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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform:
this is for a motherfucking crystalspace project
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 15:24:32; asciilifeform: y suffered from delusions of physics - he was 'raised for physics' by his father, but didn't make
the cut, and never lived it down
phf: asciilifeform: original conception requires "sufficiently smart patch"
then, unless i'm missing something
ben_vulpes: if you have information
to
the contrary...
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mircea_popescu: it's
this sort of "doesn't repeat but rhymes" beauty
that makes me
thing we're really singing spheres music here.
mircea_popescu: anyway, notice
the fractal beauty of
the world : list 1 is really "the wot" ; list 2 is necessarily
the lordship list. and by its very nature ... you can or can not chose various different lordships depending on what it is you're
trying
to do.
ben_vulpes: because i want
to press "shiva" into a
tree
that doesn't have, say, malleus_mikehearnificarum
mircea_popescu: and even without
the economic consideration, from a purely intellectual perspective. what is
this inhuman, anti-intellectual "the bitcoin developers" bs ? we're not living in
the village of pythagora over here, and we don't expect "anonymity"
to stand in for sovereignity like five years old. gimme
the motherfucking list.
mircea_popescu: and if we fix
the other end, we actually fix
this problem.
mircea_popescu: but
the problem per se wasn't
the end he approached, but
the other end.
ben_vulpes: has
the unexpected advantage of making alf barf
ben_vulpes: it nominally offers a lot over standard cl cffi, but i have not verified
that myself.
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 11:10:04; jurov:
that aside,
there are completely different set of requirements, like, easy debugging. if lisp,
then rather something with slime and good library bundled.
mircea_popescu: must know who
to
thank and who
to hunt down.
that's what management is.
phf: ah
that gives you ability
to press purely from wot knowledge, without reading
the patch
mircea_popescu: (this approach probably makes
the ancient "group is
the enemy of intelligent life" / "only
threat
to wot model is agreement" etc painfully obvious - if a, c and d are a compact i'll just note
them epsilon and pretend it's one
thing)
mircea_popescu: whereas by building D i am in
the situation where i know it's enough for d
to lie.
mircea_popescu: so by building B in
the example i am in
the situation where i know a and c and d must ALL lie.
mircea_popescu: question 2 is : who are all
the people on whose word i am implicitly depending by building
this ?
mircea_popescu: question 1 is : who are all
the people who contributed
to
this ?
mircea_popescu: basically i seek
to answer
two questions, from a management point of view.
phf: mircea_popescu: is
that a list of names
that correspond
to .wot? i.e. each patch has (asciilifeform, mod6, etc.) and
then
there's a set of all wots for current press?
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 18:34:13; mod6: and next
time, let's do
this sort of
testing before i ship
mircea_popescu: sure, people may maintain sparkly-clean
trees for whatever reason anyway. but in general as
to
the "main"
tree, best avoid both horns of
the dilemma and
tryt and sit in
the middle.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd say it's a degree question. if a hole found close
to
the surface, supuration is advised. if not, let blood carry
the germs out. just like
the body
treats infection.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile
the first list for B is a b c d whereas
the 2nd list for B is (a) ; (c) ; (d) ie 3 lists.
mircea_popescu: the first list for C is a b c d whereas
the 2nd list for C is D.
mod6: i'll fix all of
this stuff.
mircea_popescu: phf actually asciilifeform has a point :
two signature lists are needed. complete and dependent. C = all signatures seen on any of
the packages pressed ; D =
the set of all signatures on which
the current press depends - ie, without
them you can't reach
that leaf.
mod6: i wanted a whole replacement for asciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch, not just
the fix.
mod6: should I do mine first?
then you can make your changes.
mod6: just imagine
that
they don't exist, now we need
to reimplement
those changes.
mod6: then recode all
this stuff.
mod6: start without
this patch : asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatchasciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch, or
th mod6_der_high_low_s.vpatch
punkman: mircea_popescu: phf yes,
the list of all signatures seen
to reach
that leaf. <<
that would just return "asciilifeform" :P
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mod6: so what i want
to do
mod6: ok, anyway.. lemme
take a look at
this.
mircea_popescu: phf yes,
the list of all signatures seen
to reach
that leaf.
phf: mircea_popescu:
touched signatures?
mod6: ignore
those last
two,
this from serialize.h
mod6: this patch just comes after
the original
mircea_popescu: every
time it runs into something it doesn't know what
to say about
mircea_popescu: trinque and ftr
that error message should be "fuck you alf" by default.
mod6: ok unpacked ur
tarball. verified
the sigs.
mircea_popescu: well as
the great robbie williams one said, "at least now we know"
mircea_popescu: phf can you also add
the
text on a futher link ? [code] ?
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be best
to
test before documenting a feature ? :D
mircea_popescu: truth is defended in
this order by a) structure and b)
text&context.
mircea_popescu: i had
the silent intuition
that
there'd be a second gate in between
the code and
the "war of comments" outer gate discussed in
thr logs last week.
there is!
this!