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knotwork: opentxs command also goes into OT shell type mode if not told a command to run
mircea_popescu: knotwork this'd be a test thing
mircea_popescu: knotwork i don't want to build the server tho, just a client
knotwork: or probably use a pre-build Moneychanger jar
mircea_popescu: da2ce773 what'd be a reasonable server to run it on ? do you have it on a vps atm ?
da2ce773: hmm... it isn't a just a clean 'deploy and everything will work forever stage'.. there will be bugs, and it will need maintance/FellowTraveler/I will have to develop patches for your issues.
knotwork: with a client (or using ot script language). what operating system do you use?
mircea_popescu: yes Ignatius-otc, you might also want to give a look at
Ignatius-otc: mircea_popescu, is this accurate: http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#13 ? the bit about affiliates and a 5 btc rebate?
mircea_popescu: da2ce773 wouldja say it actually is at a point where it can be deployed ?
da2ce773: midnightmagic: knotwork has been running a server for ages now :)
mircea_popescu: i was talking with da2ce773 a while bakc about getting a test server oince the thing is production ready
PsychoticBoy: almost the same, btc gone in a scam of awful management results in the same: no btc
Obsi: is there a reason OT couldn't be made decentralized and fully P2P? Maybe using the blockchain to agree on things
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy very hard life for a fund man.
mircea_popescu: Obsi ty, but it doesn't seem like anyone has a choice. glbse is going away. now's everyone's change to learn gpg.
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 53 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <usagi> Patrick's fund has nothing to do with NYAN.A tho.
mircea_popescu: Obsi just a little imploding
Obsi: usagi did a runner?
dub: pretty sure I was the first person to call usagi a scammer
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: it is to get a final decision
mircea_popescu: a, good for them then
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: not even, a simple letter is enough, which describes the facts
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I pressed charges when he didn't answer by PM nor reimburse me (it's free to start criminal charges here, no need for a lawyer)
Bugpowder: I only played in one tourney. Won a 29 seater, made $1000 at Red Rocks. Quit while ahead
mircea_popescu: Cylta yea, i think you pretty much got it. bonds get x% first, then shareholders. if theres a loss bonds pay.
mircea_popescu: Cylta a, but it's built like this for a reason.
Bugpowder: Wait -- what? What's Icehill? Please pardon us for having to make so many early announcements. Icehill is the name for what will be a publicly registered company in Iceland. Icehill handles all the implementations of software designed by RingCoin (Kronos, Hermes, ZipConf, and other projects in queue). It is not registered right now. The project leader is heading to Iceland shortly to talk to a lawyer working for Iceland's do
OneEyed: If an asset defaults, less dividends. If a loan defaults, less liquidity
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: a defaulting loan doesn't affect the existing number of shares of GLBSE assets, only the net value of the fund
Cylta: Mircea, I think you should make everything a bit simpler with your bonds and stocks...
PsychoticBoy: We re going to put up a motion tpo buy BTCFPGA asic miners
mircea_popescu: a weekly it's pretty good yes.
PsychoticBoy: better than most funds like DMC ( not a mining company more a fund) BMF, M.ETF etc
PsychoticBoy: not bad for a fund
PsychoticBoy: I paid 0.00155 a share
Bugpowder: in a liquid market where people are paying attention
Bugpowder: in a liquid market at least
mircea_popescu: i can kinda spot a clerk pretending he's a banker and an apprentice pretending he;s a mage.
Bugpowder: Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?
mircea_popescu: this guy's such a nitwit ffs.
Bugpowder: "If you are coming for a visit, I would like at least a voice message a day or two prior. Harm toward family's off-limits, and I would physically object to bodily harm which may result in my stay in a hospital, as that'd further impede repayment. I am armed, so please keep ideas of physical violence in check."
OneEyed: (even if I think he should better borrow to buy his own debt at a discount, since people will panic sell)
kakobrekla: no i think its not a month yet
mircea_popescu: not even a month yet or is it ?
kakobrekla: no, i will open the page for public tomorrow but btctalk annoucment will wait a few more days
Ignatius-otc: kakobrekla, have you posted a thread to btctalk yet about the new service?
kakobrekla: I think its just a bubble.
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13467854193.jpg have a girl.
mircea_popescu: he should have the sense to write a pretty decent business proposal
Ignatius-otc: mircea_popescu, have you created a glbse short asset yet
mircea_popescu: me too, especially if he has the sense to manage a 1mn dollar hydroponics farm
Ignatius-otc: yes but if I go to get a loan I need to provide something showing why I need the amount I claim to need
mircea_popescu: even if it's just a guy-and-his-gf type of op
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-bot still, if you started a largeish farm i could see 1mn sunk into it
Ignatius-otc: I recall seeing many of his posts throughout btctalk. Even still it doesn't come across to me as an honest business proposal. Large startup costs with little info. Of course, it's only a matter of time before growing and distribution are legalized
Bugpowder: omg what idiot just sold NYAN.A for 0.9
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
dub: Whether or not I ultimately develop a bitcoin bank-like marijuana commercial loan lending service
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745
mircea_popescu: Cylta there's a bond system, let me find you the link
mircea_popescu: We are seeking a total of $1.5 million dollars over the next three years with an initial need for $350,000
PsychoticBoy: so ~1 btc a gram
PsychoticBoy: 6-12eur a gram
OneEyed: I don't know what the new law (I don't even know if it's a law in fact) covers
mircea_popescu: i can't travel on a week's notice ffs
kakobrekla: where bitstamp will buy me a coke.
kakobrekla: theres a small bitcoin conference in slovenia next week
mircea_popescu: its a nice town, it's cheap and warm.
kakobrekla: we should have a meet there
PsychoticBoy: I can buy legally here in a coffeeshop
PsychoticBoy: sure, whats your address? 10$ a gram, ok?
PsychoticBoy: wow I will set up a growing plan for my weed stock, I ll grow and sell and give shareholders a piece of the profit
Bugpowder: well, this a market of imperfect investors and information.
PsychoticBoy: I live in the Netherlands so I could make a pot company ( LEGALLY)
pigeons: well i don't have any, i bought some a few days ago for the dividends but had to sell them because they are going for twice what i paid for them
Diablo-D3: after doing like a ton of coke
Diablo-D3: woah he could have turned into a being of pure energy
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: yeah, but some of them had a chance to make a profit before. I think vescudero was just entering the btc game, so no profit to reinvest there.
mircea_popescu: he's not the only one paying out of pocket actually. there's abour a dozen people, so is/was goat
PsychoticBoy: I had some btc with vescudero but withdrawed a few months ago
OneEyed: I wonder how much vescudero payed out of his own pocket to be able to pay all his investors back, and right in time. This was a tremendous service, but I bet this has been an awful loss for him.
PsychoticBoy: thats indeed a lot, selling them at a loss atm
Guest71873: a man who forgot to identify in time
mircea_popescu: OneEyed he'd have to buy a mpex acct if he got 10k btc i guess.
PsychoticBoy: learn from failures makes new companies a succes
PsychoticBoy: I am paying div in a couple a minutes, spreadsheet will be adapted first thing in the morning
OneEyed: And you seem to do a pretty fucking job. Nice returns + nice reporting
mircea_popescu: in general using something is a good ideea.
mircea_popescu: jurov i knew a guy named Sockpill
jurov: should i ever have a company profile with photos,
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin-Central is a service operated by the French company Paymium.
OneEyed: They have a French bank account, much better than the usual Polish one for other exchanges
OneEyed: bitcoin-central.net has such a low liquidity… all trades for 2 days have been mine, that will total 20 BTC…
Bastone: I'm not a noob.
mircea_popescu: now seriously... why are you such a noob ?
mircea_popescu: she's just a chick with generous cleavage that works forum pr for me.
PsychoticBoy: i got a sock puppet, lots of them, I got the whole muppetshow
grubles: 5. you are a sock puppet
grubles: by posting on the forums you are either: 1. a ponzi. 2. trolling 3. scammer