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Diablo-D3: the last console I owned was a saturn

Diablo-D3: "so, hows hl3 coming?" "fuck the NDA, gaben WILL EAT ME, I AM NOT A DONUT"

smickles: nefario: how come there isn't a market maker rebate?

Diablo-D3: he said "man, if I made a game like this, valve would sue me"

Diablo-D3: one guy Ive played co-op with on portal 2 is a game dev

copumpkin: is where you first do a market sell order for all you're worth, then with the proceeds from that, do a market buy order for all you have

OneMiner: I played a bit. I'm stuck on some platforming.... :/

copumpkin: I'm a master

Diablo-D3: copumpkin: but glbse does not have a sign outside syaing dead nigger storage

copumpkin: we can call Chaang-Noi The Specialist, if he wants a fancier-sounding title

OneMiner: The main problem is that the entire bitcoin economy isn't worth more than 120 million. Illiquidity is a natural consequence as far as I can tell (not far).

Diablo-D3: allow a maximum of x bids, and x bids per asset

Diablo-D3: thats going to be a pita.

nefario: It's a stupidly low bid placed in the hope of catching a mistake someone might have made inputting an order

Obsi: setting up a new disk... speakth thou favorite fs type

Diablo-D3: a lot of assets are already AT zero

copumpkin: nefario: how do you define a spam bid?

nefario: it's got a real cost

copumpkin: what makes a bid a spam bid?

nefario: I had this system open on GLBSE for a while when I tried to move over to the new backend

Diablo-D3: I would be happy to put all of DMC's spare cash towards every asset I want to provide a floor

[\\\]: Smoovious, it worked for gox for over a year

nefario: we get a shit load of spammy orders

smickles: copumpkin: imagine a margin call based on the current order book bids

nefario: margin, lending assets, etc. opens up a whole sleuth of areas that are difficult to deal with from a regulation POV

copumpkin: if I lend someone money/assets to trade on glbse, I can get screwed a lot harder than if you lend the same stuff to them

copumpkin: so price should not be a consideration to people

copumpkin: I can sell 100 btc of even some of the most liquid stocks on glbse, and the price will crash by a major percentage

copumpkin: considering that an exchange thrives on liquidity, it's in nefario's interest (and ours, as a market) to make sure that as many people as possible want to do that

copumpkin: OneMiner: it's a legitimate one, but there need to be sufficient incentives to make me want to do that

OneMiner: Going for a smoke. Don't talk about anythin interesting.

nefario: this used to be a problem in GLBSE 1.0

OneMiner: I think coins should be tied up in an order. Otherwise, what good is that order? Fake orders via shell accounts (correct term?) would be a huge problem.

nefario: there is a lot I'm not able to talk about now

nefario: it's a big issue

nefario: of course if there is a lack of liquidity it's a problem

copumpkin: nefario: do you consider the lack of liquidity to be a problem for glbse?

OneMiner: I know a person who donates to CERN. I approve of this.

Diablo-D3: well, calling it a religion isnt wrong

OneMiner: That's science. It's a theory and it's unconfirmed. Calling it a religion is an affront to all who work on expanding all we know.

Diablo-D3: Smoovious: we know what a black hole is

__Atlas__: led up" in the extra dimensions on a subatomic scale, possibly at the quark/string level of scale or below."

__Atlas__: " Superstring theory, M-theory and Bosonic string theory respectively posit that physical space has 10, 11 and 24 dimensions. These extra dimensions are said to be spatial. However, we perceive only three spatial dimensions and, to date, no experimental or observational evidence is available to confirm the existence of these extra dimensions. A possible explanation that has been suggested is that space acts as if it were "cur

Diablo-D3: we know less than a fraction of a percent of whats required to answer any worthwhile questions

Diablo-D3: it could be a curved spacetime field

Diablo-D3: due to the speed of light being the closest thing we have to a police box.

Diablo-D3: you fired a flashlight from the rear of the ship

Diablo-D3: jcpham: no, the entire output of the sun could probably power a warp drive for a short period

jcpham: we're talking more energy than say a sun, right

Diablo-D3: photons do not have "a speed"

Diablo-D3: yeah, it probably can be done, but it takes a fucking shitload of energy

jcpham: it's a source of energy we can barely imagine

Diablo-D3: local space is inside of a hyperspace bubble

Diablo-D3: well, thats what a star trek warp drive is

OneMiner: I was totally serious BTW. Star Treak could be real. If you think not, it's a failure of the imagination. We stand on the edge of so many things.

Diablo-D3: takes 14 minutes to get a signal from mars most of the time

Diablo-D3: you'd basically need a whole new chain for mars

jcpham: How would DMC mine bitcoins from a starship

Diablo-D3: look at what a few solar manufacturing plants did.... their biggest drain on resources is electricity

Diablo-D3: the thing is, energy production is a run away process

__Atlas__: It's only a matter of time.

[\\\]: jcpham: I'm gonna poke you in the eye with a magnet

Diablo-D3: a matter/anti-matter reactor

Diablo-D3: but they're sitting on a reactor that produces more energy than the modern day earth produces yearly.

__Atlas__: \\\: I wish we could have a discussion. I'm interest in your disagreement.

Diablo-D3: replicators use a LOT of energy to run

Diablo-D3: a third world war that wiped out 2/3rds of the world population

OneMiner: Go ahead and make fun but I think Star Treak pained an achievalbe future. Beyond money and beyond position to a degree. It's within our powers to have world peace and whatever else we want. Not in our lifetimes but not so much longer than that ether.

Diablo-D3: the federal government is not a nameless faceless organization

Diablo-D3: its a right given to us by whatever creator you believe in.

Diablo-D3: Smoovious: everyone has a right to live an honest life.

[\\\]: the initial statement isn't a suggestion

[\\\]: there is a difference

Diablo-D3: he has a point though

__Atlas__: OneMiner: It takes a lot for many state that. I admire you.

OneMiner: It is in my interest to not have starving people outside my door. It's in my interest to protect the weak. It's in my interest to compromise on my beliefs and values to a degree.

__Atlas__: The Articles of Confederation were a beautiful thing. The British Empire hated it.

Diablo-D3: __Atlas__: in a way, but we almost had that

__Atlas__: I think people would end up agreeing if we had a better vocabulary.

Diablo-D3: Smoovious: am I a communist just because I once gave a starving person food? no, it means Im a human being.

Diablo-D3: Smoovious: you may think that Im wrong here, but Im not. people have a right to live a normal average life, if nothing else.

Diablo-D3: and I think we do, indeed, have a problem

OneMiner: If it is a socitety then that does imply an obligation, in no uncertain terms.

Diablo-D3: when they believe that they are anything more than that, then we have a problem

OneMiner: How do you describe what you live in? What is it that lets us live in such comfort other than a society?

Diablo-D3: if the majority of people have chosen to work and are unable to get a job, why doesnt the government just step out of the way and let the system work

Diablo-D3: most people in the US are employed by a small business

__Atlas__: OneMiner: Call me a psycho. I am no slave.

Diablo-D3: millions of people have CHOSEN that, yet the government continues to destroy any chance they have at a job

OneMiner: There's an obligation to your fellow man. It takes a psycho to say otherwise absolutely.

Diablo-D3: if someone wants to get up at 6 a clock in the morning and work 8-10 hours a day, yes, they HAVE that right

OneMiner: It's up to us to rise above our genetic programing and work as a group. This is unlikely.

Diablo-D3: everyone deserves an education, a job, food on the table, a roof over their head

Diablo-D3: we have a diverse population in every meaning of the word, yet we all deserve the same basic freedoms

smickles: Diablo-D3> there IS no party. < like a west coast party?

Diablo-D3: Smoovious: yes, but thats just a small part of the bigger picture

__Atlas__: I like to see the art of war as a market of asks and bids.

Diablo-D3: not when it comes to a full blown civil war

Diablo-D3: why do you think the US is such a pile of shit? both sides are fighting each other instead of just letting it happen

Diablo-D3: anytime enough people fight being governed, the whole system grinds to a halt