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mircea_popescu: i dun see the problem with it, seems a legitimate controversy.
mircea_popescu: Neil hence my "derivative bets ftw"
mircea_popescu: hmm jurov you getting pms ?
mircea_popescu: and whoever else wants to
mircea_popescu: i suggest you make a bitbet, as you describe it, and ima bet a little myself.
mircea_popescu: Neil so make a bet.
mircea_popescu: VanCleef i dun see why it'd be useful.
mircea_popescu: aha. perrrfect reference then
mircea_popescu: why so serious, soviet ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall a us that'd have just laughed.
mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/88592d7877ee342801c347b98a0d2038/tumblr_mm1dl2X38s1s0ryyvo1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, here's a girly with snow on her tits
mircea_popescu: well ok, this'll have to wait then.
mircea_popescu: rather than simply discard it.
mircea_popescu: well try to understand it.
mircea_popescu: (not that i mind, i guess, more btc for me)
mircea_popescu: and an example which people still have difficulty following
mircea_popescu: an example which is put there deliberately, by design, by me,
mircea_popescu: obviously if bitbet house simply kept both addreses it'd actually be ahead by now. which makes it a fine example of how you can make money betting both sides early.
mircea_popescu: a) bitbet house bets both sides on all bets, always ; b) in spite of giving away one of the addresses, bitbet house still actually makes bank some months, and overall is just about even ; c) ergo, double betting can be productive.
mircea_popescu: Neil why, yes, i can. here :
mircea_popescu: can't say as a ido
mircea_popescu: and what's good for people who really believe "make mone yat home by cashing these checks" and "inhearitence!!!" is also good for... "investors"
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 Neil not that there's anything wrong with intuition, it's how great things start. it still has to be actually checked with data.
mircea_popescu: VanCleef jus' grep the log, it's there
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that hypothesis was only seriously considered by the baesian cultists.
mircea_popescu: VanCleef you know we lolled at that shit like five times already, getting stale.
mircea_popescu: well no problem, but what you're saying doesn't actually make sense.
mircea_popescu: i think you'll have to re-read this later because i can't produce examples if you randomly reject examples.
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 spam is not misspelled because the spammers can't hire editors. spam is misspelled because that selects for idiots, and they are looking for idiots (false positives are very expensive for them)
mircea_popescu: duh?
mircea_popescu: it would win EVEN MORE if it kept both sides.
mircea_popescu: this hardly weakens my point...
mircea_popescu: this is a larger dataset than one example.
mircea_popescu: during some months it comes AHEAD, which means the dual-betting system actually works.
mircea_popescu: the house bets BOTH SIDES on ALL BETS
mircea_popescu: nono you don't take my meaning
mircea_popescu: Neil are you aware that the house wins on some bets ?
mircea_popescu: seems logically the other way around
mircea_popescu: but this aside : why would you figure my stake would *prevent* me from agreeing with the facts ?
mircea_popescu: and it'd seem they're not really that factual.
mircea_popescu: the trouble is that i'm not disagreeing with you, i'm discussing those facts.
mircea_popescu: for all you know, this is actually true.
mircea_popescu: you can select any arbitrary pair of yes/no bets and pretend they're made by the same person
mircea_popescu: but this is neither here nor there, much like the green shirt in bank thing
mircea_popescu: suppose there's a 500 btc bet on yes
mircea_popescu: this seems reasonably ok. and if more people gang on yes, his 291 diminishes but his insurance increases
mircea_popescu: so he's bet 99 btc, is insured for 11 btc (currently) and stands to gain 291 currently.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 99886*42.00000000/28156083 * 74.78
mircea_popescu: which... i have no idea what that's supposed to prove ?
mircea_popescu: but it reduces to his either winning or losing the bet
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: unless i'm doing this badly, should the bet come out as yes he's making ~300 btc
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 99886*57.00000000/7186081 * 367.70
mircea_popescu: nono, you can make a derivative bet.
mircea_popescu: derivative bets. ftw.
mircea_popescu: so... bet it ?
mircea_popescu: and so we're doing research rather than derpage.
mircea_popescu: it helps even more if you publish your method along the dataset, then op can apply it to other sets see if behaviour converges
mircea_popescu: that works.
mircea_popescu: "on this set of 100 consecutive bets, the results for X behaviour are .1 and for Y behaviour are .04"
mircea_popescu: ok but it helps if you bolster that authority claim with actual data
mircea_popescu: "footwear should be made to support taller women because you should see this swede i'm dating"
mircea_popescu: no lol. i'm claiming that on the basis of picking some outliers you can't make general statements.
mircea_popescu: just as long as you don't wait more than 4 days
mircea_popescu: obviously in a case where a 3 month bet was resolved in 4 days waiting pays o.O
mircea_popescu: Neil that's an outlier.
mircea_popescu: but i'm just saying, "same address" is an irrelevant selection here.
mircea_popescu: evidence to the contrary of an unsupported thesis is not necessary.
mircea_popescu: much akin to saying "i've never seen anyone in a green tshirt depositing more money in the bank than they were taking out"
mircea_popescu: this seems completely irrelevant to the discussion
mircea_popescu: o.o
mircea_popescu: poor advice/waiting pays/harsher than linear. pick one.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as we're asking the same thing lol, youcan do both at a time
mircea_popescu: Neil seriously ? got any data to support this ?
mircea_popescu: “Assuming that insight will work with people who are unmotivated to change is a colossal misunderstanding."
mircea_popescu: month's volume is 1.7btc tho. someone could easily manipulate it
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.mg
mircea_popescu: seems so.
mircea_popescu: one small akismet and that's it
mircea_popescu: poor guy
mircea_popescu: a haha
mircea_popescu: davout hm ?
mircea_popescu: not bad
mircea_popescu: hi
mircea_popescu: lnostdal http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ seems to still work
mircea_popescu: ya kakobrekla one nao needs pw for http://bitcoin-assets.com/ ?
mircea_popescu: .d
mircea_popescu: i think a bunch of different ones
mircea_popescu: ;;prevdiffchange
mircea_popescu: and have at it.
mircea_popescu: they should prolly make a russian and us eve team
mircea_popescu: and i very much doubt romania cxan be bothered ot invade either moldova or cernauti
mircea_popescu: and the russians probably don't want to get aywya
mircea_popescu: there's a us base in constanta, which i guess the us will have to defend
mircea_popescu: nah
mircea_popescu: romania doesn't give a shit, as a general policy
mircea_popescu: probably nothing
mircea_popescu: roughly the equivalent of mpoe-pr going tyre kicking around berkshire with stuff like "o this is a good investment you bigmouth ?!?! what sort of odds do you give bitcoi nbeats you ? 100:1 ? "
mircea_popescu: o yeah, and he wanted odds.