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ascii_butugychag: (picture a
trb box eating blocks via diode, and shitting
tx out another diode, when
the knife switch is on, strictly)
mircea_popescu: phf it's so fucking random you'd have
to do 1000s of assays
phf: it seems like a cool profiling
target, how long it
takes
to eatblock entire chain across different ssds on some
test hardware
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it
takes ~10-20s on a reasonable box, for a full block
mircea_popescu: <ascii_butugychag>
the stock sync mechanism is batshit insane <<
this yes. but even if all
that were fixed, verification will still
take
time.
phf: but
the
thinking at
the
time was
that
trb peers shouldn't be cascade sending you bogus chains, when you don't ask for
them, and
that optimization should start with improvements
to block request/response mechanism
phf: i recall
that was first major
trb patch
PeterL: but could you connect
to a
trusted node
to get past
that?
PeterL: but I guess
that would open up a ddos attack vector?
PeterL: yeah, it seems like
there should be a way
to
tell it
to cache some blocks
to check later?
ascii_butugychag: and
transmission of blocks which can't possibly be absorbed at
time
t ascii_butugychag: and i measured what
takes up most of a sync
time - it isn't verification
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: actually it would be quite
trivial
to parallelize, i just haven't
the hands presently
mircea_popescu: the power rangers have esentially gone down
the path of "well... let's just not do checking", which is exactly in line with us fashions.
ascii_butugychag: PeterL: sign a copy of
the blockchain,
then push it
to new box...
mircea_popescu: in general,
the checking of blocks should be properly paralelized.
this is a complex
task, and will
take a while.
PeterL: has anybody had ideas for how
to make syncing go faster?
shinohai: Probably in
the upgrade plans for
this year
though.
shinohai: Almost @ 70% Just staryed
that one a few days ago.
ascii_butugychag: but i must point out
that a
trb node
that isn't synced should not be added
to connection lists
ascii_butugychag: ^ for educational reading, in case
this is not obvious, rather
than for battlefield
ascii_butugychag: and imho
this is not an entirely inconsequential
thing, and ought
to be remembered.
ascii_butugychag: but even now, folks who get
their sets from mod6's mirror, and folks who get
theirs from
the ml, are on divergent lightcones
ascii_butugychag: light cones will be relevant once we get autonomous bots scouring
the universe for v set components...
ascii_butugychag: anyway i can only suggest, if mod6 wants
to call his 'bzortl'
this is his
to make
mircea_popescu: well, what you get and what you start it. "what you press" -> press -> "what you pressed". ie,
the press.
ascii_butugychag: your lightcone is all of
the possible parts you have access
to, and know of, at all,
that you might build a set with
ascii_butugychag: your 'set' is specifically what you have in a particular v shot, usually
this includes your conscious choices for
that run
ascii_butugychag: i will half-seriously suggest
that we refer
to
the ~set of patches, seals, keys~
that a particular vtron is aware of at his particular point in spacetime, as... his lightcone
☟︎ mod6: im just gonna leave what i've got in
there. will replicate what alf's does.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 im not even sure we can depend on a notion of "time" for v purposes. << oh yeah 'the last
time' is probably a bad choice of words, "the last alteration" or some such.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 21:23:54; mircea_popescu:
then
the outline showed up. "the change will be introduced in phases. for
the first five years, only
trucks and vehicles over 5
tons will switch
to driving on right"
ascii_butugychag: also no prizes for
this guess, but 100% of
the 'power8' will be running poetteringola and drepperism
BingoBoingo: Poor 'lone
types' get
their own honeypots.
This is for rich and mortgaged 'lone
types'
ascii_butugychag: just
that it is unlikely
to end up on
the desks of
the poor 'lone
types' mircea_popescu discussed earlier
ascii_butugychag: i don't object
to
the price,
this is quite cheap for a proper computer
BingoBoingo: But 3k price
tag likely seems
to
target gullible potentially disloyal lizards.
The Clintons and Sean Bridges.
ascii_butugychag: this being said, if
the
thing consisted 100% of ~documented~ fpga fabric, i would buy it
ascii_butugychag: also
the nsa fund for
this must've been quite pitiful, one would at least suppose
they could have it secretly subsidized so it prices
to sell !
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: also gotta love how a single-source, 'monoculture' box built by ibm, as far from wot as can possibly be imagined, is now somehow an appealing
thing for 'phree' enthusiasts
mod6: ok, i'll leave origin in for
this second beta patch.
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: i specifically mean his 'follow my example, use
this here iron!!111' 'but no
there is no place for you
to get it, hahahaha'
mod6 is just pondering weather
the converse is useful. finding
the last
time
the file was changed from <given> hash
BingoBoingo: Yeah, and web browsing by wget
to his email inbox
mod6: this will give us when
the hash was introduced, not
the last
time it was changed.
mod6: and just
to verify, we *do* want
to be looking at
the post-patch hash value correct?
the 'b' as opposed
to
the 'a'.
BingoBoingo: In other news FSF certified
the
Talos Power8 workstation board. Looks like Stallman has a new computer.
☟︎ ascii_butugychag: (did i even have
the filename in
there? no matter,
this is what we want)
mod6: I've basically just added
the corresponding source file in
the data
there.
BingoBoingo: But yeah, seems
to support
the Gendarmie hypothesis
BingoBoingo: The proper approach
to sportsball hindbrains is considering
them as a sort of Nevada
test site, but for optimizing performance of doorkickers.
The
trend of
these hindbrains whooping
the police suggests
that
the "Black Lives Matter" business is internalizing with
the ordinance and
the
Trinity bomb is going feral.
BingoBoingo: Other more boring stories about
this species of hindbrain beating police in confrontations
this year are piling up, but
this is starting
to look like a
trend.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> su police, at least formally, were forbidden
to appear anywhere in public except as 2+ man group. <<
This is part of what interests me in
this case. 4 police officers met 4 hindbrains in mutual combat and lost resoundingly. If not for
the equal numbers would be far less interesting.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> idiot stotting bulls are a dime a dozen. <<
they're a dime a dozen exactly like how microscope is a dime a dozen in post-usg us.
ascii_butugychag: (apparently
they almost invariably even piss away 100% of
the serious money
that is paid
to
them)
ascii_butugychag: personally i find
the daily life, birth and death of
that meteorite linked earlier, more interesting
ascii_butugychag: i really do not grasp why BingoBoingo enthusiastically follows
the doings of walking hindbrains, but
that's his business
ascii_butugychag: (and likely also
the policeman, but
that is outside
the scope)
mats: ascii_butugychag: who is
the 'idiot bull', 'walking hindbrain'?
ascii_butugychag: su police, at least formally, were forbidden
to appear anywhere in public except as 2+ man group.
mircea_popescu: your odds
to manage
that with woman you just fucked without asking about 1000x your odds
to manage
that with policeman
that lost some
teeth.
mircea_popescu: extra lulz points if
the "rationale" is something along
the lines of "hey, we'll kiss and make up".