a worse punched ribbon
BingoBoingo: With other
tape yes, but
the kind of jam
that would deform
teflon?
BingoBoingo: hole punched
teflon
ticker
tape is probably actual gold standard, but...
ascii_rear: ONE cd would handily hold
the source
to every public software package worth
taking
to mars with you.
ascii_rear: mask rom is prolly a close second, but it is vulnerable
to electrostatic
ascii_rear: buildroot is one of
those
things
that suck donkey corpse ballz but
there is NO alternative
to.
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:25:55; mircea_popescu: ideally, you go read
the whole fucking
thing, rebase and sign as your own.
mod6: we need
to focus on
the makefiles &
the release. meanwhile im sure
theres a zillion other
things.
ascii_rear: realize
that i have a vast collection of crud
mod6: yeah, you've got some
time yet before we can really dig into
that in earnest anyway.
mircea_popescu: i know it's exciting and all. but, pace in all
things.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller aha.
this was discussed
time and again in
the very logs.
ascii_rear: next
thing i will do, supposing
that nobody else
takes it up, is
to make
the mempool shiva-walkable
thestringpuller: at height=322956 core 2 duo
takes about 45 seconds
to 1 minute per block verification...
BingoBoingo: ascii_rear: I see nothing
that preculdes guerilla cd operation from being done in reasonably clean warehouse for 1 or 2 new chevy suburbans worth of captial outlay.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> so in
this sense mod6 it has my imprimatur
that bothering
to grok it isn't a waste of your finite
time. << yeah, agreed, Sir.
ascii_rear: keying crud manually into
the repl shell suxxx
mircea_popescu: ascii_rear> can we at least have
the option of loading from local dir instead of www ? <<< now
that is a very good idea.
ascii_rear: it will rock especially hard when i get
the emacsatron in (see slime
thread)
ascii_rear: mircea_popescu: aha,
that was why i did it originally
mircea_popescu: so in
this sense mod6 it has my imprimatur
that bothering
to grok it isn't a waste of your finite
time.
ascii_rear: BingoBoingo: watch
the film at least until where
the sintering machine appears
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ascii_rear> but eventually we ought
to be able
to do spiffy
things like writing my memory usage grapher ~entirely in shiva~, etc << quite. once
this is fully functional debugging in
trb can not be matched, period. by anyone, anywhere, doing anything.
mod6: <+shinohai> ok mod6
test completed, did not have
to set set
the perl option before building << ok good deal, i assume
that
the PERL_MM_OPT
thing is an evironment deal.
ascii_rear: trick is
that
they gotta be pressed aluminum
ascii_rear: i have 25 y.o. cds
that read without any problems
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:05:43; BingoBoingo: Has anyone yet
tried making an alibaba shopping list for necessary equipment
to start a cd replication line?
shinohai: ok mod6
test completed, did not have
to set set
the perl option before building
mod6: i went down
this road probably like in december or november or something. just was its own ball of wax.
mod6: but anyway, if we wanna stuff all of
that stuff into shit as well,
then we need
to hack on buildroot
to not rsync it -- now we've forked our own.
mod6: but
then it pulls all kinds of stuff.
mod6: oh for like
the makefiles and stuff? i
think we were just gonna put
the stuff in
the shit dir iirc.
ascii_rear: what would be handy is if
the
thing could spit out a manifest of all
the crap it expects
to find
mod6: just create a 'patches' and '.seals' dir in
the same dir as v.pl and you're golden
mod6: you don't ~need~
to run
the init command at all
mod6: you can do
that just fine.
ascii_rear: aha, as i said, it is
the smallest known
ascii_rear: (there are hard
tests for compliance, can run
these)
ascii_rear: so potentially we can write our own, eventually,
to replace
tiny.