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mircea_popescu: cause i think this "being in a bad spot for being first" is mostly self-pity. in fact, it's in a bad spot by poor communication with market.
mircea_popescu: i think you'd have been a lot happier if that contract was better written tbh.
Diablo-D3: I'm ipo'ing as a company that does many things
Diablo-D3: [04:53:49] <Diablo-D3> I cant have the hardware here at my house
Diablo-D3: I actually wanted to invest in someone else being the first... but there wasnt one
mircea_popescu: well i'll tell you this, unlike most everyone i don't think you're necessarily foolish. maybe a little haughty. the thing is, it's not enough for something to be hard to make it worth doing.
Diablo-D3: I cant have the hardware here at my house
mircea_popescu: even in that paradigm, i don't understand why you'd be holding other people's paper.
mircea_popescu: o i recall reading that and pointing out that you're too late for the 1mn bitcoin start-up.
mircea_popescu: i still don't comprehend your structure.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: but the next size target for DMC is 15 mhash, so I'm trading accordingly
Chaaaang-Noi: i bet people are lined up for that.
Diablo-D3: I'm paying 2 DMC for 1 ASICMINER, and 9 DMC for 1 BTC-MINING
mircea_popescu: what i want to know is
DeaDTerra: Though I think JRO is planning to do whats right and repay the investor.
DeaDTerra: What I do agree on is that this whole thing has been run in a incorrect manner and with little respect to the investors money.
DeaDTerra: I wouldn't say they are criminal, they are innocent until the opposite is true.
kakobreklaa: also i got a word from a source who have worked with zipconf
DeaDTerra: I am just saying what I am told, of course I don't know if ZipConf actually work.
kakobreklaa: so i call it bs
DeaDTerra: I was feed a lot of bullshit, I was fooled and not told the whole truth.
Chaaaang-Noi: also deadt no offince but i think you were feed a bunch of BS.
Chaaaang-Noi: i think he hacked himself and he and mathew kept the investment money and ran
mircea_popescu: dude. i have not had a hack in a year.
mircea_popescu: bust markets and ask yourself "If I was an investor, would I put any faith or money into Bitcoin businesses?"
mircea_popescu: The realization that I had gotten in to bed with a criminally minded guy, leaves me to only blame myself. Nothing changes the fact that I am ultimately responsible to the people who have been in my support. What's worse is that *very few* real world investors want to touch anything Bitcoin related with a ten foot pool. If you have to ask yourself why, take a look at the current price. Look at the ponzis (Pirate), look at the most ro
Chaaaang-Noi: i made a thead so people could respond
Diablo-D3: man I wish obsi.1mhs dividend day was coming soon
mircea_popescu: i imagined you took assbot offline to add the mpex tickers.
kakobreklaa: not a valid ticker i guess
kakobreklaa: i know whats the problem
Diablo-D3: so I can put the mpex one on ignore
usagi: Well the idea I have so far is to mark each private key (and address) with a locked flag, as I stated, then freeze spending in CWallet::AvailableCoins() for example. Then a second feature would be to encrypt individual keys.
usagi: I need an edge
usagi: For 200 though I don't want it in main for at least 1 year :p
usagi: Then I need to make that variable persist and I'm already lost
usagi: So theoretically if I put a bool locked in, say, CWalletKey (?).... and then.... um
usagi: I'm looking at CWallet::AvailableCoins() for example, which is a good place to prevent coins from being spent, if you can connect a tx to an address/privkey
EskimoBob: usagi: I can do it in one but no guarantees. I have never programmed :)
usagi: I need to be able to encrypt private keys on a key by key basis
Diablo-D3: but goddamned do I suck at papercraft =/
Diablo-D3: actually, I think I saw a papercraft one
usagi: I'm looking at the code and I feel so depressed im never going to figure this out
EskimoBob: i did that to several white boards just for fun
EskimoBob: usagi: I can modify it for you if you want. Fork over the coin and I'll make sure it's modified
kakobreklaa: >>As far as I can tell Alberto can fix the current issues; and even if Bitdaytrade ends up a dead end (merely the bad press from this controversy could harm its growth), he can still fulfill the bond contract.
EskimoBob: all 3 of them are in china I think
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: I hope not too many :) this is a risky one and chinese are involved so this can be just another scam
EskimoBob: damn, I wanted to buy this ASICMINER but I had to travel and lost out on IPO
mircea_popescu: i'm not a lawyer but i'm sure it should be ok.
mircea_popescu: but then there were implementation issues so i just raped her isntead.
mircea_popescu: and i originally was gonna ask for sex
mircea_popescu: i met this girl
kakobreklaa: well i warned about this long time ago
kakobreklaa: >>Alberto says that it was originally bcrypt but there were implementation issues so he temporarily switched to MD5. As mentioned I'm not a security expert so I can't assess how plausible this is. I'll wait for Alberto to make a clarification of this and other issues.
mircea_popescu: can i has ticker nao ?
Chaaaang-Noi: i forget what is bdt ?
Azelphur: I'd prefer not to spend ages setting it up, only to have to return it
Azelphur: + I sold my old phone to my brother and he's waiting for it
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: because I either wanna use it, or buy another phone.
mircea_popescu: and in any case i don't see anyone sueing for conversion of a damaged phone.
Azelphur: I mean it's only been like a day since I messaged him
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: so, I got this phone off ebay, "perfect condition" "new", when it got here it was obviously used, lots of damage, parts missing, etc. After a complaint the seller gave me a refund. I asked him to pay shipping to return the phone, but never heard from him since. How long until the phone is mine?
Chaaaang-Noi: the only thing i need it for is to auto sum, where is that lol
Chaaaang-Noi: move right down right after i sell lol
Chaaaang-Noi: i thought they killed that
Chaaaang-Noi: also sadly i dont really support the intersango guys right now cuz of how many times the feed me bs about bitcoinica
Chaaaang-Noi: i have to get back to thailand
Chaaaang-Noi: im into btc cuz i can convert it into gold and fiat and then give it to females... works much better:)
DeaDTerra: GirlsgoneBitcoins are just girls that make money from sad bitcoineers. They don't give a shit about Bitcoins, I doubt they will care to go to London for a bitcoin conference.
area: I cashed out some coins with them yesterday, and it all went smoothly, but I will admit am consciously doing it a bit at a time, rather than all in one go.
DeaDTerra: sigh xD oh well, I am going there for the people not for the speeches anyways.
mircea_popescu: from what i gather it's unavoidable.
DeaDTerra: I just want to have a good time and support Bitcoins, I really hope that the whole even doesn't become a Bitcoinica/Intersango whine feast, with tons of angry bitcoineers :(
mircea_popescu: i'm not.
Chaaaang-Noi: even if i pay double in usd i still get 2 times as much
Chaaaang-Noi: thats what i did, why buy when btc is at $5 for asic, wait until its $25 in nov then buy lol
blazing: i wonder if it will go up again
Chaaaang-Noi: yeah about assange i loled hard
DeaDTerra: anyone want to buy asicminer shares? ^^ I am also selling some other assets, have a look at my portfolio and see if there's anything you want :) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq6Ug2ODt-l2dC13WldWaTBWQVNYZWRwVDgtQmhzUkE#gid=0
mircea_popescu: i still haven't fully grasped what the story with dmc is
farfi: somebody said the same to me when i bought @ 0.03 :)
smickles: < DeaDTerra> first of I need a account on MPOE right? <<< or a broker
rg: i bet he does
usagi: Well, that ties in with tiered accounts which I mentioned to you already Nefario
rg: i just voiced mine
nefario: I told him to voice his converns on the forums
usagi: nefario knows what I want.
usagi: I said my peace
usagi: And "from this day forth" I believe, I really do believe
rg: and i were them
rg: if i were a scammer
rg: i agree with you
rg: do you think its fair to scrutinize other people like that .. i mean.. the #2 highest volume asset on glbse has NOTHING verified
rg: i dunno usagi
usagi: I feel this is important.
rg: i told i told you guys to buy s.bvps...
mircea_popescu: i see bdt is doing well.
DeaDTerra: and it seems quite complex, but it's probably something I will end up investing in as I need to be able to long, as the increase in price is having a huge effect on GBF
DeaDTerra: I just feel like this is something I should research as I need to know what I am getting into