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Ukto: issue a sentance
Ukto: they determine that its illegal, and then youg et fucked, w/o a chacne to end it
knotwork: if you ask a lowyer if running a web based business at all is illegal they might well advise that if you have to ask, then maybe it is, and probe as to what exactly about what you plan to do is something you think might be illegal and why
Ukto: so a lawyer saying "you are at risk" woudl be enough to cause this
smickles: gp5st: well, on a 1 year time frame, i should hope you get 5%. but anything better than a 10% loss is good
Ukto: if you ask a lawyer "is using bitcoins online illegal" they will advise you aginst it, and that it may be illegal, and land you in jail
gp5st: smickles: i would probably keep it up for a while. It'll hopefully still be up in a year
Ukto: DeaDTerra: no lawyer would tell you that a bitcoin X is illegal. they woudl advise aginst it, and tell you that your asking for trouble.
gp5st: smickles: in your experience what would be a "successful" weekly ROI? 0.1%?
knotwork: it also would not "make" money so its purpose would be its who you give your investment budget to, it spends that budget only if doing so results in it got a lower average price for what it bought
Doffx: He doesn’t give a flying fuck about the btc community right now I'm sure
Doffx: Unless a lawyer is saying dont say a word or something
Doffx: How is he backed in to a corner?
knotwork: a defnsive strategy basically, not aggreessive at all
Ukto: and be less of a target
knotwork: so it would get to buy little bits at a time as price falls
knotwork: obviously not a really active strategy and likely to buy too soon when price falls so maybe not very good
knotwork: gp5st an interesting strategy I would like to have bot try would be keep an average price a given thing has cost so far per unit for what it has of it so far, and buy any it can afford that are cheaper
smickles: gp5st: mostly i was reading various financial articles, academic stuff which I found in a university library
Ukto: a week
Ukto: DeaDTerra: can you blame teh community for treating someone who is acting like a sscammer, as a scammer?
Ukto: if he had even spent 5 minutes writing a paragraph on glbse
Ukto: now its making him into more of a criminal
kakobrekla: he is a criminal now
Ukto: and said "hey guys, i am shutting down for legal reasons. and working on a plan"
smickles: gp5st: because java ate memory like nothing else, and the mechanize library in python made things a lot easier, i think ruby has mechanize too
gp5st: smickles: i thought it would be a fun exercise and an opportunity to learn more about trading in general
gp5st: smickles: there are a bunch out there, I kind of wanted to do it as an exercise. I was thinking ruby to start
gp5st: anyone here interested in helping write a trading bot? I have a vague idea of financial strategies and am a decent programmer, so I would mainly be looking for someone to advise on financial strategy. Or be able to point me to more information?
gribble: You rated user nefario on Fri Oct 5 17:57:26 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: seems to have broken contracts and screwed over many people for his own ass.
rdponticelli: In a couple of days more, he's getting the -10 if he doesn't show good faith
rdponticelli: Now it's a -5
rdponticelli: I rated him -1 a couple of days ago
Ukto: w/o a scammer tag
rdponticelli: But if he really is a fucking, evil scammer, he can do a lot with id
Ukto: even if he was given a cease and desist
Ukto: if he is having an internal battle over legalities of giving ppl their stuff w/o id, thats a problem he has to bite the bullet on, and move forward doing, because chose to not require id in the first place
Ukto: i only suggest the asset as a partial solution
Doffx: The assets are just a note of transaction really, the btc being held up is unacceptable.
Doffx: That's what makes him a scammer
Ukto: i think he realised his delima with this, and thats why he put a hold on accepting id's
Ukto: DeaDTerra: did he mention why he wants aml now? after saying it would not be needed a few weeks ago? and waht he will do with the unclaimed assets/btc held?
Chaang-Noi: takes me a while to catch on why...
Chaang-Noi: well... read what joel says about it, anyone with a valid code can just call the aset issuer a scammer
Chaang-Noi: neferio is just being a cock
Ukto: a system wont work if nefario wont give out everyones assets
Chaang-Noi: ukto a code system wont work
jcpham: i'll start a smear campaign about something
Ukto: he needs to just reenable the site, let ppl 'transfer shares' w/o penalty and a note to distinguish themselves to the issuers
Ukto: what stops nefario from using ppl 'codes' and anon-claiming to be a share holder to an issuer
DeaDTerra: We had a good laugh about all the paranoid people on the forums :P
DeaDTerra: I just finished off a talk with James :)
mircea_popescu: this is unfair. how's the guy to find a hot chick now ?
EskimoBob: "I would consider meeting this criteria if nefario were to provide me with a HD photo of his passport, drivers licence, 2 utility bills and a picture of him holding a note saying "you must be fucking joking" and a hot chick doing "bunny ears" on him." - LOL :)
mircea_popescu: course, also had a huge debtload they were paying off.
jcpham: $200 is a couple hours work
jcpham: you know if someone were to partner with me with a decent idea
Ukto: cause he couldnt wait for a gox xfer
Ukto: lets be honest its one of wo possibilities, A. either further scammation, and attempt to conceal embezzled funds. B. Epic stupidity. At this point, I put neither past him.
JWU_42: teust i will never get a response
JWU_42: I sent James a note asking why he needs my dox when he has them already (I verified before)
mircea_popescu: mixed with a good scraping off the bottom of the barrel.
mircea_popescu: therefore we consider we have been served a restraining order by the algerian president and will not be processing anything
mircea_popescu: pigeons : today when we were at the mcdonalds the waitress looked at us a certain way and on the napkins was certain scribbled something from the prevbious patron who was this suspicious guy
pigeons: ok then, sorry, we have been served a restraining order and are unable to process
rdponticelli: Or a lot of others thing, just fill the gap
mircea_popescu: you need a new thread, and an actual ideea for people to gather round.
Ukto: "You said just a few weeks ago, the advantage of GBLSE is no AML requirements" *link to youtube*
mircea_popescu: which seems like... i dunno, a sort of win.
mircea_popescu: if enough people sign... this won't go anywere in a DIFFERENT WAY from the way nefario was going to have it nowhere
mircea_popescu: B0g4r7 start a forum thread
Ukto: he's gonna make out like a bandit heh
B0g4r7: I ain't giving Nefario so much as a pic of my big middle finger.
Ukto: no writing "/b" on your hand in a photo?
smickles: specifically a 'clear' photo
smickles: a photo of yourself with a paper signed "glbse" and your username
smickles: pigeons: also a photo of a document proving address
dub: it sounds like like like like like like like like like a like lie
Ukto: sounds like a lie
dub: theymos, phantom, gengix, nefario.. its a scammers anal chain
mircea_popescu: they're a little group, that london failference was pretty much them and streetwalkers.
smickles: that's going to net them a fair amount of btc
dub: a notquitedeadmans switch
smickles: dub: ideally, yes. even taking a fee for services rendered would be better than this
dub: thats actually not a bad plan
kakobrekla: pirate is a poor scammer
dub: I live under a bridge
noagendamarket: I have a PO box lol
noagendamarket: Im a ghost :P
Diablo-D3: saves a fuckton on uselessly tiny images
noagendamarket: QNQzCQTJ/Zy6QDEzSg28KZgvFuEmNIXkah2rjwEBzP7Q0IHUH8KqHXxc1F+TH00oxtf1M4YuSfGnM+73pY3z3jZHWxzmC5VZAnlqB8adMNsEGRmIgnp/mpLm7X7/wAq+Z0+PLCevRa/FR7suTHKNaq/I5hc28XlgPqrAEEqRmJ5QMsmW1jsKr43EXltrefLF0mAJLazqVC6CPvFdUTdqf2/kKk/0wPf+X+a+h38y4x/UeTt4fM/kcn2nthrRW1AJWGaASMzCYmOggHSmvdW3cuA4hyoZ5y5oERpyIkU0jdsSfEfs/zUq7rfvfL/A
Diablo-D3: [10:21:52] <[\\\]> he can have a copy of my sensitive documents just as soon as I get a copy of his surety bond
[\\\]: he can have a copy of my sensitive documents just as soon as I get a copy of his surety bond
mircea_popescu: actually, chop a few wh8ile you're at it.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: does make me wonder if I photoshopped a passport if it'd work
thestringpuller: a month for short selling
mircea_popescu: we should have like a photochop contest
[\\\]: and let's face it, a picture of 'me' holding my name/date on a piece of paper could be photoshopped
[\\\]: he could get a government id in my name
[\\\]: he's asking for the same info that I'd be required to present to get a replacement state id