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imsaguy2: I thought goat was married and had
a kid?
jcpham: i got some last night like
a boss
MrTiggr: takes me about 45 mins to build
a new on
OneEyed: "If implemented, I would not allow investors to cherry-pick assets from the fund but would instead send them
a fair mix of around 5 assets, fairly weighted considering the NAV of NYAN.B and the valuation of the securities which the investors have chosen in motion 155."
MrTiggr: thats
a graph of the otc Web Of Trust ratings system
MrTiggr: notice ive added
a "scrfeenshot" button Smoovious
MrTiggr: i like to watch the little dots fire out to
a satoshifish as they are spent on 1dice*
gribble: Error: "bc,goatbanestimate" is not
a valid command.
Chaang-Noi: i gave 50 btc to the forum as
a donoation
MrTiggr: go roll
a spliff and go watch the blockchain spend for
a while at ISeeCoins.org
Chaang-Noi: i know
a lot of people do not like me, and many more even hate me, but really if you cant understand how
a mining bond works, this is not the palce for you.
Chaang-Noi: you cant even understand how
a mining bond works...
Chaang-Noi: smoovious... no one cares what you think... you are
a retard for not understandig what
a bond is
Chaang-Noi: and them maged covered for nefario saying it was
a misunderstanding
Chaang-Noi: 1) Publicly lying about having sent Nefario
a Bitcoin address. This will be considered libel and ALL posts, made by anybody, referencing this specific lie will be DELETED to protect the forum from legal action.
Chaang-Noi: Failure to do so will result in you being marked as
a scammer and possibly even banned for the following reasons:
Chaang-Noi: Within the next 48 hours, please CC Maged@lordaeron.org and theymos@mm.st in an email to Nefario that contains the Bitcoin address you want him to send to. GPG sign it if you have
a recognized GPG key.
imsaguy2: there's
a very rudimentary definition
rdponticelli: If you're putting them somewhere, anywhere, you're risking, and in
a way you're shorting
imsaguy2: if/when there's
a time it comes crashing down again (ala last June), they'll be glad its there
imsaguy2: its essentially
a diversification
imsaguy2: <rdponticelli> If you buy equipment.. but you may lost profitability in pure BTC << True, but you're also diversifying
a bit so taht if the exchange rate starts going down, you'll still have
a net gain in USD because of the mining income
DeaDTerra: I am not leaving, just stepping down for
a while ^^ I need to finish school and I need to see how the market develops. I will keep running my own projects behind the scene ;) so don't worry about me
Chaang-Noi: deadt was about the oly guy i trusted with my btc for
a while
DeaDTerra: not paying makes you
a scammer. But I mean GIGAVPS could just say fuck it I am not paying even though he has hardware, so hardware does not mean securer or better backing.
OneEyed: People should learn to do some basic mathematical infinite sums or integration before investing in such
a "perpetual" bond
DeaDTerra: Instead of backing the bonds with hardware you are backing it with private capital that doesn't make you
a scammer.
Chaang-Noi: DeaDTerra you just called me
a scammer?
OneEyed: rdponticelli: usagi is the only one converting to FIAT when it's time to compute
a profit/loss :)
OneEyed: rdponticelli is the only one converting to FIAT when it's time to compute
a profit/loss :)
DeaDTerra: The idea is if he doesn't invest into mining then he might not be able to pay it back hence he's
a scamer.
rdponticelli: Funnier thing is that I bet most people even made
a profit if you count it in fiat
OneEyed: I don't think why Chaang-Noi would be labelled
a scammer for not investing into mining equipment. I've just posted in the thread asking how it would make
a difference.
DeaDTerra: But they will probably get me
a scam tag some how anyways.
imsaguy2: and if you pay everyone back, by definition, that isn't
a ponzi
DeaDTerra: You are
a scammer, why? because you can't prove that you aren't. Well I haven't scammed anyone yet? doesn't matter you can't prove that you won't
DeaDTerra: oki, I have yet to get any death threats so that's
a plus. I have had some angry people, but they were very civilized about their anger. I am impressed
imsaguy2: so basically, anyone doing any business, legit or not, can be labelled
a scammer
Chaang-Noi: saying nefario delisted cuz i did not mine when i had
a mining bond!
Chaang-Noi: the reatrds took the lack of understanding
a mining bond to the delisting
femtotube: ok, one dead cat did
a tiny bounce :)
Chaang-Noi: i have
a phone,. but i only use it as
a portable internet connection
rg: why not sell now for
a healthy profit
Chaang-Noi: I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this was just
a bad decision on your part. But several people have already told me privately that they believe you are conspiring with Nefario to appear to pressure him into an agreement that we all know Goat won't accept to shift the blame to Goat. I hope that's not true and that this was just an honest lapse in judgment.
dub: 'I will give you the benefit of the doubt but you are either an idiot or
a scammer'
pigeons: HRPT does not fit the risk profile for me for .
A i would rather they were sold and the btc held until appropriate assets could be found
pigeons: are the holdings of .
A public?
pigeons: i'm not
a shareholder anymore, i sold the moment i saw you buy "High risk passthrough" shares for
a "low risk insured investments only" fund
pigeons: ok well i prefered ".
A won't default cause you can use .B to cover" over "trust me"
pigeons: it does not explain why you can buy .b without moving that to .
A or buying back .
A pigeons: no you do not do what you say, you say you will back .
A with .B, except when you change your mind
Chaaang-Noi: usagi pigeons has
a good point, if this blows up in yourface you will be accused of fraud
assbot: [GLBSE:NYAN.
A] [Bid: 0.8104] [Ask: 0.98] [Spread: 0.1696] [Last: 0.99] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.98559992]
pigeons: so what if something on NYAN.
A goes bad?
pigeons: ok, sounds like .
A is
a worse deal than it was earlier for sure now
pigeons: but .
A was collateralized by .B and now is "trust me"
pigeons: yes but how is that not screwing over .
A?
pigeons: but you need to close .
A first
Bugpowder: time to make
a bets of bitcoin bet
pigeons: well just because the other funds you ran went out of business doesn't mean i don't trust you that NYAN.
A is in zero danger, but the agreement was that NYAN.B could be sold and given to .
A investors to ensure that?
pigeons: you will sign something with the key to an address that holds enough collateral to repay NYAN.
A?
pigeons: usagi: so you are getting rid of the collateral for NYAN.
A?
Bugpowder: My concern with NYAN.
A is sufficient that I sold out of B.MPCP.B at 5% below par today
pigeons: so NYAB.B is not collateral for NYAN.
A?
Bugpowder: usagi, what happens to NYAN.
A if its assets go bad and B has already been refunded
mircea_popescu: might as well find
a different mythological creature to be.
mircea_popescu: if
A doesn't get full capital back after he closes B he's getting -'d to hell.
pigeons: usagi did you ever explain what gives you the right to close .B before making sure everyone who trusted you with .
A gets their coins back?
Bugpowder: theymos is
a little late on the share sale
mircea_popescu: it is
a little complex for you tho as it will require custom coding
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi the solution is relatively easy for shareholders, they just import key to wallet and sign
a message with the new addy
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: maged is still thinking about giving nefario
a scammer tag and setup
a url filter to label all glbse links as scams
Chaang-Noi: tygrr-[ had
a value of like 40,000 btc
Chaang-Noi: is maged saying made
a new type of coin?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, how many actual shareholders do you expect ?
a hundred or so ?
Chaang-Noi: its silly i cant use option 1 or option 2 until i have
a new exchange
Chaang-Noi: what maged said about him being
a scammer?
kakobrekla: o, you can find
a cute ass or two there
mircea_popescu: but the entire thing is
a good exercise of "how would bitcoin look if nefario was satoshi"
mircea_popescu: this would be incidentally rebuilding mpex, but hey. for
a good cause...